come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

"His new identity was influenced by Marvel Comics supervillian Dr. Doom. He wears the mask while performing and isn't photographed without it."

Nah ive gathered that much, and understand his reasoning behind wearing it.... but come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Iunno, that wouldnt fly in kweenz. Unless a slug fucked your face up, and that mask was holding your jaw to your cheekbones. I just dont like those cries for attention. Cables and shiny watches are one thing, and hey ill even go as far as to accept spinning rims. But like, to look @ a comicbook and try to incorporate a costume that you like, into something like rap? How many copies of my shit would you buy, if I was on the cover dressed like a pokemon?

The mask is cool and creates an interesting character, in my opinion. Lmfao @ you comparing this to some Pokemon shit..

exactly "creating a character". I am the only one who thinks hip hop isnt the place for such cornball innovations? And as far as comparing his cartoon head grill to a little cartoon animal, wuts the difference? He stated in an interview that "the mask was part of this persona that hes trying to emulate.", homeboy had no real reason behind it. Now if the mask had a substantial representation (i.e. his frustration twards the penal system, or him having or wanting to hide behind a mask for reasons stemming from diversity) than id try to understand. But this dude just watched a cartoon, and said MOMMY MOMMY I WANT THAT! put the shit on and people actually like this?

Yo, if your into it than by all means, respect, i just think that hip-hop is jus a LIL more serious than to be mocked by someone bringing cartoons into the mix and "creating a character". Isnt "creating a character" a no no in rap? Havnt we hung past rappers out to dry for creating bullshit personalities?

MF Doom claims that the mask hides the metaphorical scars of his brother's death, and it creates a sense of uniqueness that sets him apart from other rappers. It also allows him to portray a more villainous side.

Nah ive gathered that much, and understand his reasoning behind wearing it....Then why ask?

Cables and shiny watches are one thing, and hey ill even go as far as to accept spinning rims.Yea, because that's what everyone else is using to show off... What's wrong with using a mask representing a well-known, powerful villain to differentiate himself from everyone else with "cables, shiny watches, and spinning rims?"

I just dont like those cries for attention.I'm not a big fan of your random cry for attention via posting stupid threads about your hate for uniqueness and/or comic book characters.

But like, to look @ a comicbook and try to incorporate a costume that you like, into something like rap?Wow, incorporating other aspects of life into something such as hip-hop? INCONCIEVABLE!

How many copies of my shit would you buy, if I was on the cover dressed like a pokemon?None, because I'm sure anything you release would be complete dogshit. And I fail to see how pokemon has anything to do with this. Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe your arguments are as flawed as your grasp on the English language.

exactly "creating a character". I am the only one who thinks hip hop isnt the place for such cornball innovations? And as far as comparing his cartoon head grill to a little cartoon animal, wuts the difference? He stated in an interview that "the mask was part of this persona that hes trying to emulate.", homeboy had no real reason behind it. Now if the mask had a substantial representation (i.e. his frustration twards the penal system, or him having or wanting to hide behind a mask for reasons stemming from diversity) than id try to understand. But this dude just watched a cartoon, and said MOMMY MOMMY I WANT THAT! put the shit on and people actually like this?

Yo, if your into it than by all means, respect, i just think that hip-hop is jus a LIL more serious than to be mocked by someone bringing cartoons into the mix and "creating a character". Isnt "creating a character" a no no in rap? Havnt we hung past rappers out to dry for creating bullshit personalities?

Well, the mask is used in the Gladiator movie as well, so you can't call it just a cartoon thing.

http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies/2000/images/gladiator_poster.jpg

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/667931_mfdoom_200x200.jpg

Anyway, I don't see a problem with this. I think it's cool that he has different personas.

^This coming from a guy who has a Super Hero as his User Icon.^

1. I wasnt questioning his reasoning, I was voicing my opinion.

2. People who have power in REAL LIFE wear chains and watches where i come from.

3. only one crying here is you baby boy.

4. If you find that COMIC BOOKS are an aspect of life, than you should have a convo with your parents about maybe being allowed to have friends or a later curfew or something to see what real life is.

5. No need to catch feelings over pokemon, im sure that that show is dear to your life and didnt mean to disrespect it, if thats how you took it.

GROWN FOLKS IS TALKIN BOY! Go play somewhere.

I feel you swords.

your a fag iroq
how bout that

y u say that Rezin?

exactly "creating a character". I am the only one who thinks hip hop isnt the place for such cornball innovations?
Apparently you are. Or just the only person who cared enough to start a thread about it.

