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Hayzoos 12-01-2007, 02:54 AM Ok, I just got this game for the PC, and it's pretty fuckin confusing with all the server shit, and the controls, especially considering I don't play PC games, so I'm completely lost when it comes to all this shit. If anyonw can direct me to some good strategy guides, or give me tips or whatever, it would be much appreciated.
Intrinzik 12-01-2007, 03:12 AM In the CS theres only a couple things you need to know;
1. You need to know the "battle points" of each map (where both teams meet)
2. Jump and shoot when in a close battle
and theres more buts it late and im lazy
Its really not a hard game once you get the hang of it; I used to play CS alot but my computer just cant handle it anymore. DOD used to be my game though.
Me with a sniper rifle > everyone
SomethingAwfl 12-01-2007, 11:14 AM Another quick tip is when you're low on cash, buy the gun but no extra ammo. If and when you kill someone, press G to drop your weapon, then pick up there's which will most likely be ammo filled.
Another tip, if your new to the game just use the P90, you can't miss. Also when your running towards corners, aim your cross-hair at height level just next to where someone could step out. Then if they do step out, you've got a guaranteed kill since they will still have to aim.
Counter-strike is more about predicting where people are than anything else.
Hayzoos 12-01-2007, 03:53 PM Another tip, if your new to the game just use the P90, you can't miss. Also when your running towards corners, aim your cross-hair at height level just next to where someone could step out. Then if they do step out, you've got a guaranteed kill since they will still have to aim.
Counter-strike is more about predicting where people are than anything else.
Sounds alot like Call of Duty 4.
HipHopGee 12-01-2007, 04:19 PM 90% of people on the game use the M4 & AK-47 for good reason, get good with them guns, they are the best at all ranges, pack a punch, accurate, good for taking out multiple dudes.
Hayzoos 12-01-2007, 04:21 PM I just repped everyone here. Can someone explain all this Server stuff to me though?
D^Coy 12-01-2007, 04:54 PM Sound sound sound!!! Sound is your deadliest weapon.
Pay attention to your radar, especially if friendly fire is on.
Counter-strike is more about predicting where people are than anything else.
Werd.
Never follow. Go where they will go.
Hayzoos 12-01-2007, 05:02 PM Sound sound sound!!! Sound is your deadliest weapon.
Pay attention to your radar, especially if friendly fire is on.
Werd.
Never follow. Go where they will go.
Ya that's another thing I was wondering about, the radar. On the radar, all there really were a couple of T's, and I had no idea what were my team mates, and who were my enemies.
Also, does the game even have a campaign mode, or is it strictly online multiplayer?
D^Coy 12-01-2007, 05:14 PM ^It's strictly online play.
CS:CZ has somewhat a campaign mode, but it doesn't feel anything like the real game.
If you're playing CS, your radar looks like this:
http://www.csnation.net/content/strategy/basic/radar2.JPG
-Blue dots = your teammates
-Flashing blue/yellow dots = your teammates either talking (audio chat or quick chat) or throwing a grenade.
-Blue "T" = your teammate is above you
-Upside-down "T" = your teammate is below you
-Red dot/T = teammate has the bomb (terrorist only)
-Blinking red dot/T = bomb is on the ground (terrorist only)
Hayzoos 12-01-2007, 05:17 PM Are grenades not available in some levels? Cause I never even saw them as an option. And what's with the little shopping cart icon that comes up? Whenever I try to buy something, it does nothing at all.
D^Coy 12-01-2007, 05:30 PM lol, everything cost money, cept for the knife.
To buy something, you've got to be in one of the buy zones (or the shopping cart). Some servers strict the buy zones to t/ct's only. Pressing B in those zones brings up the buy menu. Most of the "good" or longtime cs players have binds and scripts that allow them to buy certain weapons and equipments with the press of a button to quickly buy.
Also, some servers have the ability to restrict certain weapons and items. Some will even go as far as doing a weapons vote (voting whether this or that weapon will be legal). Most of the noob servers restrict the awp, auto, and smoke grenade.
Boomer 12-01-2007, 05:51 PM http://www.csnation.net/
that website has alot of info on it
Wreckin-Eyez 12-01-2007, 07:09 PM Ive been playin this game for 5 years now and im not bored of it lol.......
