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08-14-2003, 11:59 AM
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View Full Version : Eminem - The Sauce (Benzino Diss) Top $hotter 08-14-2003, 11:59 AM Ne 1 Heard Diz Diss 2 Benzino I Finkz Itz Da Reply 2 Benzino - Die Another Day Itz Heavi Truzz Replyz SaFe 1 Vigor-C 08-14-2003, 12:46 PM Never heard it but i like Nail in the coffin(benzino diss) Its a little slow but its funny Top $hotter 08-14-2003, 12:52 PM y3h dazZ heavi still but da sauce killZ nail in da coffin truzz try n look it up on kaZaA SaFe 1 ~Eclipse~ 08-14-2003, 01:14 PM your hard to understand boi! Top $hotter 08-14-2003, 01:28 PM Iz it @ #1 killah babe Where Chu From ~Eclipse~ 08-14-2003, 01:47 PM are you askn where im from? Karnage 08-14-2003, 03:12 PM The Sauce is in the top 5 of Eminem's best diss songs, it's like "Rabbit Run" from the 8 Mile Soundtrack, just over 3 mintues of just rapping, no chorus, just rapping and rhyming. He goes from talking about the early days of rap and how the Source was religious, then to the current corruption of the Source and then he demolishes Benzino(And does so through out the song) It's ill..if u haven't heard it, download it, get a mixtape or whatever just here classic Eminem. shadyslady 08-15-2003, 07:05 AM heavy!i wanna hear that shit! does any1 no if they sell mixtapes from the US in the UK and where do ya get 'em? ThizZuG 08-15-2003, 11:59 AM i got it ... its ok eminem is annoying F02936GF12 08-15-2003, 02:43 PM ^^YOU SUMAMABITCH!!!!! YOU GO 2 HELL, Y-YOU GO 2 HELL AND YOU DIE!!!! R*O*Y*C*E 08-16-2003, 03:28 AM yeah the songs pretty coo..relax X..why he a SUMAMABITCH? LOL mc_chaos 08-16-2003, 08:57 AM ^it was a joke,dam dont yall watch southpark? stans uncle "How can he make her pregnant?Hes gay." teacher sumtin erwratha "You go to hell.You go to hell and you die." its his like signature word (feels like breaking down south park) u see everyone has signature stuff and heres how it goes Cartmen:"screw u guys im goin home" Kenny:"mumble mumble"*dies* Stan:"o my god he killed kenny" Kyle:"u bastards!!" chef:"cmon now children" Mr.Maque:"mmmmmmkkkk???" are so this ends are first session of south park,to ne 1 who read this i can gladly say u are as dum as u look shadyslady 08-17-2003, 05:24 PM em aint annoyin!!who sed that,cant remember.... RedScare 08-17-2003, 08:48 PM Tight diss track - I dont know why yall talkin about it now though. Old as hell - from last year. dilema420 08-19-2003, 11:16 AM yea i know the song is from awhile ago. but the sauce is ill. nail in the coffin is sick to. he got some other ones like quitter about everlast. that songs good. MEimjustME 08-23-2003, 03:49 PM nail in the coffin FUCKS benzinos day up RITAX 08-28-2003, 06:20 AM It fucks Benzino but its old-self-dramas Eminem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you observe that it doesn't make any refference to the basic arguments of Source's attack ............ to the impact of his whiteness on rap, the only thing he charges Benzino is that he's a pink Boston sissy attacking behind his desk , no word for the phoneyness of Benzino (and his) to judge what is beneficial for rap when both are white !!!!!!!!!!!! RedScare 08-31-2003, 07:34 PM Benzinos not techinically white. Hes part-white, part-black. Benzinos and the Source's position in all this, is that Eminem is the Elvis of hiphop. What they were sayin is that similiar to how Elvis stole Rock music from black culture, Eminem was stealing hiphop from black culture. Of course this was all bullshit and both Benzino and Source had other agendas than "saving" hiphop. Benzino was trying to spark his failed attempt at a career and The Source was tryin to save their asses from Benzinos dumbass move. I thought Em was smart in attackin their hidden agendas more than he was attackin their official agenda (their official agendas bein "saving" hiphop). Em brought up the race issue on Nail in a Coffin anyway. He says "oh ya thats right, youre half white!!!". Through this point and several other points on the track he sayin that Benzinos a lying hypocrit - cuz Benzino was sayin how