View Full Version : LUPE FIASCO - DUMB IT DOWN *New Single/Vid*


X-NINE
09-28-2007, 11:37 AM
q1Et1siZhTk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Et1siZhTk)

.ScottishHead
09-28-2007, 11:59 AM
Doesn't quite cut the mustard.

cwb83c
09-28-2007, 12:13 PM
The song is clever, yet the video just doesnt do it.

Deldar182
09-28-2007, 01:43 PM
not bad, could use a bit improvement tho

-Maple-
09-28-2007, 02:12 PM
like the song, but the video is boring as hell

HipHopGee
09-28-2007, 02:50 PM
Lupe's vid have really been lacking lately, "He Say, She Say" and now this one. I think he needs to look for a new director.

X-NINE
09-28-2007, 04:05 PM
Well the song was called "Dumb It Down" tho^

Imo the vid was effective by being simple.....

Scrilla
09-28-2007, 05:18 PM
This song sucks and the video is even worse lol..

Lupe is a one hit wonder and his hype is gone so now you can see he is mediocre.

.ScottishHead
09-28-2007, 05:22 PM
This song sucks and the video is even worse lol..

Lupe is a one hit wonder and his hype is gone so now you can see he is mediocre.

The stans will stand in arms defending this though, it's their mentality.

Scrilla
09-28-2007, 05:28 PM
The stans will stand in arms defending this though, it's their mentality.
Oh well since their only excuse is "YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND U AINT ON HIS INTELLIGENCE LEVEL." Especially coming from stans like X-NINE THE DUDE WHO TYPEZ LIKE DIS AND SAYS SHIT LIKE LUPE IS DAT NIGGA MY DUDE.

It doesn't even bother me considering I know they probably don't get what he is saying. Plus anyone who worships Lupe as some God MC and thinks he's so smart has obviously never heard an MC much intelligence. There are plenty of people smarter than Lupe Fiasco, but when you compare him to Young Joc and DMX and Ja Rule and other guys in the mainstream of course he is gonna sound smart. Lupe Fiasco is basically Kanye West except he tries to be more complicated so it sounds as if he should be teaching Geometery or some shit.

.ScottishHead
09-28-2007, 05:29 PM
Oh well since their only excuse is "YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND U AINT ON HIS INTELLIGENCE LEVEL." Especially coming from stans like X-NINE THE DUDE WHO TYPEZ LIKE DIS AND SAYS SHIT LIKE LUPE IS DAT NIGGA MY DUDE.

It doesn't even bother me considering I know they probably don't get what he is saying. Plus anyone who worships Lupe as some God MC and thinks he's so smart has obviously never heard an MC much intelligence. There are plenty of people smarter than Lupe Fiasco, but when you compare him to Young Joc and DMX and Ja Rule and other guys in the mainstream of course he is gonna sound smart. Lupe Fiasco is basically Kanye West except he tries to be more complicated so it sounds as if he should be teaching Geometery or some shit.

LMAO.

Wow, this is exactly what I was thinking.

WhiteBoyThaPunk
09-28-2007, 05:48 PM
Oh well since their only excuse is "YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND U AINT ON HIS INTELLIGENCE LEVEL." Especially coming from stans like X-NINE THE DUDE WHO TYPEZ LIKE DIS AND SAYS SHIT LIKE LUPE IS DAT NIGGA MY DUDE.

It doesn't even bother me considering I know they probably don't get what he is saying. Plus anyone who worships Lupe as some God MC and thinks he's so smart has obviously never heard an MC much intelligence. There are plenty of people smarter than Lupe Fiasco, but when you compare him to Young Joc and DMX and Ja Rule and other guys in the mainstream of course he is gonna sound smart. Lupe Fiasco is basically Kanye West except he tries to be more complicated so it sounds as if he should be teaching Geometery or some shit.

he aint no god mc lol but hes above average in my opinion

but the video was actually funny cause it was so simple

great song

Killer Cosgrove
09-28-2007, 05:50 PM
I'm not being funny...but Lupe actually isnt good

EDIT: Based on intelligence, Talib Kweli > Lupe Fiasco

Scrilla
09-28-2007, 05:54 PM
he aint no god mc lol but hes above average in my opinion

but the video was actually funny cause it was so simple

great song
What is average in your opinion?

and

What's so great about Lupe that makes him above average?