D^Coy 12-01-2007, 07:29 PM ^lol same here, cept i've been playin it for 4 years (3 years legally).
Wreckin-Eyez 12-02-2007, 07:12 AM you follow the international tourneys? .... mibr won yesterday in the dream hack tourney if u know what im talkin abiout lol.. and if u know the CGS .. the source tourney that pays u $30,000 if u get drafted ... my team placed 2nd in the qualifiers ... if we came first we would of got drafted...
SomethingAwfl 12-02-2007, 11:01 AM Another few tips... I'm not a hardcore player so some people might disagree with me but as far as I know these tips are good
-Don't waste money on Flash or Smoke Grenades
-Don't waste money on the Defusing Kit, for the most part online, you either kill all the terrorists and defuse the bomb with no pressure, or you all get killed.
-Don't waste money on upgraded pistols, spend that extra money on Headshot armor or a Frag Grenade
-That one cheap Sniper rifle, the name escapes me right now, can be a very good weapon if you practice your headshots with it.
Shift 12-03-2007, 12:22 AM I got a question, I really want to play Counter Strike, but I hear the Counter Strike 1.6(?) is better than Counter Strike Source. Hayzoos which one do you have? Or which one do you guys recommend?
Sorry if you guys feel this is a thread jack. Just a small question:$
D^Coy 12-03-2007, 12:34 AM Honestly, IMO 1.6 is MUCH better for competition and if your computer doesn't have a good cpu and/or graphics card. Source is better for looks.
I've tried source (played the beta and i own it) and the hitboxes on it weren't as good as 1.6.
Hayzoos 12-03-2007, 12:49 AM I got a question, I really want to play Counter Strike, but I hear the Counter Strike 1.6(?) is better than Counter Strike Source. Hayzoos which one do you have? Or which one do you guys recommend?
Sorry if you guys feel this is a thread jack. Just a small question:$
I don't really even know, I just went to the Steam website and downloaded Counter Stike. It also came with "Counter Strike Condition Zero"
Alan Johnson 12-03-2007, 02:12 PM You have CS: Source
Another few tips... I'm not a hardcore player so some people might disagree with me but as far as I know these tips are good
-Don't waste money on Flash or Smoke Grenades
-Don't waste money on the Defusing Kit, for the most part online, you either kill all the terrorists and defuse the bomb with no pressure, or you all get killed.
-Don't waste money on upgraded pistols, spend that extra money on Headshot armor or a Frag Grenade
-That one cheap Sniper rifle, the name escapes me right now, can be a very good weapon if you practice your headshots with it.
The Desert Eagle is a WORTHY Buy... it's saved my life so many times... and you typically have enough money to get both pistols and armor/frags
Alan Johnson 12-03-2007, 02:22 PM I recommend Source. Better graphics and game play in my opinion.
Yeah, source is well dodgy for the hitboxes. If you play it loads like I use to, then you'll easily get use to it. Amour is a must. Most of the time I just get amour and then stand near the back when people rush (ready to pick up their guns) :).
Alan Johnson 12-03-2007, 08:37 PM Haha, yep they fall first.
Hayzoos 12-04-2007, 02:36 PM Wow, I just played in my first 32 player match, and saying I got raped is an understatement. I don't think I lasted over a 45 seconds to a minute once. Half the time I spent trying to find what buttons do what, switching back and forth between getting shot in the head and the controls menu. Lol there's so much stuff I need to learn, here's a few questions I have, if you can answer them, I'd appreciate it.
How do you pick up weapons that are laying on the ground?
What are the best guns, or what guns work best in what situations?
What do you do when you run out of ammo?
Why can you only buy new weapons within the first 15 seconds? Is that the same on all servers or levels?
What are some tips on getting more kills, and tips on not getting killed?
What are people saying when they're talking about hacking?Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: And no I don't have source, it's the regular Counter Stike, but the package I bought came with Condition Zero as well.
D^Coy 12-04-2007, 03:13 PM How do you pick up weapons that are laying on the ground?
Hit G on your keyboard to drop your current weapon. If you want to pick up a pistol, drop your current pistol and you'll instantly grab the pistol that's on the ground once you walk over it. Same goes with the primary weapons.
What are the best guns, or what guns work best in what situations?
It all depends on your preference and how well you can aim, and of course each weapon has its pros and cons (example, deagle, or desert eagle, packs a lot of power but carries the least ammo and can only hold 7 bullets at a time).