this white rapper is ruining hiphop when he himself is part-white! shadyslady 09-04-2003, 02:05 PM redscare didnt elvis start of doin the blues?thats black music,not rock...i thought that was white music... also benzino tlks shit,u cant "steal" a genre of music!!so wot if sum1 white does black music or if sum1 black does white music??And eminems rite,hes got no rite 2 say thsi shit about em wen hes half white himself! RedScare 09-09-2003, 05:34 PM Elvis did rock. Thats why they call him "The King of Rock". The reason you believe Rock is derived from white culture is because of Elvis - not specifically Elvis but the record industry built around him that converted it from black culture to white culture using Elvis as the poster child. This is what Benzino and The Source tried to say about Eminem but as you figured out already, it was complete bullshit. Jhey {SP} 09-09-2003, 05:50 PM haha i am listenin 2 THe Sauce and i see this thread cudn't resist posting it koo' song espesh part about the AKs dir_t_rat 09-16-2003, 09:47 PM if you really ant the lyrics to that song either go to ohhla.com or my site which is somewhere around here...lol verbal assassin 09-18-2003, 09:39 AM why dont just post it here? RITAX 09-19-2003, 03:03 PM This site chronicles the whole story of the beef between these two and its much more than a conflict on how much % of white is either of them .........or Benzino needing publicity for his LP...more of businesssssssssss which needed a cultural debate covering....www.elektra.com./elektra/benzino/messages Unfortunatelly i don't know how to send links i keep failing to send this one ....so either check it on your own outside RWs or if you know you send it. Anyway its a very interesting story with many twists and many unknown disses.. RITAX 09-19-2003, 06:14 PM And Em's argument over the race card is as truth-avoiding as Benzino's ...... Based on the % of whiteness that Benzino has Eminem shouldn't even have mentioned that Benzino is half-white ( a new category ? half black half white or with stripes like a zebra-man?) since Eminem is total white and since Eminem is keep mentioning that rappers should be judged on their skills not their color. And what Benzino tried to do for reasons of self-promotion of course and not for saving hip hop was to point the different media treatment that multiethnic non-white rappers get when they rap for issues similar to Em's ... And this is at a great part true.....So the Elvis argument is not competely groundless, it is true that a large numbers of young people get to listen to rap because of the confessional rap manierism of Eminem or reapproached rap after him...I am one of them , before him rap seemed to me that it had exchausted itself and all the rap voices sounded the same , when Eminem appeared it was like he 'energized' rap...............But he was the first rapper who has given so many interviews about every aspect of his life and he has cultivated the identifications of people with him ..When black/latinos rappers rap for not having shoes to wear they are treated as low-will, parasitical society-failures and nobody credits them when Eminem rapped for his shoes' holles every media portaited him as self-determined , soul-paining genious ..... RITAX 09-30-2003, 08:15 PM who's got Crown's lyrics by ja? Karnage 09-30-2003, 11:03 PM RITAX..ur partly..as a matter a fact ur at the minimum of truth there. Eminem's not pulling the race card just to say "Benzino's" half-white..that's just Eminem(for one line I may add), reversing the script and flipping as Benzino's entire argument is on the basis of Eminem being the White Rapper who's Elvis-ing the rap game. Also Eminem isn't a genius..YET! Eminem is an incredible lyricist. And that Latino/Black thing is completely erroneous cause the majority of Nas' "Illmatic" and Jay-Z's "Reasonable Doubt" along with Wu-Tang's "Enter The 36 Chambers", B.I.G.'s "Ready To Die" and others are mainly about the poverty-stricken, lower-class life and if I'm not mistaken all of those albums are undisputed hip-hop classics. Eminem's been in the game for 5 years(well alot longer, but going by