"omg he's so smart, I just love an intelligent man much better than my immature 12 year old monkey dance partner!"

is what I expect from you.

The only thing smart he is doing is tricking fans into thinking he cares about half the shit he talks about. He just does it because he knows you all eat it up and will be like oMG LUPE DONT TALK ABOUT GUNS HE IS SPITTIN INTELLIGENT SHIT.

.ScottishHead
09-28-2007, 06:03 PM
What is average in your opinion?

and

What's so great about Lupe that makes him above average?



is what I expect from you.

The only thing smart he is doing is tricking fans into thinking he cares about half the shit he talks about. He just does it because he knows you all eat it up and will be like oMG LUPE DONT TALK ABOUT GUNS HE IS SPITTIN INTELLIGENT SHIT.

On point.

But you know for certian, at least one person will come in defending him using cap letters, and will not rebuttal properly.

Alan Johnson
09-28-2007, 06:12 PM
I like this song a lot... and the video is good! It doesn't have distractions.

Killer Cosgrove
09-28-2007, 06:14 PM
"distractions" like when you are sitting on the bus listening to Lupe and he's so damn crap you can't help but stare at the man with the funny haircut?

Yeah, probably.

.ScottishHead
09-28-2007, 06:16 PM
"distractions" like when you are sitting on the bus listening to Lupe and he's so damn crap you can't help but stare at the man with the funny haircut?

Yeah, probably.

The wagon is only a two seater thank you, me driving, scrilla in the passenger seat next to me.

Scrilla
09-28-2007, 06:16 PM
I like this song a lot... and the video is good! It doesn't have distractions.
Video would be better if it was in a strip club..

Naked chicks are the only thing that could save this video.

But I understand you enjoy watching guys stand there!!!!!

Alan Johnson
09-28-2007, 06:18 PM
"distractions" like when you are sitting on the bus listening to Lupe and he's so damn crap you can't help but stare at the man with the funny haircut?

Yeah, probably.

Thank god you don't work for the entertainment industry.

Killer Cosgrove
09-28-2007, 06:19 PM
#
The wagon is only a two seater thank you, me driving, scrilla in the passenger seat next to me.
Damn! No more room in the mystery machine, just when i got my hopes up...

Nems
09-28-2007, 07:19 PM
his rhymes are straight his presence is borring as hell

X-NINE
09-28-2007, 10:18 PM
Lupe Fiasco is basically Kanye West

STOP RIGHT THERE

He is NOTHING like Kanye lyrically, or flow wise so you better get on that shit mane.....Provide ONE good reason, and maybe I'll take you seriously

.ScottishHead
09-28-2007, 10:29 PM
On point.

But you know for certian, at least one person will come in defending him using cap letters, and will not rebuttal properly.

STOP RIGHT THERE

He is NOTHING like Kanye lyrically, or flow wise so you better get on that shit mane.....Provide ONE good reason, and maybe I'll take you seriously



My prediction was true. More will follow.

X-NINE
09-28-2007, 10:42 PM
The only thing smart he is doing is tricking fans into thinking he cares about half the shit he talks about. He just does it because he knows you all eat it up and will be like oMG LUPE DONT TALK ABOUT GUNS HE IS SPITTIN INTELLIGENT SHIT.

Now I gotta put your ass in check, you talk of him trying to seem intelligent to a large audiance, as if he's trying to suck up to white ppl, when you dont even KNOW him....He grew up on the west side of Chicago which is known primarily for gang activity, yet he wasnt on none of that shit, so how's he 'fronting' playa?....He didnt like rap at first because of the misogynistic content obviously, but now he has a career in it.....Its not like he's acting like anyone else here, he's being himself, and I met this dude last yr, he wasnt trying to talk all street or nothing, he was chill mothafucka...WHAT CHU KNOW BOUT THAT? Nothing playa, you stay on that hoe shit