What do you do when you run out of ammo?
Unless you like to gunho on maps or you've picked up someone's gun that didn't have a lot of ammo, there should be no reason why you should run out of ammo. But if you do, you're pretty much fucked until you find someone else's weapon or you decide to go knife-to-gun.
Why can you only buy new weapons within the first 15 seconds? Is that the same on all servers or levels?
It's to prevent people from nade spamming from their spawn point (e.g. one person throwing smoke nades at double doors on d2 for a minute). Some servers set it to 90 seconds, 1 minute, or whatever. 15 Seconds is the default setting.
What are some tips on getting more kills, and tips on not getting killed?
Practice, practice, practice! Take advice from someone that's been playing for 4 years: you're NOT going to pick up during your first 20-30 games! There's a shit load to be talked about (mainly weaponry and tactics), but you've got to remember that CS is the most tactical teamworking fps out there. One thing you must know that most people don't do is use sound. Don't use surround sound! Use headphones!
What are people saying when they're talking about hacking?
lol...some people joke around, some are serious, and some don't have a clue. Your typical cs hacker is someone that uses either a) aimbot b) wallhacks (see through walls) or c)esp (their map shows them where everyone is). Someone that's been playing for so long and is so good that most of the people on the server consider them as a hacker because of their skill. I've been called that many times.
Oh, and since you've got CZ, you should be playing with the bots (start them on easy lol). Also, here's a good server to get a little better on.
66.225.194.23:27015
It's a headshot only server, meaning only headshots will register, thus the only way to kill someone.
Hayzoos 12-04-2007, 03:28 PM Hit G on your keyboard to drop your current weapon. If you want to pick up a pistol, drop your current pistol and you'll instantly grab the pistol that's on the ground once you walk over it. Same goes with the primary weapons.
It all depends on your preference and how well you can aim, and of course each weapon has its pros and cons (example, deagle, or desert eagle, packs a lot of power but carries the least ammo and can only hold 7 bullets at a time).
Unless you like to gunho on maps or you've picked up someone's gun that didn't have a lot of ammo, there should be no reason why you should run out of ammo. But if you do, you're pretty much fucked until you find someone else's weapon or you decide to go knife-to-gun.
It's to prevent people from nade spamming from their spawn point (e.g. one person throwing smoke nades at double doors on d2 for a minute). Some servers set it to 90 seconds, 1 minute, or whatever. 15 Seconds is the default setting.
Practice, practice, practice! Take advice from someone that's been playing for 4 years: you're NOT going to pick up during your first 20-30 games! There's a shit load to be talked about (mainly weaponry and tactics), but you've got to remember that CS is the most tactical teamworking fps out there. One thing you must know that most people don't do is use sound. Don't use surround sound! Use headphones!
lol...some people joke around, some are serious, and some don't have a clue. Your typical cs hacker is someone that uses either a) aimbot b) wallhacks (see through walls) or c)esp (their map shows them where everyone is). Someone that's been playing for so long and is so good that most of the people on the server consider them as a hacker because of their skill. I've been called that many times.
Oh, and since you've got CZ, you should be playing with the bots (start them on easy lol). Also, here's a good server to get a little better on.
66.225.194.23:27015
It's a headshot only server, meaning only headshots will register, thus the only way to kill someone.
Thanks, I tried to rep you but I gotta spread.
Alan Johnson 12-04-2007, 03:59 PM It all depends on your preference and how well you can aim, and of course each weapon has its pros and cons (example, deagle, or desert eagle, packs a lot of power but carries the least ammo and can only hold 7 bullets at a time).
The Deagle and the P7 or something are the best... Deagle doesn't hold a lot of bullets but if you can accurately hit him twice in the chest or once in the head... it's enough.
I like the M4, MP5 and the Famas. Here is my secret...
Activate your console like so:
Press "~" on your keyboard when in game. If that doesn't bring it up, that means it was disabled. You can either do it in the Steam settings(I think) or right click on the desktop icon of CS. Find the default path which should look like "C:\Blah Blah\Counter-Strike\cstrike.exe".
Change it to "C:\Blah Blah\Counter-Strike\cstrike.exe -console"
Note that there is a space after the "exe".
