View Full Version : deff vs Skream (4-4 TIE)


Vokals
11-25-2007, 10:39 PM
regular rules
40-60 lines
topic: when hell freezes over
due date: november 28 11:59 pm central time

Australian™
11-26-2007, 01:25 AM
Could we possibly push this forward a few days? I've got exams this week..
thanks

Skream
11-26-2007, 10:14 AM
checkin in.

do you mean push back to a later date???? if not then why don't you just post your verse early. its only two days.

if yes then thats cool...when the best date for you...why don't you send me a pm and we can talk about it that way

Skream
11-27-2007, 11:23 PM
Imagine new life after something fun happens here
The devil vacates to the sun’s atmosphere
We get a high like our heads up in the stratosphere
Yet theres no addiction to coke, grass, or beer
your saddest fears disappear cuz the world is peace
the winds swirl with ease so they don’t disturb the streets
the violent crime rate is plotted on a curve of decrease
the urge to be sweet erases the need for nervous police
no more surges of weeps from folks who are served wit defeat
success is not decided by wealth yet by the service u preach
if uve earned it, uve seeked, cuz u deserve what u reap
in this world where all is fair faith determines yo keeps
hate, murder, and greed are buried deep in the past
the cheap meets the halfs who meet the steep in the cash
we grow equal fast cuz theres no giant leap between class
we need what we have and for that we are seemingly glad (16)
redeeming the laughs, no more ghastly cries from beatings
nor is there ruptured skin painfully divided by bleeding
life isn’t misleading, no lies are stored in our heads
life is a dream so there is no timely course of regret
all sex is safe and no more young hymens are forced into shreds
no separation of nation, the word foreign is dead
no more enormous heads on top of skin and bones
cuz food is cooked in surplus in kitchens in homes
that we all own, one bite and we all grin and moan
the growth of the virus is no longer just postponed
theres a known cure that leaves the blood cleaner than chrome
no more hunger, no more disease, nor homelessness
when hell freezes over there’ll be no more stress

Australian™
11-28-2007, 07:17 AM
19 minute key..haha


Australians will get the hook..
(The Hook is similar to “Audience with the Devil by Hilltop Hoods” So you don’t think I’m biting – don’t have to take this into account in the votes I just think it sets my verse up...)

"Deff: What will the world do once your gone?"

Conversing with the Devil just below ground level
thinking often of eternal sleep in his coffin
Cos he’s suffering - sick and he’s coughin
With mankind in their current state
They don’t need him to decide their fate
“The position of Satan has become ceremonial”
With so much hatin’ even own kids and matrimonial
They’ve created their own Hell on Earth
Doomed- since their first yell at birth
Pregnant women crying, orphaned children dieing
Politicians lying against religion ALL defying
A loss for humanity, plunged into insanity
Christianity replaced by human moral vanity

"Devil: I’m sure they don’t need me. They’re doing well enough by themselves"

with the destruction of hell comes much rejoicing
Angels garbled cries are drowned out by the voicing
of streets thugs, rapists and dealers of drugs
Holding a .9 to St Michaels head – he simply shrugs
Nowhere else to go but to raid into heaven
On that fateful day.. September Eleven
From that point on – all of the dead
Whether good bad or evil – were all lead
Into sanctuary, but what it became in stead
Was a new kind of hell, where they wont remain dead
With nowhere to go they can pillage and burn
Raping angels and saints with little concern…

Deff: "When we die. We’re all going to Hell aren’t we?"
Devil: "One man’s heaven is another mans hell" (laughs)

Its Hell on Earth but its worse up above
In a world devoid of compassion and love
You can beg and plead, even get on your knees
But the Devil is gone, and Hell’s in deep freeze…

Deff: "With no-one to sort the good from the bad… They’ll all end up in one place, with no rules or laws?"
Devil: "Mankind has done my will, I can finally be at peace.."

Archaic
11-28-2007, 05:03 PM
wow
congrats to both
I enjoyed both verses
Scream always setting the bar fam
Deff I thought you were gonna get murdered
to be honest the only difference between the 2 was the entertainment value
which surprisingly goes to Deff..