And last off, when did it become popular to say all Lupe fans JUST like him because he isnt talking about guns or whatever? Thats not why I copped his album, I copped it cuz I support dude and personally believe he's one of the best up-and-coming rappers in a long time imo....To say ALL fans like him because he doesnt talk of guns is ignorant, when thats a fucked up general statement to make.....True theres plenty of mothafuckaz that stick with him cuz of the not rapping about guns, NO SHIT, but the REALLLLLLLLL question is, HOW many mothafuckaz say the SAME shit about UNDERGROUND ARTISTS LIKE AESOP ROCK 'EL-P AND ATMOSPHERE, BEING BETTER BECAUSE "THEY ARE UNDERGROUND", 'THEY ARE NOT LIKE ALL THE OTHER RAP OF TODAY" "THEY ARE COOL BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT ABSTRACT SHIT, AND NOT CLUB SHIT"????? NOW TELL ME WTF YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS is exactly why this type of argument is useless, ppl slam on Lupe yet are THE SAME PPL who give most underground/independent artists the benefit of the doubt because of their STATUS as a non-major artist...

:smh: @ all the ppl who wish to see him fail seriously....No one wants to see this
nigga eat or live huh.... :smh:

DrUnK-N-MuNkY
09-28-2007, 10:45 PM
i never sleep

ya know why

niggas i just never sleep

i feel sleep is the cousin of death

because behind the walls of intelligence i think life is defined


brah brah

i think of crime

when i'm in that zone

that zone brah

that new york state of mind brah

X-NINE
09-28-2007, 10:45 PM
Im waiting for SOMEONE to say something......

Step on up.....Im ready for debate anytime

.ScottishHead
09-28-2007, 10:49 PM
My prediction was true. More will follow.


Now I gotta put your ass in check, you talk of him trying to seem intelligent to a large audiance, as if he's trying to suck up to white ppl, when you dont even KNOW him....He grew up on the west side of Chicago which is known primarily for gang activity, yet he wasnt on none of that shit, so how's he 'fronting' playa?....He didnt like rap at first because of the misogynistic content obviously, but now he has a career in it.....Its not like he's acting like anyone else here, he's being himself, and I met this dude last yr, he wasnt trying to talk all street or nothing, he was chill mothafucka...WHAT CHU KNOW BOUT THAT? Nothing playa, you stay on that hoe shit

And last off, when did it become popular to say all Lupe fans JUST like him because he isnt talking about guns or whatever? Thats not why I copped his album, I copped it cuz I support dude and personally believe he's one of the best up-and-coming rappers in a long time imo....To say ALL fans like him because he doesnt talk of guns is ignorant, when thats a fucked up general statement to make.....True theres plenty of mothafuckaz that stick with him cuz of the not rapping about guns, NO SHIT, but the REALLLLLLLLL question is, HOW many mothafuckaz say the SAME shit about UNDERGROUND ARTISTS LIKE AESOP ROCK 'EL-P AND ATMOSPHERE, BEING BETTER BECAUSE "THEY ARE UNDERGROUND", 'THEY ARE NOT LIKE ALL THE OTHER RAP OF TODAY" "THEY ARE COOL BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT ABSTRACT SHIT, AND NOT CLUB SHIT"????? NOW TELL ME WTF YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS is exactly why this type of argument is useless, ppl slam on Lupe yet are THE SAME PPL who give most underground/independent artists the benefit of the doubt because of their STATUS as a non-major artist...

:smh: @ all the ppl who wish to see him fail seriously....No one wants to see this
nigga eat or live huh.... :smh:



I was right again.

doc.mentor
09-28-2007, 11:04 PM
i dont like the song or the video...
imo its one of his worst

Nems
09-28-2007, 11:09 PM
i dont like the song or the video...
imo its one of his worst
lyrically better than anything on the mainstream level, but like i said...borring man on the mic...

Glenn Swagmire
09-28-2007, 11:15 PM
his rhymes are straight his presence is borring as hell

this basically sums him up ...

i like Lupe, i liked his album (retail & advance) ... but i didn't like the way people acted when his album came out and they wir acting like it was a classic & he was the saving grace of hip-hop ...

also i noticed that except from me and probably a good few others ... people either HATE or LOVE Lupe ...

doc.mentor
09-28-2007, 11:43 PM
yea it was hella boring
i dont like the production fuking made me want to sleep lyrics werent that great either

Conz
09-29-2007, 12:03 AM
I like Lupe, thought F&L was a good album, but I don't really like this song at all.

Boring.

