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Ancient
08-14-2003, 07:06 PM
This is something I posted on another site... Me and my fiance were up til fucking 5 am talking about how pac could be alive, or how he could be dead... We were more on the alive side.. But check it out, and give some feed back..Remember, i put this on another site first..
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Hello everyone...
Well, obviously I am new to this board. I've read a lot of the posts here, and the information around the site with my fiance not to long ago. Seeing a lot of this stuff is pretty interesting. The 7 Day Theory real? Or just coincidence? Let's be serious here for a second.. If the 7 Day Theory isn't true.. Then all of you who think it isn't, atleast have to admit it is one BIG ASS coincidence.. But you're probably to stubborn to admit that. Anyway, here is a little feedback from me:

First off, the autopsy pictures: I seen someone make a post saying how, you can only get an autopsy if the doctors do not know your cause of death. That is in fact true... Just only 97% though.. Doctors could have split Pac open just to check where the bullets hit him exactly. But to counter that thought, doctors could have also just used an X-Ray to see the bullets in his chest.. Now here is the weird part

Clue #1 " The Makaveli tatto ": Everyone here has basically seen tupacs autopsy picture. If you go to google, or even on this site, you can clearly see that Pac had a Makaveli tatto on the right side of his neck. Ironically, the tatto is replaced by a very thin necklace on pacs Autopsy picture. Now, my fiance and I both verified that all of Pacs jewelry was removed. There is even a picture somewhere of a cop holding the one of the chains he had on that night. Now think about it... Pac was in the hospital for 7 days people.. Within those 7 days, even IF the police didn't get his jewelry, don't you think the doctors would have taken it? So why the hell would the put the necklace back on him while they're cutting him open? Makes sense? no it doesn't... The Makaveli tatoo is no where to be found on that picture.

Clue #2 " The Bullet Wounds ": Ok, I have been to a lot of sites after I seen this one. In doing that, I have seen that some of the different sites, say different places where pac was shot, and how many times.. One site said he got hit DIRECTLY in the chest twice, once in the right hand(back of hand), and one in the pelvis... One said he was hit in the chest twice, one on his right hand (this time..the "finger", and one in the leg. Notice... On the autopsy pics, each place where it was stated pac was hit, was NOT visible.. The two "possible" bullet wounds in his chest were not visible because thats where the split him open. The one in his hand, and pevlis were cut out of the picture. Why would they only take a pic from the head to the mid waist? Now the twist with this is... How could pac have been shot DIRECTLY in his chest, if the shots came from the right SIDE of the car? The shooter would have had to be in front of the car, for pac to get hit directly into the chest. It was also said that pac tried to move to the back seat of the car.. Now think about it, on the passenger side of a car, there isn't enough space for a person to slide between the seat and the door. Do you really think Pac was that stupid to try that? instead of just turning the other way and going between the gap of the drivers seat and the passenger seat? C'mon now...

Clue # 3 " The Shots ": It was said that the shooter fired 12 shots.. Suge said himself that the shooter shot 5 times before pac was hit. So, if someone was shooting at you, and missed 5 times... Don't you think thats the signal to get the fuck out of there? Why did suge just sit there like an asshole? And if pac knew after the first 5 shots that someone was shooting at him, why would be literally TURN toward the shooter, to get shot in the chest? And out of 12 shots... How was Suge only "grazed" by "one" bullet? Bullshit... Even someone said it on this site, and I seen it a few other places.. There WERE holes in the drivers seat where Suge should have got hit...

Clue # 4 " The 7 Day Theory": Well, all of this is basically self explanatory.. Everyone knows about the 7's dealing with Pacs ressurection.. Speaking of this, I did review the song "Thug Luv" where is sounds as if Bizzy Bone is saying "He's alive", but, Bizzy bone is in fact saying "Cleveland" in a stutter type..

Clue # 5 " Suge Shot Me ": This is true... In the begining of the song "Bomb First", you can hear a light voice right before the sound of trains saying "suge shot me".. Ofcourse, this is not pacs voice.. Now think about it, there were people who knew who really killed pac. They ended up dead later on... Isn't it possible that one of those people knew they were going to die if they told? So they put the message on the song hoping someone would notice it? That seems logical to me.. Being as though the CD was dropped after Pac was killed.. And, could it have been Suge who shot pac in his chest directly? After all, he was close enough to do it...right? I am not placing blame on Suge, but he is just as guilty as everyone else..

clue # 6 " Suge Lies..." Now, on this site i read almost everything.. I specifically seen something on here and a few other places that Suge was asked if he knew who killed Pac, would he tell? and Suge replied "absolutley not".. Ok, who ever the idiot moderator who figured that was "gang related" thats bullshit... Because if it was, then why did Suge tell police that Orlando Anderson was the one who killed pac, if he wasn't going to tell? Hmmm? 've seen a lot of things, even on official sites saying that Suge said it was Anderson.. But he changed his story on the interview. Coincidence? Doubt it...