Australian™
11-29-2007, 01:55 AM
^ Thanks for the feedback haha

1-0

Wreckin-Eyez
11-29-2007, 04:36 AM
holy shit... that was fun and i loved both of the verses...
the endin verse was nice deff...
vote - deff

Ice Cube
11-29-2007, 09:09 AM
Yeah, this topical was good. Both came with fire, I think deff just edged it out with more depth into his verse, both played the topic very good, but I enjoyed Deffs a little bit more.

Vote - Deff

Skream
11-29-2007, 04:11 PM
hey can yall go by the regular rules and due the regular topical breakdown format

Australian™
11-29-2007, 11:18 PM
Well we can call it 3-0 or we can get them to do the Cats and then call it 3-0 anyway so..if you feel that strongly about it?

Vokals
11-30-2007, 12:56 AM
no hate to deff, but those votes are not even topical type votes, nothing to them

0-0
need to be explained more

but nice verses by both

Snale
12-01-2007, 04:47 AM
I'll break this down my way.

OK, so the imagery on both pieces was at a HIGH i really enjoyed this battle fellas so keep up the good work. I felt skream had the better formatted topical. The flow was better, the lines were smoother, it was just all around safe. But than i read Deff's verse and i enjoyed the creativity he put into it. Skream has a solid verse all around, but it wasn't anything that made me go back and re-read it like i said it was what i expected from skream which was about an above average topical. But deff came in here and proved that he can write, dude might not be the best battler, but i did enjoy this piece. He came with vivid imagery and creativity which one it for him.

Fav bars from both

Skream-redeeming the laughs, no more ghastly cries from beatings
nor is there ruptured skin painfully divided by bleeding
life isn’t misleading, no lies are stored in our heads
life is a dream so there is no timely course of regret
all sex is safe and no more young hymens are forced into shreds
no separation of nation, the word foreign is dead

Deff-with the destruction of hell comes much rejoicing
Angels garbled cries are drowned out by the voicing
of streets thugs, rapists and dealers of drugs
Holding a .9 to St Michaels head – he simply shrugs
Nowhere else to go but to raid into heaven
On that fateful day.. September Eleven
From that point on – all of the dead
Whether good bad or evil – were all lead
Into sanctuary, but what it became in stead
Was a new kind of hell, where they wont remain dead
With nowhere to go they can pillage and burn
Raping angels and saints with little concern…


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OVERALL- Deff, the creativity factor won it for him, he went out on a limb and it paid off. I enjoyed how he versed his writing in a sort of conversation/arguement, but heres the breakdown.


Flow-Tied, both had great flow, two different types of writers
Imagery-Deff, he had more vivid imagery
Metaphors-Tied, Skream had an abstract view on the whole "hell freezing over" but deff stayed up to with his verse tying in the metaphorical sense to literal terms
Creativity-Deff, made his stanzas stick out more
Complexity-Skream, had a more complex view on the topic

Vote-Deff

One hell of a topical bought guys, keep them coming.

Reps.

Australian™
12-01-2007, 05:56 AM
^ Appreciate the time you took to break it down, read both the verses, leave feedback and vote - rep.

1-0

Demicaust
12-01-2007, 07:34 AM
Flow-Ok I was looking it over even though I like skream's shit better, i'd say Tie
Imagery-Skream, I liked her style on this, very detailed
Metaphors-Hmmm I'd say tie... both had some allright metaphors, nothing really ground breaking
Creativity-Deff.. your scheme on this was totally creative and mad skilled
Complexity-Skream.. her shit was had more into it.. straight and out

Vokals
12-01-2007, 12:19 PM
..1-1..

Wreckin-Eyez
12-01-2007, 06:39 PM
Flow: Both flowed really well, ill call it a tie
Imagery: Deff- Unlike skreams there was actually a story in deff's which I could follow
Metaphors: not really many metas - tie
Creativity: Deff - I think deff came real creative with his take on it - making it seem like a discussion
Complexity: Skream - her verse was way more complex

Vote: Deff

Great battle I really enjoyed both verses
keep at it

Australian™
12-01-2007, 11:07 PM
..2-1..