Scrilla
09-29-2007, 03:12 AM
@ X-NINE

My point about Kanye and Lupe is they make songs that have nothing to do with guns and shit and it's not just because they know nothing about it.. It's because they know that the people who don't even like rap will flock to it and say, "Yo these guys aint rappin about killin people i'ma buy this! shit i can even play this cd in the car!!!!" I've seen it said plenty of times damnit. The reason he is rapping at all is because it taps into that market of people who hate rap but yo if you make a song about jesus or diamonds of sierra leone or kick push or other bullshit like that people suddenly think you are some genius. I can't believe I am doing this, but I just got home from work and I'm bored so I'ma show you what I mean.


See the problem is, niggas think Lupe's wack because they cant even fuckin comprehend wtf he's talking about.....He isnt that emcee you can just bump and nod ya hed to, he's one of them you have to sit down to decipher what he's sayin type rappers


Interesting because I like plenty of rappers who you can sit down and decipher what they are saying, but plenty of them are better at that style than Lupe Fiasco. His shit isn't even that hard to decipher if I really wanted to I could decipher this song in 2 listens, but it's boring and what is the point of him saying all this shit? To prove that he isn't as retarded as Young Chris and Souljah Boy? Any average person isn't as retarded as that shit. You don't have to make some complicated bullshit song about it to prove it though.

he has so much material..
and right now is putting out the best tracks other then like Nas n shit
but yeah...Lupe Fiasco >>..almost all rappers on the radio right now...

hes dope and that cant be denied

but yeah most dont like him
because they dont understand him...and because they think
he only raps about skate boarding...


First of all he is comparing them to all the rappers on the radio right now. That is wear you start to have a problem considering the rappers on the radio seem to be mentally challenged and just because Lupe isn't mentally challenged he is deemed as some genius. Is this what we have come to? Just because he isn't as retarded as the next guy on the radio he is hailed as some genius? And of course here comes the "they dont understand him" arguement again. Maybe I don't understand him, why dont you explain him to me since everyone else seems to have a much better understanding than I do.

DUKE IS ORIGINAL
How the hell is he original? Please explain.. Unless you have only been listening to mainstream hip-hop for a few years and have only heard a few tracks about rims and hoes I dont get how you could call him original. Conscious rap and lyricism is not original, nor are concept albums which I believe he is working on now.

Lupe is gonna save hiphop by getting mainstream cats intriqued once again. Fans will feel enlightened by his content and start favoring cats like that(thus bringing underground cats) into light.
The mainstream enlightened by his content are also enlightened by BY U A DRANK and other bullshit so I don't see how they will be able to comprehend even better shit since they have to sit down for hours and decipher Lupe Fiasco for hours like shakesphere when he really isn't even that complicated.


I'm kinda bored of this now so I will stop. All of the quotes above were found by searching Lupe Fiasco on the forum search tool. In conclusion if you think Lupe is the most complex shit you have ever heard I feel sorry for you. If you think Lupe is orginal you obviously haven't heard too much shit.

No I don't hate every Lupe song, nor do I think he is garbage. However saying he is the best in the mainstream is like saying he won a contest of whose shit smelt the best. He isn't the best and is far from the worst. He is mediocre and if I wanna hear some "complex and original shit" I def won't be buying the Cool.

Cengiz
09-29-2007, 03:22 AM
this basically sums him up ...

i like Lupe, i liked his album (retail & advance) ... but i didn't like the way people acted when his album came out and they wir acting like it was a classic & he was the saving grace of hip-hop ...

also i noticed that except from me and probably a good few others ... people either HATE or LOVE Lupe ...

Yeah agreed.

-Maple-
09-29-2007, 03:42 AM
what? Lupe is not average. i think he's slighlty above average, better than kanye, he's got nice word play...

like rakim said, he's a breath of fresh air in hiphop....lol or was.

Scrilla
09-29-2007, 03:44 AM
That's because the mainstream is shitty. Face it if it was the 90s or something people wouldn't give a fuck about Lupe.. Now he is just compared to the 1 hit wonders.

MasSGyozA
09-29-2007, 04:46 AM
Doesn't quite cut the mustard. its horrible.

Well the song was called "Dumb It Down" tho^

Imo the vid was effective by being simple.....


if by simple you mean shit, then yes. i bet that video took about two or three hours to make. its not effective because its simple, its not even simple in an artistic sense, it just lacks any detectable notion of creativity and ingenuity.
This song sucks and the video is even worse lol..