And as far as comparing his cartoon head grill to a little cartoon animal, wuts the difference?Dr. Doom was an animal? Or if you're relating to pokemon again, the difference is that they are two completely different "cartoons," each with a different storyline and different characters involved. Just because two things are drawn and animated doesn't make them comparable.

He stated in an interview that "the mask was part of this persona that hes trying to emulate.", homeboy had no real reason behind it.And you're saying that he's emulating a persona for no reason at all? He has mentioned reasons, maybe not in that particular interview, but regardless, the fact that it set up a unique persona obviously gave you a reason to post about it. He set himself apart to gain extra attention, and whether you like his ideas or not, he got it.

than id try to understand.You obviously didn't try very hard, or you would have understood by now.

But this dude just watched a cartoon, and said MOMMY MOMMY I WANT THAT! put the shit on and people actually like this?Yea, it provides false hopes for those of us who watch cartoons, exclaim to our moms that we want something, and never actually get it.

Yo, if your into it than by all means, respect, i just think that hip-hop is jus a LIL more serious than to be mocked by someone bringing cartoons into the mix and "creating a character".Where do you draw the "serious" line? Just because an idea originated from comic books/cartoons makes something "not serious?" Tell that to Ghostface when he wrote "Ironman," Eminem when he wrote "Superman," Jean Grae when she chose her name, etc.

Havnt we hung past rappers out to dry for creating bullshit personalities?We have? Examples please, sir.

listen little guy...

I like to converse and not to argue. I put this thread up to discuss something that I wanted to discuss, not to have a child get mad becuz i didnt refer to his cartoons correctly. So like I said before, go play.

exactly "creating a character". I am the only one who thinks hip hop isnt the place for such cornball innovations? And as far as comparing his cartoon head grill to a little cartoon animal, wuts the difference? He stated in an interview that "the mask was part of this persona that hes trying to emulate.", homeboy had no real reason behind it. Now if the mask had a substantial representation (i.e. his frustration twards the penal system, or him having or wanting to hide behind a mask for reasons stemming from diversity) than id try to understand. But this dude just watched a cartoon, and said MOMMY MOMMY I WANT THAT! put the shit on and people actually like this?

Yo, if your into it than by all means, respect, i just think that hip-hop is jus a LIL more serious than to be mocked by someone bringing cartoons into the mix and "creating a character". Isnt "creating a character" a no no in rap? Havnt we hung past rappers out to dry for creating bullshit personalities?

At first glance, I disagreed with you whole-heartedly. But after you explained yourself, I agree with you in principle. The mask serves almost no purpose other then individualism. It has no deep political or social meaning. That's true. I don't agree with you in that the mask interferes with some sort of Hip-Hop guideline though.

Nah ive gathered that much, and understand his reasoning behind wearing it.... but come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Iunno, that wouldnt fly in kweenz. Unless a slug fucked your face up, and that mask was holding your jaw to your cheekbones. I just dont like those cries for attention. Cables and shiny watches are one thing, and hey ill even go as far as to accept spinning rims. But like, to look @ a comicbook and try to incorporate a costume that you like, into something like rap? How many copies of my shit would you buy, if I was on the cover dressed like a pokemon?

Wow, you've got it all backwards brah

jbbj set me straight than, cuz theres something to this whole thing thats just not clicking wit me. open to enlightenment.

and juice im not saying that theres any real guidelines. Im just sayin it doesnt really jive wit the type of music im into. the whole man in the iron mask thing just seems a little out of place thats all im saying.

^This coming from a guy who has a Super Hero as his User Icon.^
Which gives me more credibility to discuss the subject.

1. I wasnt questioning his reasoning, I was voicing my opinion.Ok, and I disagree with your opinion.

2. People who have power in REAL LIFE wear chains and watches where i come from.Well then I'll be able to recognize you as one of the people without chains and watches.

3. only one crying here is you baby boy.When did ravaging someone else's failed attempt at argument equate into crying?

4. If you find that COMIC BOOKS are an aspect of lifeApparently comic books were a big enough aspect of life for MF Doom, and for everyone that recognizes the Dr. Doom reference.

than you should have a convo with your parents about maybe being allowed to have friendsSo, do your parents not allow you to have friends, or do you just not have any because you're a retard?

or a later curfew or something to see what real life is.Later curfew? As tempting as real life sounds, It's 3 in the morning here, and I'm just as amused tearing your post to shreds.