And type this:
"cl_crosshairscale 9999" - This basically makes your crosshair really small and ideal for targeting head shots and what' not. If anyone says this is hacking, tell them to fuck off... it's using what the developers put into the game to play better.
Not really hacking, and you'll play about 40 times better. Cleaner head shots etc... Using the burst on Famas, aim near the head and you basically got him.
Always silence your M4. It decreases it's power SLIGHTLY but greatly increases chances of them not hearing you and you have much better accuracy/control of your weapon.
It's to prevent people from nade spamming from their spawn point (e.g. one person throwing smoke nades at double doors on d2 for a minute). Some servers set it to 90 seconds, 1 minute, or whatever. 15 Seconds is the default setting.
Yeah you usually can't buy anything 15 seconds after match starts on most servers.
Practice, practice, practice! Take advice from someone that's been playing for 4 years: you're NOT going to pick up during your first 20-30 games! There's a shit load to be talked about (mainly weaponry and tactics), but you've got to remember that CS is the most tactical teamworking fps out there. One thing you must know that most people don't do is use sound. Don't use surround sound! Use headphones!
It's easy to get good at CS Quickly. Just need to be a bit tactical when in maps like De_dust. Helps to learn the map and how the terrorist/ct move. Move with your team... they typically know what they are doing.
Yeah sound thing helps for hearing where the bullets are coming from and foot steps around the corners.
I think that Rainbow Six is the most tactical. But w/e lol...
Oh, and since you've got CZ, you should be playing with the bots (start them on easy lol). Also, here's a good server to get a little better on.
66.225.194.23:27015
It's a headshot only server, meaning only headshots will register, thus the only way to kill someone.
Eh CS CZ kinda sucks though... no point in practicing there. Source is much better and more people play it. But that server sounds fun... i might try.
D^Coy 12-04-2007, 04:59 PM ^lol, he's playing 1.6 and cz, not css. The -console command line and the cl_Crosshairscale script doesn't work in 1.6. You can learn about a lot of scripts here ---> http://www.counter-script.net/index.php?id=90
I recommend NOT playing on De_dust if you're playing 1.6 or cz. It use to be a CAL map, but ever since the new maps were used, d1 has became useless, thus only css players only use it for fun. There's also a lot of glitches and tricks on the map that makes people refuse to even put it on their server. Not only that, but you'll rarely find anyone good on it. And the reason why i say 1.6 is the most tactical fps is because you have to literally earn and buy your weapons, unlike starting off with any one.
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Alan Johnson 12-04-2007, 05:06 PM I thought he was playing source...
Hayzoos 12-04-2007, 05:09 PM This is what I have, the icons on my desktop:
http://i14.tinypic.com/8fdr3hz.png
Alan Johnson 12-04-2007, 05:13 PM yeah i think that's 1.6.
If you have 20$ get CS:Source...
Hayzoos 12-04-2007, 05:18 PM Why would I buy source? Everyone I've talked to have said it sucks and I just bought the regular one for $9.99 on the Steam website. I haven't even learned how to play yet either...
Source is definitely worth the money. I was addicted to it for about two years then we left uni and my CS life ended. :(
D^Coy 12-05-2007, 02:05 AM This is how i see it:
CS:S = great fun, graphics, alright gameplay (for being a 1.6 copy)
1.6 = great fun, new mods everyday, can work on pretty much any computer, extremely competitive, more server, more people
Oh, and here's something to giggle at.
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CPL bonus footage.
And some more...
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Alan Johnson 12-05-2007, 01:52 PM CS:S is still worth the buy... Iceworld is fucking fun!!! way better on CS:S then on 1.6
Big Tymer 12-05-2007, 02:00 PM them videos made me laugh bad lol some mad noobs :)
D^Coy 12-05-2007, 03:14 PM CS:S is still worth the buy... Iceworld is fucking fun!!! way better on CS:S then on 1.6
Err....it's the same exact map on 1.6, just different graphics O_O.
Alan Johnson 12-05-2007, 03:19 PM Err....it's the same exact map on 1.6, just different graphics O_O.
Yeah but A) it's all ice, not wooden guards setup and yes the graphics help TOO much... After playing source, i can't stand playing 1.6.
D^Coy 12-05-2007, 03:40 PM A) it's all ice, not wooden guards setup and yes the graphics help TOO much...
listen....listen very carefully....they're the SAME EXACT MAPS.