Lupe is a one hit wonder and his hype is gone so now you can see he is mediocre.
even better than what scotty said. i've been saying this all along, god dammit.

The stans will stand in arms defending this though, it's their mentality. this is like a 21st century re-phrasing of the saying "cant win against fools."

X-NINE
09-29-2007, 05:13 AM
@ X-NINE

My point about Kanye and Lupe is they make songs that have nothing to do with guns and shit and it's not just because they know nothing about it.. It's because they know that the people who don't even like rap will flock to it and say, "Yo these guys aint rappin about killin people i'ma buy this! shit i can even play this cd in the car!!!!" I'v


Ok I undestand you, but cut the shit here.....Even ppl that dont fuck with rap have bought a rapper like DMX's records.....Same for most major artists....

Interesting because I like plenty of rappers who you can sit down and decipher what they are saying, but plenty of them are better at that style than Lupe Fiasco. His shit isn't even that hard to decipher if I really wanted to I could decipher this song in 2 listens, but it's boring and what is the point of him saying all this shit? To prove that he isn't as retarded as Young Chris and Souljah Boy? Any average person isn't as retarded as that shit. You don't have to make some complicated bullshit song about it to prove it though.

I mean he is one of the rappers you gotta really listen to gain an appreciation of his lyrics......He's simple but still got some deep shit at the same time...It is clear he is not for everyone, as seen in these last few posts.....he is not trying to prove he's not ignorant to no one, for fucks sake, this nigga gives props to Three 6 Mafia and a whole bunch on mainstream rappers out, he aint hatin no one, he lettin others do them.....
How the hell is he original? Please explain.. Unless you have only been listening to mainstream hip-hop for a few years and have only heard a few tracks about rims and hoes I dont get how you could call him original. Conscious rap and lyricism is not original, nor are concept albums which I believe he is working on now.You dont know me son, I been fuckin with hiphop/rap since 99' I fucks with it all, underground, mainstream, local, all regions, you name it, so dont act like I'm some new hiphop head, you understand me?....I back my shit up......I never said conscious lyricism is original, where did I say that??? I listen to gangsta rap/mainstream shit as well here.....Now why I THINK he original? When I first copped and herd it, I thought it was on some fresh shit based on the diverse content, creative lyrics, production, and how he carried himself on that whole album...Each time I listened to it, more shit started to make sense which further enhanced that album for me....Shit I didnt catch, I was catchin a whole lotta shit I didnt hear on that listen....He wasnt trying to be the best lyricist out there, he was doin him, and was able to get across his message with the title being called 'Food & Liquor' which is a reference what the corner stores out here in Chicago are called : 'Food & Liquor' stores....Shit some conscious rappers cant even hold a mothafuckaz attn cuz they SO focused on trying to be a lyrical god....Lupe aint gotta do all that, he keeps it simple, yet his messages are still deep....

The mainstream enlightened by his content are also enlightened by BY U A DRANK and other bullshitAnd I listen to mainstream shit too mane, but not that 'Buy You A Drank' shit tho.......So wtf are you talking about?

Point blank, nigga gets hated on for not being 'Black enough', his image, and the ppl who hype him up like a mothafucka.....Still at the end of the day, these haters can swallow my dick for all I care....

.ScottishHead
09-29-2007, 09:36 AM
X Nine missed Scrilla's whole point.

X-NINE
09-29-2007, 01:24 PM
What point did he have? Other than all this 'Lupe Fiasco is just trying to make positive rap just so ppl can say this or that about him' that he speaks of??

X-NINE
09-29-2007, 01:38 PM
I like how the thread gets off topic whens its sposed to be discussion on whether you feelin the vid or not, then suddenly turns into the 'Fuck Lupe' thread.....Yall MUST not to see him suceed....

And dont let me air somma yall out in here

.ScottishHead
09-29-2007, 05:04 PM
"The truth about Lupe thread"

I can't help that I'm not a bandwagon fan.

X-NINE
09-29-2007, 06:00 PM
What folks fail to realise is that dude doesnt think he's the best or none of that, he doesnt think he's the best thing since sliced bread, he aint trying to do SHIT but just make music....Did he ever say he was the mothafucking savior of hiphop!??? Fuck naw, its only a certain percentage of his fanbase that speaks of him as if he is god..... and if he was like Kanye West, he'd have a fuckin big ego like that mothafucker has anyway.....