5. No need to catch feelings over pokemon, im sure that that show is dear to your life and didnt mean to disrespect it, if thats how you took it.I accept your apology.

GROWN FOLKS IS TALKIN BOY! Go play somewhere.Well, unless you intend to spew more idiocity into this thread, I have no more business here.

Who gives a fuck if he wears a mask or not, dude makes good music to listen to..

^tru^ But if oscar de la hoya wore a skirt in the ring.....?

He'd be a fucking homo... your point?

Aveo

1. No, it makes your opinion on the subject biased.

2. If after you gathered that i was only stating my opinion after you accused me of not understanding his reasoning than your reply "ok and i disagree with your opinion" is null and void , because your original reply was shut down in the first place.

3. Yacht master and figaro links, ACT LIKE Ya KNO!

4. Like i said before I dun want to argue, and you havnt ravaged anything.

5. exactly my point.

and your just about shut down now so just clean yourself up and ill let you live this time.

I r o q
What's wrong about trying to attract some attention by putting on a mask?
Do you think the G-unit/Game conflict was 100% real? Those guys have definitely glanced at their record-sales. Isn't that more disgusting?

Everyone (whatever they say) are trying to draw attention to themselves, it's the world we live in. You won't have any success if you don't do it!
So why not put on a mask on try to appeal to the millions of people who read comics? (And could you try to explain why reading comics is stupid?)

Look at yourself. You probably dress in a way you believe/hope will attract the attention of certain people of the other sex. I'm sure you would put on a mask if you believed it would help you attract the attention of whatever you wanted to attract!

He started wearing a mask because he performed at an open mic night at some small club. He didn't want people to know it was zev love x (even thought that was highly unlikely) and he was performing under a new persona. All this was after his brother's death, and he was living on the streets for awhile.

All that, and it's a profitable gimmick.

lol @ this thread. Dumile is one of the most creative MCs/artists in hip hop. He may be getting attention and profit now for wearing the mask, but that was not the initial idea, which as already been cleared up. Nobody cared when Flava Flav wore a massive clock around his neck, nobody cared when Slick Rick wore the eye patch(different reasons, same principle) and wore large chains around his neck. But when an underground MC does something that in unique and a bit quirky it's deemed as weird and needs to be analysed in depth on an internet forum. Who cares if he wears a mask? Dumile makes great, creative and unique hip hop music that many people enjoy.


The points go to aevo for his posts.

Comics are cool, so is the mask. So stop asking bullshit questions.

I fell you Iroq. It is a lil corny and everything. I've grown to acept it only because of his music and how he incorporates the metal faced character into his songs. If his music was whack then he'd probably be gettin treated like krondon here.

He's not really a character tho. If you would listen you would see he raps about real life stuff. Either that or he'll just spit fire the way a classic emcee would like Rakim or something.

So are you telling me you'd like him more as "MF Bling" with a shitload of jewels and watches and the same boring mainstream subject matter of how many women/cars/dollars he has (although half the ones who rap like that don't ;) )?


Yeah, you enjoy that

7IEgnD-4ez8

Plus he's a very nice producer as well..

As well as the comic thing its a statement of hip hop appaerently (people more bothered about what you look like than the music)....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2GPL2y94H0

As well as the comic thing its a statement of hip hop appaerently (people more bothered about what you look like than the music)....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2GPL2y94H0

Seen that a while ago, brilliant video

u2GPL2y94H0

5zISHnyg9iE

QXg8xVR42Pg

jMEdAfcKGj0

pwmeMXMfAT8

KMD days

h_5YdIZY5wQ

sDYxks-1UVM

I think MF Doom also believes that people don't need to see the rapper's face to enjoy his music.

thanks we covered that

Well, I didn't read the whole thread. I just kinda read the first page or so(a few posts)

anyone seen him without his mask?

He has a few pictures out there... Seen it like once

Seen that a while ago, brilliant video

u2GPL2y94H0

5zISHnyg9iE

QXg8xVR42Pg

jMEdAfcKGj0

pwmeMXMfAT8

KMD days

h_5YdIZY5wQ

sDYxks-1UVM


Those KMD vids are dope......Dam I have been sleeping.

5zISHnyg9iE


I fuckin love that song

Edit: there's also 1 or 2 times in this video if you pause you can see him without the mask

Dont curse.....Good point on that last paragraph

Spekta..........Try dropping something that means something.