Clue # 7 " The Cremation": Definately bullshit... An autopsy and then be cremated within a 24 hour period, then hold a private funeral? C'mon on people wtf! Pac was a national icon for MANY people... Left eye, Aaliyah, and Biggie... Both had memorial funerals when they died. Pac was bigger than all 3 of them put together, yet he only gets a private funeral? Thats wack as shit... And put yourself in the position of Afeni Shakur. If you were a mom watching your son die, and the doctors are trying to keep him alive, would you just tell them to stop...? I understand seeing that, the pain can be unbearable.. But if its going to keep your son alive, live with it!! She just told them not to resusitate (how ever you spell it) Pac anymore, and she basically let him die. Bullshit...

Maybe it is coincidence... Maybe it is true. But I have my money on the fact that Tupac is still alive.. Besides the fact my friend told me she seen someone who looked exactly like him, indentical but without tattoos in the Bahamas... Even saying he had scars on his body as if some tattoos were removed. I didn't really believe her, but who knows... But the things my fiance and I came up with, aren't the everyday things you see about pac being alive. I am going to talk to a few of my connections, and see whats all this talk about a Deathrow and Murder Inc concert in september or september 13th.. If that concert is legit... I have a big feeling pac will be there. I'll stay posted.. Yall keep thinking.. ~1~

Ancient
08-16-2003, 12:50 AM
Man, I know the post is a bit long.. But yall should read it.. I want to know some opinions..

Tupac
08-16-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Ancient

First off, the autopsy pictures:

Clue #1 " The Makaveli tatto ":
See the diferences by yourself:

Autopsy Pic:
http://www.tupacnet.org/theories/autopsy.jpg

Makaveli Tatto before his death:
http://www.alleyezonme.com/tats/index2.phtml


And like u said how does the police takes all his jewelry and forgets his nacklace??? Impossible.


Clue #2 " The Bullet Wounds ":
Thats another stupid thing.... Why dont show the entire pic, with all the places were he was hit?? Stupid.... So yea I agree wit u on this 1....


Clue # 3 " The Shots ":
Again I agree.... why didnt Suge opened the door, like niggaz that get shot on drive-bys do, and hide there or just run?? And if they shot 12 times Suge would b hit just like Pac.... Peeps say that was cause he had conections wit the Crips.... Still....


Clue # 4 " The 7 Day Theory":
Nah I already heard that song a lot times and it really looks like Bizzy is saying he's alive.... Just a tought....


Clue # 5 " Suge Shot Me ":
This is true... In the begining of the song "Bomb First", you can hear a light voice right before the sound of trains saying "suge shot me".. Ofcourse, this is not pacs voice..
^^True....

Now yes he was close enough 2 him but he didnt shot him.... Even if he wanted 2 kill Pac he wasnt stupid enough 2 do it himself.... He would hire someone.... So he maybie hired tha guys in the corvette 2 shot Pac, but he didnt do it....

clue # 6 " Suge Lies..."
Nah he never told nothing about it.... He said he was telling nothing 2 the Police cause he wasnt paid 4 that..... He never told that Andersson killed Pac....

Clue # 7 " The Cremation":
There was going 2 b a funeral.... But it was all cancelled by Afeni Shakur (his mom) some hours before the supposed funeral....
Later Afeni told the press that she decided 2 make a private funeral only 4 family and close friends.... She told the press cremated and they burried the ashes on his backyard....
In the Dvd Thug Angel one of his bestfriends Chuck D from Digital Underground says that they trown the ashes on the ocean and pour out some liquor 4 him....

Hmmm.... Strange....

Another think.... Why a cremation when in a lot of his songs Pac says that when he dies he wants 2 b burried.....
Just look at the song "Bury me a G" in the chorus he says:
"And when I die bury me a G"


My opinion about it.... I really dunno if he's alive.....

Ancient
08-16-2003, 07:07 PM
Well, I did read some shit saying that Suge said it was Anderson... And in that Bone thugs song, Bizzy is saying cleveland.. I thought he was saying he's alive too, but you can ever look at the lyrics.. He says we runnin up in Cleveland and then it echoes a few times.

Tupac
08-16-2003, 07:15 PM
^^my bad then....

MEimjustME
08-21-2003, 05:42 PM
tha person saying "suge shot me" is Kadafi. Kadafi was the only person who witnessed the shooting and was the one person who was gonna cooperate with the po po and guess what....he was shot and killed. what a surprise.

R*O*Y*C*E
08-24-2003, 06:44 AM
i like ur theories^

.Inphinite.
08-25-2003, 04:30 PM
Props for taking the time out Ancient ... appreciated....

Dj Quik
08-25-2003, 06:08 PM
That wasnt 2pac's chain it was a incedent in the inglewood mall, in july 29 1996 a crip memeber stole the chain from this person. the victim was realeted to death row i think he was a saff memeber. You know that pic when the cop is holding the chain.