On that note, since WHEN was an artist overrated because a lot of ppl like that particular artist?

doc.mentor
09-29-2007, 06:18 PM
it doesnt matter if lupe is a god mc or not
hes a nice rapper and hes aint fake

Nems
09-29-2007, 06:21 PM
On that note, since WHEN was an artist overrated because a lot of ppl like that particular artist?
lmao...wow...serious??

.ScottishHead
09-29-2007, 06:26 PM
On that note, since WHEN was an artist overrated because a lot of ppl like that particular artist?

Since when was an artist underrated when some people don't like them?

X-NINE
09-29-2007, 06:46 PM
Since when was an artist underrated when some people don't like them?

Because no one gives a flying FUCK about him, everyone acts like he aint got no talent, shit goes over mothafuckaz heads, so its not recieved well to a large audiance, is misunderstood, ppl hate on him with their lil ol hoe ass opinions, and many passed it off like 'Aw fuck that nerd shit, its wack' 'wtf is he talking about'?....No one gave him a fair chance, aka the industry or the public, he was comes out with an album and gets shitted on for bein him, and how he raps....So yes, he's underrated by the industry and outside of the net.....

Now did I answer yo question?

And according to the RW public, alotta ppl feeling Lupe must mean he overrated, then I guess alotta ppl praising GZA must mean he's overrated as well?.......

What a wasted thread :smh:

.ScottishHead
09-29-2007, 07:09 PM
I thought you didn't give a fuck what people thought, when you went to the trouble of making those audios?

So why do you give a fuck about me not thinkin he's good? It's my opinion.

X-NINE
09-29-2007, 07:29 PM
I thought you didn't give a fuck what people thought, when you went to the trouble of making those audios?

So why do you give a fuck about me not thinkin he's good? It's my opinion.

I state how I feel regardless if I give a fuck about what a dude says or not

Why am I goin off bout Lupe? If someone said somethin sideways bout a rapper you like, wouldnt you defend him as well? I have no prob with anyone saying they like dont him, reason I said what I said to SCRILLA is because he talked some sideways ass shit about homie trying to seem like he's intelligent, and I felt he came off ignorant with somma the shit he said.....And I wasnt saying you should like dude Scott, im only refferin to everyone else and Scrilla here........I aint tryin to change ppl, just gettin my debate on.....

Im only pissed because this whole thread turned into another thread bashing the duke, when it was intended to discuss whether you felt the single or not....you didnt feel it, ok, Im not mad at you, but once SCRILLA came in, he fucked up the whole discussion in this mothafucka, so I had to go hard on the duke

Death Bed
09-29-2007, 08:25 PM
I ain't readin all this shit but read the lyrics the are tight I love the concept..tight I love this track for real just he needs more presence.

Glenn Swagmire
09-29-2007, 08:31 PM
he's obviously making a statement by doing the complete opposite of dumbing it down which is sound but the song is shite and i will rarely listen to it again ... lyrically it's good but the song is annoying ...

.epic.
09-30-2007, 02:42 AM
I can respect what Greeny just said above me. But its kinda absurd for anyone to say this isnt a lyrical song. And I think some of the people hatin on it just dont know what the song means. Like the verses...not the overall idea thats obvious. I think most dont know what hes sayin.

So Im not tyin to be a dbag here, but i think some of the members dont want to listen to music at this level and thus trash on it.

And yes, some of you may get it and simply dont like the song because the chorus is wack or any othr reason.

X-NINE
09-30-2007, 04:28 AM
It aint a standout track like 'Kick Push' no doubt, the beat is average for his standards, but then again that is probably why he picked a simpel one for this 'dumb it down' concept....Lyrically its str8, but Id like to see what he REALLY gonna come out with for this new album.....

MasSGyozA
09-30-2007, 04:37 AM
it doesnt matter if lupe is a god mc or not
hes a nice rapper and hes aint fake
hey look. another retarded now member.

HipHopGee
09-30-2007, 11:22 AM
Jeeze, this is bash Lupe thread all of a sudden? He is a very decent MC, not too big on this song I will admit, but Lupe is certainty not trash, faaaaar from it.