Soviet...........I dont think i EVER had to look @ a rappers face to enjoy his music. lol rap has the ugliest performers out of any form of entertainment. I didnt know people were needing to stare at an album cover in order to feel the traxx.

And just for the record, I feel dooms music. Im just not a big fan of the play time dress up thing.

Ok i got my own mask just like mf doom

thats his caracter dats his style it just makes his whole name and he also has one of the most evolved flows in hip hop...without dat mask he wouldnt be MF DOOM

Well, the mask is used in the Gladiator movie as well, so you can't call it just a cartoon thing.

http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies/2000/images/gladiator_poster.jpg

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/667931_mfdoom_200x200.jpg

Anyway, I don't see a problem with this. I think it's cool that he has different personas.

Damn never knew that.

Good find.

Damn never knew that.

Good find.

Maybe he's just a wannabe russell crowe.. he is a new zealander lol.

Maybe he's just a wannabe russell crowe.. he is a new zealander lol.

MF DOOM? Nahh, MF DOOM isn't from New Zealand, he was born in Southeast London.

If you ain't pertaining to DOOM, then carry on.

Damn never knew that.

Good find.

His original mask wasn't the gladiator mask. He never used that til he made the Madvillainy album. Up to then it was the Dr.Doom mask. Just watch his old videos.

MF DOOM? Nahh, MF DOOM isn't from New Zealand, he was born in Southeast London.

If you ain't pertaining to DOOM, then carry on.

Yeah i know i meant russell crowe.

His original mask wasn't the gladiator mask. He never used that til he made the Madvillainy album. Up to then it was the Dr.Doom mask. Just watch his old videos.


Yes that is true....

Just out of curiosity does anyone ever wear one of these masks out of the house...ya know. just to chill, and to be stylish?

If I had one...i would.

It would also be mad dope if someone like Nas did a collab with him and for the music video sported a mask. Damn, that shit would be crazy.

I'd like to fuck a bitch with one on

I've heard that he sends other people with the mask to perform instead of him

^ Lol

I've heard that he sends other people with the mask to perform instead of him
i've heard that to. and they play the cd and do "rapper hands" while walking up an down on stage.

I've heard that he sends other people with the mask to perform instead of him

Yip he did, seen somebody say that on ughh. He had a guy wear his mask and lip sync to his songs. That's fucked up.

I wonder why the audience didn't react

I wonder why the audience didn't react

They supposedly realized it wasn't him and the imposter went off after 20 mins lol.

lmao, I heard this rumor before, now again, don't know what to say

Yea I heard bout that.


Hey scottishhead, why did I receive an infraction from this thread yesterday?

I've heard that he sends other people with the mask to perform instead of him

Andy Kaufman (the comedian) used to do that shit all the time. He had another comedian that looked like one of his characters and would do whole shows without the audience knowing it was him. He did it just to amuse himself.

I wonder why the audience didn't react
they booed him off an threw bottles at him.

..without dat mask he wouldnt be MF DOOM
so if u never saw the mask not even once..you wouldn't be feeling his music?

...without dat mask he wouldnt be MF DOOM


Another prime example.


Oh so if flavor flav didnt have the big clock, public enemy wouldnt have sold?


Flawed logic.

Another prime example.


Oh so if flavor flav didnt have the big clock, public enemy wouldnt have sold?


Flawed logic.


Don't think he means it like that.

Without the mask, DOOM just wouldn't be DOOM. He'd probably have fans regardless cause the dudes sick. PE would've sold regardless if Flav had the clock simply because...it's just a clock.

The Mask is DOOM's main trademark, same with Flav and his clocks. When you think of Flav, you don't think of his ratty old teeth, you think of his big ass clock, just like when you think of DOOM you don't think of his beer belly and ashy hands.

nicely put

I cant believe he send a fraud on stage to mimic his rhymes!!

Im glad he got pelted with bottles!!

What rapper wouldnt do his own live shows....?

That is a discrace!!!

And how can people say that they wouldnt think the same of his music if he didnt wear that mask.

Its a FUCKING Mask Kunts get it through your heads.....If you judge a rapper by his looks, than go fuck off and swin in your mainstream!

Dont hate on MF if you think Hip Hop is all about your visual status!

I seen him without his mask before, i know why he wears it :p

I seen him without his mask before, i know why he wears it :p

was it for the same reason Teethal Weapon asked to get her mouth wired shut ?