Harsh
12-02-2007, 04:56 PM
i enjoyed reading this...this was nice

flow-deff
imagery-deff
complexity-skream
metaphors-skream
creativity-deff - liked the angle you played

vote-deff

nice battle...stay up

Vokals
12-02-2007, 08:37 PM
still 1-1
dascribe and bevol are crew

unless skream says otherwise

-Nr.
12-02-2007, 09:12 PM
lol@people thinking w/battling categories.

and wtf@dude bevol saying skream had no STORY? wtf lmao.

anyway,both flowed well,but the upper hand goes to skream on that one. fluent as fuck off the tongue and the multi's was serious. i found just ONE force in the entire drop,but i couldnt help but overlook it. the imagery of his shit was just ridiculous.

Imagine new life after something fun happens here
The devil vacates to the sun’s atmosphere
We get a high like our heads up in the stratosphere
Yet theres no addiction to coke, grass, or beer
your saddest fears disappear cuz the world is peace
the winds swirl with ease so they don’t disturb the streets
the violent crime rate is plotted on a curve of decrease
the urge to be sweet erases the need for nervous police

^fucking smoooooooth as fuck and i can really see this happening.

redeeming the laughs, no more ghastly cries from beatings
nor is there ruptured skin painfully divided by bleeding
life isn’t misleading, no lies are stored in our heads
life is a dream so there is no timely course of regret
^another part i was feeling. but honestly i was gonna quote the whole piece since it had to work together. but the parts i pulled out worked well on their own so i didnt wanna O.D on the quote.

with the destruction of hell comes much rejoicing
Angels garbled cries are drowned out by the voicing
of streets thugs, rapists and dealers of drugs
Holding a .9 to St Michaels head – he simply shrugs
Nowhere else to go but to raid into heaven
On that fateful day.. September Eleven
From that point on – all of the dead
Whether good bad or evil – were all lead
Into sanctuary, but what it became in stead
Was a new kind of hell, where they wont remain dead
With nowhere to go they can pillage and burn
Raping angels and saints with little concern…
^REJOICING? lol i dont think so. especially after reading the rest.
this part was where the twist finally STARTED to get touched,but
you stopped short on it. if you would've kept w/this idea from the opener
shit would've been crazzzzzzzzzzy.

^ dont know,but ima have to say Skream shined in here. i mean,there wasnt one part of his verse where his ideas was present the faded. he brought it out from the start,worked it up,then finished it on the same note. as opposed to Def's where his mention of the twist or build up was in the middle. im still shocked how dude said Skream wasnt talking about nothing. was dude even reading?

Vokals
12-02-2007, 09:25 PM
so is that a vote for skream?
i may be retarded but i didnt see who u voted for

-Nr.
12-02-2007, 11:21 PM
yeah i voted for skream.

Australian™
12-03-2007, 01:54 AM
I think DaScribes vote should count at least..a) hes not crew b) he broke it down well enough c) out of 6 votes for me only 1 has been accepted


edit: this was meant to be an edit on the first post

Vokals
12-03-2007, 12:16 PM
stop bitching, most were discounted b.c they were retarded ass votes with no explinations, in ur crew thread u made dascribe was in there, bevol is always voting for u n ur always voting for bevol.. so stfu

Australian™
12-07-2007, 08:20 PM
uppin for votes verses have been in for a while

Australian™
12-10-2007, 07:26 PM
So did DaScribe vote count..? He broke it down fair enough and he's in U.L..I assume you've got to know him a bit and see he's not a d/r

just sayin

R!canTheoryz
12-11-2007, 02:52 AM
Flow: Both Had Nice Flow To They Verse, So Imma Say Tie.
Imagery: Imma Have to Give it to Deff.
Metaphors: None Tie?
Creativity: Slightly Close But Deff.
Complexity: Skream

Overall Vote: Deff, Stayed Consistently On Topic, Good Creativity In Verse, Good Topical Battle Here, Im Not Really A Big Fan Of Topicals But thsi was a Good One.

Australian™
12-11-2007, 03:01 AM
Thanks for the vote 2-2 or 3-2..?

Vokals
12-11-2007, 03:11 AM
3-2..