.ScottishHead
09-30-2007, 11:26 AM
I can respect what Greeny just said above me. But its kinda absurd for anyone to say this isnt a lyrical song. And I think some of the people hatin on it just dont know what the song means. Like the verses...not the overall idea thats obvious. I think most dont know what hes sayin.

So Im not tyin to be a dbag here, but i think some of the members dont want to listen to music at this level and thus trash on it.

And yes, some of you may get it and simply dont like the song because the chorus is wack or any othr reason.

LOLOLOLOL I knew what the song was going to be about before even listenin to it.

It's an ironc song.

.epic.
09-30-2007, 01:22 PM
LOLOLOLOL I knew what the song was going to be about before even listenin to it.

It's an ironc song.


oh word. I think anyone with any intelligence could have figured it out. I was talkin more about the lyrics and the verses.

Like When Lupe Says...

I'm peerless, that means im eyeless, which means im tearless, which means my iris resides where my ears is, which means im blinded"

He is saying, that he doesnt know where hes going in the music industry but simply uses his ears to guide him to what sounds good, but everyone tells him he is blind and doing it wrong.


"But Ima find it, i can feel its nearness. But ima veer so i dont come near"

Obvious. He is saying he could go that route of mainstream, but choses not to.

"But i remember im not a listener or a seer, so my windsheild smeared, here you steer i really shouldnt be behind this cause my blindness"

Saying he cant see out clearly into the industry. And wants someone else to take over for him.

The whole grill is minstrill filled with roadkill.

He is using the car as a metaphor for his path in the music industry and now he is saying he is saying obstacles are getting in the way of his path.



Anyway back to my point, I think some people would rather listen to Lil Wayne or Kanye because they dont need to think too hard. Obviously your not goin listen to this song the first time and go along analyzing what he said to this level.

.ScottishHead
09-30-2007, 01:24 PM
oh word. I think anyone with any intelligence could have figured it out. I was talkin more about the lyrics and the verses.

Like When Lupe Says...

I'm peerless, that means im eyeless, which means im tearless, which means my iris resides where my ears is, which means im blinded"

He is saying, that he doesnt know where hes going in the music industry but simply uses his ears to guide him to what sounds good, but everyone tells him he is blind and doing it wrong.


"But Ima find it, i can feel its nearness. But ima veer so i dont come near"

Obvious. He is saying he could go that route of mainstream, but choses not to.

"But i remember im not a listener or a seer, so my windsheild smeared, here you steer i really shouldnt be behind this cause my blindness"

Saying he cant see out clearly into the industry. And wants someone else to take over for him.

The whole grill is minstrill filled with roadkill.

He is using the car as a metaphor for his path in the music industry and now he is saying he is saying obstacles are getting in the way of his path.



Anyway back to my point, I think some people would rather listen to Lil Wayne or Kanye because they dont need to think too hard. Obviously your not goin listen to this song the first time and go along analyzing what he said to this level.

Yeah because I just love da boi weezy, I have all hiz mixtapes B, all his tees. yaaa dig.

.epic.
09-30-2007, 01:44 PM
Yeah because I just love da boi weezy, I have all hiz mixtapes B, all his tees. yaaa dig.
i wasnt directing my post towards you. The word "you" can be used to represent a plural form of "you all". So....your(Scottishhead) an idiot. Thanks fo your(Scottishhead) input though.

Drastik Da God
09-30-2007, 02:24 PM
These are facts:

Most of this site consists of nerds. FACT!

Nerds that like rap and the rapper, because the rapper acts the way the nerd wishes they could. FACT!

Now that Lupe has declared his presence in Hip-Hop as a "Revenge of the Nerds" type ordeal, most nerdy hip-hop heads cannot deal with that because although they listen to rappers that "kick knowledge" they still want a rapper that comes off as the hardest man in the history of the world. FACT!

Lupe just isn't that role model for you nerds. I get it. You guys want Nas (who isn't gangster) to tell you about a jewlery heist at 3 in the morning in Queens New York, when you know damn fucking well its all bullshit.

But thats rap. Bullshit. Hip-hop is classified as good (at least to me) when the lyrics have content and the rapper's flow isn't played out. I've learned to omit the "real" factor in Hip-Hop a long time ago.

I suggest everyone does the same.

Drastik Da God
09-30-2007, 02:27 PM
Oh, and Lupe does rap about guns.

"Pop Pop"

Download it.

