I use pilot ink and chlorine, simple but effective about 80% Ink 20% Chlorine , stinks like shit though.

What about you guys?

I used to get a base ink and add various stainer powders (depending on the colour) and add a few drops of brake fluid. Literally burns itself into walls.

^ Some people swear by brake fluid, some say it's shit but you seem to know what you're talking about so I'll try it out - I'm planning on getting some tomorrow, would I be able to get it from any auto place e.g supercheap auto

Yeah you should be able to get some from Motor shops, or petrol stations. Only 2 or 3 drops though should do the trick.

I like to add leather dyes to my inks...They usually stain about anything. And DOT3 brake fluid is effective...others haven't really worked much...another good trick is to let your ink sweat a bit(evaporate)...If its alcohol based any way....it will help make it thick and opaque.

I just got some fieblings leather dye today haha keen to try it out, how many drops should I put in? Would it be a good idea to put a few drops of brake fluid in an OTR flow pen, with OTR ink?

OTR ink is actually paint...It may have adverse effects since the brake fluid is corrosive. You can actually add as much dye as you feel necessary...
if i was you i would test a few different ratios....I like about an 80(ink or whatever)/20(dye of your choice) ratio....

^ Cheers, what about hard-to-buff? Is that paint as well?

nope and i love the fuck out of it! add a couple drops of Fish oil...like castor oil...and mix it really well....When it dries if they try to buff it with paint it will seep through the buff. :)

^ Awesome, could I get the same oil out of salmon oil tablets?

i am not sure....havent tried that....i suppose as long as they have the liquid inside it should work. Again make sure you experiment with different ratios. Im out though i gotta work in 3 hours i need some sleep....holla

I need to refill my molotow marker, but have ran out of this stainer shit i had, only needed a couple of drops of it, fuck i wish i remember what it was called....i need some more of that shiiit!!!

^ Is it a T-Tip Blue Molotow? I got one of those its the best colour..

Was it gentian violet? or something weird like that, my friend has a cold sweat OTR which has tar in it..that stains badly and smells like shit

Update for anyone who cares - I got some leather dye, fish oil and brake fluid and artline ink and topped up my hard to buff and it burns into walls I tested it near my house and tried to buff it and it left a scar just an hour afterwards..

nah it aint one of those bro, its a 30ML.

im gonna have to try this fish oil or brake fluid idea.

Go with the brake fluid, just a little bit though its reaaal strong.
I pulled it out on the train today cos there was just these 3 skater teenagers and It not only dripped badly but stunk out the carriage and they all looked over at me..true story!

While im in here I need some advice on popping the guardie - being the guards carriage at the very back of the train, I've done it a few times out of luck but is there a special technique/trick to make it easier?

Yeah fucking oath ill try that, i just want some ink that eats through the buff paint. :)

Nah i dont really ay, i rather bomb/piece the outside of the metal giants. :D

Best way to go at it is like as if you were on a bus. >>> Go hard before you get off!!!!

I just got some fieblings leather dye today haha keen to try it out, how many drops should I put in? Would it be a good idea to put a few drops of brake fluid in an OTR flow pen, with OTR ink?

Fiebings is good shit. Can't top Griffin though.

^ Griffin is hard. I like to add it to Garvey