Australian™
12-12-2007, 04:54 AM
Damn lets get voting done comeon people this has been around for 3 weeks

TakeNotes.
12-20-2007, 09:56 AM
Imagine new life after something fun happens here
The devil vacates to the sun’s atmosphere
Cool bar/opener.
We get a high like our heads up in the stratosphere
Yet theres no addiction to coke, grass, or beer
Alright.
your saddest fears disappear cuz the world is peace
the winds swirl with ease so they don’t disturb the streets
Nice imagery, feelin' this.
the violent crime rate is plotted on a curve of decrease
the urge to be sweet erases the need for nervous police
Nice.
no more surges of weeps from folks who are served wit defeat
success is not decided by wealth yet by the service u preach
Dope bar.
if uve earned it, uve seeked, cuz u deserve what u reap
in this world where all is fair faith determines yo keeps
Ok, wording was bad.
hate, murder, and greed are buried deep in the past
the cheap meets the halfs who meet the steep in the cash
Cool, true.
we grow equal fast cuz theres no giant leap between class
we need what we have and for that we are seemingly glad
Alright.
redeeming the laughs, no more ghastly cries from beatings
nor is there ruptured skin painfully divided by bleeding
Feelin' it..
life isn’t misleading, no lies are stored in our heads
life is a dream so there is no timely course of regret
Cool.
all sex is safe and no more young hymens are forced into shreds
no separation of nation, the word foreign is dead
Alright.
no more enormous heads on top of skin and bones
cuz food is cooked in surplus in kitchens in homes
Flows off, ok bar.
that we all own, one bite and we all grin and moan
the growth of the virus is no longer just postponed
Good bar, flows just off again.
theres a known cure that leaves the blood cleaner than chrome
Oh, addition to the last bar.. It's ok.
no more hunger, no more disease, nor homelessness
when hell freezes over there’ll be no more stress
Cool closer.

..

Conversing with the Devil just below ground level
thinking often of eternal sleep in his coffin
Cos he’s suffering - sick and he’s coughin
Ok w/p.. ok bar.
With mankind in their current state
They don’t need him to decide their fate
Alright.
“The position of Satan has become ceremonial”
With so much hatin’ even own kids and matrimonial
Alright.
They’ve created their own Hell on Earth
Doomed- since their first yell at birth
Cool.
Pregnant women crying, orphaned children dieing
Politicians lying against religion ALL defying
Cool.
A loss for humanity, plunged into insanity
Christianity replaced by human moral vanity
Alright.
with the destruction of hell comes much rejoicing
Angels garbled cries are drowned out by the voicing
Worded bad, but still nice.
of streets thugs, rapists and dealers of drugs
Holding a .9 to St Michaels head – he simply shrugs
Ok.
Nowhere else to go but to raid into heaven
On that fateful day.. September Eleven
Eh.. ok.
From that point on – all of the dead
Whether good bad or evil – were all lead
It's worded wrong and the flows off.
Into sanctuary, but what it became in stead
Was a new kind of hell, where they wont remain dead
Flows off again, bars concept is ok.
With nowhere to go they can pillage and burn
Raping angels and saints with little concern…
Decent imagery.
Its Hell on Earth but its worse up above
In a world devoid of compassion and love
Ok.
You can beg and plead, even get on your knees
But the Devil is gone, and Hell’s in deep freeze…
Good closer.

..

Overall Deff- I think you stayed on topic pretty well, flow got choppy in some places.. more imagery would be nice, but the overall story just felt lacking to me.

Overall Skream- You also stayed on topic well, but I really enjoyed your story. Everything really came together with some nice bars in there I could really imagine.

Nice battle guys, but..

GMVT- Skream.

Australian™
12-20-2007, 09:17 PM
Hes banned but I guess that still counts?

If not 3-2 if so, he broke it down fair enough 3-3

rap_is_real
12-22-2007, 12:29 PM
cohesiveness - tie
storyline complexity - deff
wordplay - deff
multis - skream
metas - deff
enjoyment - skream
overall - skream


By the looks of things deff could have gotten the win just as much as skream, but... there was something lacking in his verse. I can't put my finger on it. It didn't transition well; that's a start... whereas Skreams flowed smoothly start to finish, and there were literally dozens and dozens of multis. Deff's was a good verse, but it was missing something.

win goes to: Skream

Skream
12-27-2007, 09:49 AM
3-4

thanks to yall that voted already. man this battle is long tho.