.ScottishHead
09-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Wordburglar>Lupe.

People get mad on here when you diss their favourite rapper. FACT.

Nems
09-30-2007, 02:59 PM
Wordburglar>Lupe.

People get mad on here when you diss their favourite rapper. FACT.
lol for sure...

X-NINE
09-30-2007, 04:03 PM
Lupe aint even my fave rapper......

Scrilla
09-30-2007, 05:21 PM
trey songz > lupe

TwentyZ
09-30-2007, 05:50 PM
Personally I enjoyed this. A lot. Great song, and I thought the beat was good...

Drastik Da God
09-30-2007, 06:05 PM
I know scotty wasn't calling Lupe anyone's favorite rapper here.

He hasn't been around long enough to even be considered semi-consistent.

And just because you mentioned favorite rapper... I'm gonna put it out there and call Reggie Noble's stinkin ass my favorite rapper.

/the bullshit

Noyze
09-30-2007, 06:24 PM
"Even Scuba Steve would find it hard to breathe"

Lol

.ScottishHead
09-30-2007, 06:39 PM
I know scotty wasn't calling Lupe anyone's favorite rapper here.

He hasn't been around long enough to even be considered semi-consistent.

And just because you mentioned favorite rapper... I'm gonna put it out there and call Reggie Noble's stinkin ass my favorite rapper.

/the bullshit

This post garnered no praise.

doc.mentor
09-30-2007, 06:51 PM
hey look. another retarded now member.

at least i dont look for guys that r half naked >>

Scrilla
09-30-2007, 07:17 PM
Anyway back to my point, I think some people would rather listen to Lil Wayne or Kanye because they dont need to think too hard. Obviously your not goin listen to this song the first time and go along analyzing what he said to this level.
No because this shit isn't that hard to think about? It takes you one or two listens to understand teh song and it's pointless. You guys make it sound like you sit down for hours analyzing Lupe songs to find the deeper meaning and if it really takes you that long then I feel sorry for you.

If I wanna sit down find the deeeper meaning of a song it's definetly not a Lupe song.

Alan Johnson
10-01-2007, 01:34 AM
i wasnt directing my post towards you. The word "you" can be used to represent a plural form of "you all". So....your(Scottishhead) an idiot. Thanks fo your(Scottishhead) input though.
No idea how ScottishHead didn't catch this but when you are insulting someone (ie: So....your(Scottishhead) an idiot.) try to at least do it right?

You're is a contraction
Your is possessive


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.ScottishHead
10-01-2007, 01:37 AM
No idea how ScottishHead didn't catch this but when you are insulting someone (ie: So....your(Scottishhead) an idiot.) try to at least do it right?

You're is a contraction
Your is possessive


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I've used that before.

Alan Johnson
10-01-2007, 03:47 AM
Why does [CTRL]+[RIGHT CLICK] check the definition and then leave an imprint in the post...

hmm....

Drastik Da God
10-01-2007, 04:54 PM
This post garnered no praise.

I made sense and gave you a Lupe song about guns.

And in the end....

I still love you. L-)

.epic.
10-01-2007, 05:35 PM
No idea how ScottishHead didn't catch this but when you are insulting someone (ie: So....your(Scottishhead) an idiot.) try to at least do it right?

You're is a contraction
Your is possessive


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wow, sweet. Pull out the grammatical diss. Creative. Pointing out a flaw in my grammar, that really put me in my place. i should know better and use perfect grammar, to impress you guys.




No because this shit isn't that hard to think about? It takes you one or two listens to understand teh song and it's pointless. You guys make it sound like you sit down for hours analyzing Lupe songs to find the deeper meaning and if it really takes you that long then I feel sorry for you.

If I wanna sit down find the deeeper meaning of a song it's definetly not a Lupe song.



if it took you more than the first chrous to understand the meaning of "the song" than your no doubt a fuckin idiot. How many times must I say this, its analyzing and appreciating individual lines. Lupe made it a point in this song to make sure every line was purposly deep, some people are lazy and dont want to try and figure out what he means why he says...."Pimps see the wings on the underground King" Which is one of the simpler lines.

All this shit is so pointless. Fuck yall, I dont know why some people go into threads just to express their hate for an artist.

Alan Johnson
10-01-2007, 05:37 PM
i like the beat A LOT