The ice block barriers on css are the same as the brick barriers on 1.6, only a different color. The character models on css are actually BIGGER than the ones on 1.6. The recoil has been decreased on all guns, thus easier spraying headshots on source. The characters also keep the same speed as 1.6, but with their drastic size increase, why wouldn't they move faster?
Read up on some info here that talks about WCG finals going up against each other, meaning source vs 1.6 players on the same maps.
My biggest criticism is that Source is, quite simply, much easier to play than 1.6 (which is why you can see top 1.6 teams beating top Source teams at their own game, but the opposite not happening).
http://www.gotfrag.com/css/story/30299/
Alan Johnson 12-05-2007, 04:04 PM ^ What are you retarded? I fucking know that it's the same fucking map. I like the graphics and gameplay 10 times better in source... shut the fuck up with your bitching jesus christ... you never stop.
Big Tymer 12-05-2007, 04:44 PM anyone know any good servers :)?
Hayzoos 12-05-2007, 06:30 PM ^ What are you retarded? I fucking know that it's the same fucking map. I like the graphics and gameplay 10 times better in source... shut the fuck up with your bitching jesus christ... you never stop.
Wow, talk about hypocrisy...
Alan Johnson 12-05-2007, 07:45 PM ^ You too fat ass... go hit the fucking gym you useless waste. Seriously... what a piece of shit.
D^Coy 12-05-2007, 09:01 PM I like the graphics and gameplay 10 times better in source...
So you pretty much like 1.6 with good graphics with bad hitboxes, less recoil, larger models, and slower characters?
gg...looks like you're still stuck on halo, lol.
Alan Johnson 12-05-2007, 09:07 PM Graphics are a lot to me... I don't like pixelated shit.
D^Coy 12-05-2007, 09:50 PM ^graphics =/= good gameplay
e.g. Halo 2 and 3
Alan Johnson 12-05-2007, 09:58 PM 1.6 runs of of half life 1
source runs of 2..
HUGE difference.
D^Coy 12-05-2007, 10:03 PM ^Source runs off of source, lol
Alan Johnson 12-05-2007, 10:13 PM w/e the shit looks better... I like it. I don't mind the small mistake in hit boxes and what not. The graphics can improve game play.
D^Coy 12-05-2007, 10:22 PM The graphics can improve game play.
...
That's like saying the beat of a song improves the way you can rap.
Alan Johnson 12-06-2007, 02:07 PM ^ Not really... well game play may of not been the right word. W/e the word is for me actually enjoying the game...
I think source is better then 1.6 even though they "Fucked it up"
D^Coy 12-07-2007, 05:36 AM YO...THIS IS WHAT WE FUCKIN NEED TO DO....
SOCCER-FUCKIN-JAM
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I forgot all about this fun ass mod...
Alan Johnson 12-07-2007, 10:58 PM Holy shit, what server is that on
D^Coy 12-08-2007, 12:17 AM ^it's a mod. You can find them almost anywhere these days.
http://www.game-monitor.mobi/search.php?search=soccer&type=server&game=cstrike&location=US
Alan Johnson 12-10-2007, 02:37 PM Hmm.... nice!
Bakke 12-14-2007, 01:43 PM ...
That's like saying the beat of a song improves the way you can rap.
Not at all...
Graphics CAN NOT improve game play...
The beat CAN improve the way you rap, because most people flow better on certain type of beats, therefore, they might have an horrible flow on some beats, but can flow perfectly fine on other beats.
Hmm... ignore this.
http://www.zazzle.com/pedobear_seal_of_approval_mug-168875157735415437
Wreckin-Eyez 12-14-2007, 04:25 PM I'd say source is more close to reality ... In source you can't shoot through the walls... but in 1.6 you can...
I prefer source over 1.6 atm..
mlkwasgay 12-15-2007, 12:23 PM ^ What are you retarded?
there you go using the word retarded again 8-)
ALcTraZ 12-15-2007, 02:46 PM Man i used to bunk skooL so much to play this game....brings back old memories...
D^Coy 12-15-2007, 07:20 PM I'd say source is more close to reality ... In source you can't shoot through the walls... but in 1.6 you can...
You say source is more close to reality, yet you can't shoot through walls??
Alan Johnson 12-18-2007, 06:15 PM yeah that made no sense!
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