the time I started listening ot him)...and he's dropped a raunchy but lyrical debut album, a controversial and disputed classic second offering and a piece of sonic excellence in his 3rd album..Em is lyrically the illest rapper in the past 5 years... RITAX 10-01-2003, 07:04 AM by RITAX And what Benzino tried to do for reasons of self-promotion of course and not for saving hip hop was to point the different media treatment that multiethnic non-white rappers get when they rap for issues similar to Em's ... Plus, is not Eminem who acknowledges that he wouldn't be as popular as he is today had he been Black? Never said that Em is genious but that he is media-portaited as such and the Elvis-ing which Benz. reffered to is much more than Em being white, is a whole marketing process. Eminem hasnot become so popular because of his color per se but because of how he is marketed to a wide fan-bas. This was the bullet in Benzino fake-ass criticism which in my opinion is not totally groundless. shadyslady 10-01-2003, 03:42 PM eminem is a genius already,every1 nos that. RITAX 10-01-2003, 03:49 PM EMINEM IS ONE OF THE MOST INTELLIGENT RAPPERS IN THE GAME. PERIOD HE IS NOT A GENIOUS BY ANY MEANS HE IS GOD-IZED BY THE MUSIC INDUSTRY BECAUSE HE KEEPS IT STILL ALIVE ECONOMICALLY Karnage 10-01-2003, 10:48 PM Eminem isn't a Genius as of yet..isn't a GOD-like figure in the hip-hop game(like: Rakim, Notorious B.I.G., 2Pac), but he is by far the illest..and all the true Eminem and hip-hop fans know the whole WHITE thing is old. If Eminem's only reason of being this prominent in popular culture is cause of his culture he would've been tossed away with Vanillia Ice and 3rd Bass...but his lyrical content transcends his skin coloration. In my opinion..Em is famous because of his crude, brutally honest lyrics and his flow, production and controversy..the same things that made "Wu-Tang Clan", "2Pac" and "Jay-Z" at the level they're at. RITAX 10-02-2003, 07:54 AM Eminem ,i said, has earned for himself a status of god in the music industry not in the rap game. And the problematical aspect of the Elvis-ing is that it may be old among old-true listeners of hip hop but not among the mainstream audience which is the basic audience that blows up an artist and gets him wide coverage.For them it has not been even an issue of consideration because they only care about who is cool and they listen to rap to be cool among their peers and are willing to like anyone who is delivered on their music channels. Vanilla was never not tossed away by mainstream because this segment never gave a fuck about him being really good MC, the fact that he could rhythme and was ok-looking was enough for them to buy his records. It is this segment that paves the way on how the new rappers will be received by the next generation. I can ensure you and bet my ass on it that if Vanilla came back with more lady-loving songs in the mids of our woman-are-whores song era he would take over the charts by storm .The battle between Benzino and Em was on the impact of Em on the mainstream reception of rap not his certified talent as a rapper. This audience is difficult-to-penetrate and its becoming more difficult to by non-white multi-ethnic rappers, not of Em being white nor because other rappers are less talented than Eminem but because this audience becomes used slowly-slowly to particular ways of being marketed, thinking of rap music and rap artists and getting related to rap. You will tell me , how about 50 ? Just think about it, now all the artists come with stories of life-strunggle, selves transformed by their childrens' birth, showing around their kids ,anger with their mother and a flavor of 'controversial'forbidden-attitude topics like pimping and bitches' f#### all of them from his label. RedScare 10-05-2003, 11:11 PM I dont think Ems the dopest in the last 5 years but hes definately up there. shadyslady 10-09-2003, 03:09 PM eminem is a god figure in the rap game,but i do kinda no wot u mean.... Jhey {SP} 10-09-2003, 04:14 PM i wouldn't say he is a God Dre is a God not eminem tho he got along way 2 go 2 get there he is a prophet :p |