This what is to 2pac's death, orlando anderson that day stole the necklace from that staff member and in the lobby of the mgm pac saw him thier and said, "u from the south"[In case u dont the south is a memeber from the southside crips and deathrow had connetions to the bloods the crips rival gang] then pac he beat his ass then olando shot killed 2pac "RIP"

YO MOMMA-
08-26-2003, 05:32 AM
YEAH THATS A WHOLE SHIT LOAD OF TYPEING

ganji
09-01-2003, 03:49 AM
danm i could never type that much

GangstaChang
09-11-2003, 10:16 PM
^At least you can read it...props to ancient for doing all of that..the theories are so thought provoking...so awesome...

At this point...we can just count down the days and hours...down to like 2 days now...my god the anticipation has gripped me

NoHypeNeeded
09-12-2003, 01:38 AM
Tomorrow.. is the day.. The prodical son has returned...

GangstaChang
09-12-2003, 04:40 PM
hellz yea...this is fuckin awesome

Schillah
09-13-2003, 07:46 AM
lmao@you believers

Jhey {SP}
09-13-2003, 08:54 AM
tite ancient^

i like the one about the bullet wounds

shit gets me thinkin.........

ganji
09-13-2003, 01:22 PM
I DONT KNOW IF YOU SEAD THIS BUT I NOTICED THIS ON MY OWN I DID NOT READ IT I THOUGHT OF IT BUT THERE WAS 7 REMIXS TO THUGS MANSHION ANOTHER 7

mista
04-09-2004, 01:16 AM
is it just me or did i see a commercial for a new pac album on BET a few month;s ago with him doing the advertising in person, either amazing digitals or yeah u know

Death Bed
04-09-2004, 02:53 AM
^..dogg it's past time it's all a big fucking joke..pacs dead..he probably did this shit on purpose wit his lyrics and whatnot..and had enough money to pay people to make shit confusing and he had all this future shit planned such as the commerical for his remixes album..pz

FreeFlow
04-18-2004, 03:29 PM
Yeah great Marketting Stratergy...

J. Cyrus
03-03-2005, 02:45 PM
Uppin this cuz it's interesting...

HoBGoBLiN
03-03-2005, 05:44 PM
That is an interesting analysis of the situation.. There's so much controversy n so many theories around his death that it's hard to form an opinon though. I wouldn't say he was alive or dead though Id probably sway more to the dead side, I can't really see the benefit of faking his own death. Well I suppose by then he knew his life was in danger, but then he'd known that for a long time anyway. I dunno, good research though Ancient

The Spectrum
03-03-2005, 06:53 PM
the point is he wrote all that

and worse, some people read all that



and we're still left at exactly the same place where we started in regards to our knowledge of him being dead or not





why dont people just give up
70 more years and maybe then people will.........then again, maybe
there is crackheads that think elvis and hitler is still alive





ditto

Dirty Frank
03-03-2005, 11:12 PM
why dont people just give up
70 more years and maybe then people will.........then again, maybe
there is crackheads that think elvis and hitler is still alive

Holy shit Hitler & Elvis are dead???

I need to sit down... :eek:

The Spectrum
03-03-2005, 11:22 PM
nah bitch, you need to dance if you want them rep points

HoBGoBLiN
03-04-2005, 12:52 PM
To be fair to the guy, this post is from like 2 years ago.. Then again that was 7 years after his death. I agree that the subject of Pac is played out to the point of insanity, but while there is still no conclusive evidence to confirm any of the many theories, there's always gonna be interest.

And it was a worthwhile read, lotta good points but as you said, it didn't get us anywhere

DABLACKGOKU
03-04-2005, 11:38 PM
this is bullshit about 2PAC him being ALIVE OR DEAD its confusing all his new songs saying shit whats happenen today and whatnever its only is that hes a profit ALIVE

jackbibby
03-20-2005, 12:01 AM
The arguement of him doing it to sell records pisses me off.

Let me ask anyone who thinks that....

HOW THE FUCK WOULD HE KNOW HE WAS GOING TO DIE????

Look at the message in his last (?) album. Why would he put that there if he wasn't going to die? If he wanted it in his albums, why not put it in all?
Changing his name to Makaveli, why? Coincidence? Bullshit

By that definition he must of known he was going to die.

drugs
03-20-2005, 06:35 PM
All I got to say is my nigga ain"t dead and fuck b.i.g.

C~Money
03-20-2005, 06:40 PM
Damn This Is Interestin I Wish I Knew The Answers

Detroit101
03-22-2005, 11:21 PM
Give it a rest.

Funkadelic
03-23-2005, 12:07 AM
you and your bitch should get a life realy man hes dead and if hes alive what can you do about it. If hes dead let the man rest in peace hes probly in heaven and doesent even like more then half the music he put out and knows where he maked mistakes no offence but that fool said alot of stupid shit like how telling people life was hopeless and shit like that he gave us know hope we just related to it when I was younger i thought he was the truth but now I no better but I dont hate him and he has some good songs I just dissagree with some of his shit. But if hes still alive ohh well thats good for him he got some smarts faked his death to get away from the gangster life and start all over brand knew and now he probly has good views on life. Well I dont realy care if hes dead or alive but I will always rember what he did with music hes know MJ or Prince or EWF but he is something in your kids lil rap world.