Australian™
01-23-2008, 01:06 AM
2 months later..comeon fans lets get it!

DunLo
01-24-2008, 04:17 PM
I'll be closing this in 24 hours, whoever has the most posts by then will win....


Peace...

Australian™
01-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Damn DunLo gonna close this soon comeon people lets finish this its been 2 months

H.N.I.CHARGE
01-25-2008, 09:52 PM
battle grade B
punches=skrem
wordplay=skream
meths=skream
struct=skream

overall=skream got this nice battle but I wasn't feelin poker
vote=Skream

Australian™
01-26-2008, 12:30 AM
^an obvious hate vote I'm not counting that, I'll get your proof in a minute

a) He sent me a pm saying your moms a bitch,
b) Those aren't even the topical catas
c) he didn't even read the battle
d) hes an idiot
e) Hes tried to start arguments with me in every thread

DunLo
01-26-2008, 05:32 PM
I'll give this 24 more hours, no more extensions....

Peace....

Australian™
01-26-2008, 07:51 PM
^ Could you drop a vote :D

Skream
01-27-2008, 11:31 AM
^ Could you drop a vote :D

i know right. this has been here soooo long tho. i really didn't think our verses were that long. iono thanks to all the voters who took out the time.

Australian™
01-27-2008, 08:23 PM
I think its 4-3 to you at the moment but this is ridiculous, voters will recieve rep and cash

Bizzle™
01-29-2008, 03:30 AM
SCREAM
your saddest fears disappear cuz the world is peace
the winds swirl with ease so they don’t disturb the streets
the violent crime rate is plotted on a curve of decrease
the urge to be sweet erases the need for nervous police
no more surges of weeps from folks who are served wit defeat
success is not decided by wealth yet by the service u preach
if uve earned it, uve seeked, cuz u deserve what u reap
in this world where all is fair faith determines yo keeps

^^^^this was fukin sick, the imagery can be seen, complex multis were used, it made sense, flow was sexy lol definetly the best bars of that little verse. the rest of your verse was also decent but i think u fell off a little towards the end with some more simplar multis.


POKER

Conversing with the Devil just below ground level
thinking often of eternal sleep in his coffin
Cos he’s suffering - sick and he’s coughin
With mankind in their current state
They don’t need him to decide their fate
“The position of Satan has become ceremonial”
With so much hatin’ even own kids and matrimonial
They’ve created their own Hell on Earth
Doomed- since their first yell at birth
Pregnant women crying, orphaned children dieing
Politicians lying against religion ALL defying
A loss for humanity, plunged into insanity
Christianity replaced by human moral vanity

^^this was deep. u stuck to concept really well, the imagery is perfect, its like it built up from the beginning, wud be a sick audio. saw some nice multis in there. imagery like i said was nice, flow and structure was on point, 2nd verse wasnt as good as ur first tho, but thats every1s flaw, we fall off towards the end lol..still however that first verse got this in the bag for u.



vote: POKER not JOKER lol..

gd battle..sorry not used to voting on topicals

Australian™
01-29-2008, 03:44 AM
^ thanks for the breakdown and vote *repd*

This battle is finally over after nearly 3 months,

4-4
Lets get this finished TONIGHT

Australian™
01-30-2008, 03:04 AM
Comeon people just one more vote, this has been slept on for months, rep and cash to the next voter, whoever they vote for . thanks

Australian™
01-30-2008, 04:01 AM
If I've voted on your battles get back to me on this. Comeon me skream and the mods want this done by tonight , thanks

Australian™
01-31-2008, 01:44 AM
...lets get this done.

Australian™
02-08-2008, 09:39 PM
So is this over and called even??

**InSaNe**
02-18-2008, 11:59 PM
this was a good batttle.... just now had time to vote


storyline - deff
wordplay - deff
multis - skream
metas - deff
enjoyment - skream
overall - deff

great battle you two ..

big ups

Australian™
02-19-2008, 03:17 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH finally, 3 months later ,

Great battle scream, thanks to all that voted

5-4 :D