RITE, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE CLEARLY THINK ETHER WAS BETTER THAN JAY-Z'S SUPERUGLY AND TAKEOVER AND THAT NAS WON THE BATTLE

EVER SINCE ETHER LOOK WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO JAY-Z

WENT ONTO DOING A COLLABORATION WITH BEYONCE, BLUEPRINT 2 WAS VIEWED BY MANY AS PRETTY WHACK

AND NOW HE IS RETIRING SOON

JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT Y'ALL THINK

ether ... good good

ether injured Jay-Z,but Jay-z is looked at as commercial so he would have sunk sooner or later whether ether came out or not

i'll second that^^

Naw.. it didnt kill him... I consider Takeover as a pretty good diss song, and that Ether isnt that much better than it. The Blueprint 1 is a class album.

ether was tight. Nas dissed Jay-Z no doubt... like Wiz said, hell get sunk sooner or later.

Takeover was the better diss overall, but Nas damaged Hova with Ether.

i dont think it affected jay much. listen to the black album

man i say that Ether was 1 of the illest disses ever in the game of hiphop...of course it didnt affect J that much b/c he aint taking it that seriously...Nas got real and showed him what was up...shit old though...i dont think Nas will even say much about J anymore...1

nas killed jay.......but didn't effect his career............black album is dope

im sorry but ether did kill Jay-z's career because of the fact that after that he went down and black album got about 3 good songs on it but maybe thats becasue i listen to the words alot of niggas dont care about the words and say jay is hot because of the beats but in all actuality the lyrics be garbage jay didnt even write that albums lyrics by himself witch makes me lose alot of repect for him and on top of all that after ether he FELL OFF and thats a fact it is also a fact that blueprint 2 sucked and so did blueprint 2.1 and black album barly makes decent like i said its about 3 songs on there that are good
so to answer that question YES ETHER KILLED NOT ONLY JAY-Z AND WON THE BATTLE BUT ALSO DESTROYED HIS CAREER

-1- Hunnit

k......im the last to like jay z.........def not a fan

but the black album is fire.......u saying he didn't write his lyrics then who did.......u just spiting bullshit.......like i said.......im not a jay z fan but damn man

under the sicamore tree, that makes me a more sicker emcee............thats dope.....sorry

Yo'...first off...Jay-Z wrote that hol' album(Black Album) -_-'...

I agree...Ether(Written Song) was better than Super-Ugly(A Freestyle)...

But let's not forget about the song "Blueprint 2"....Jay-Z killed Nas wit some real shyt....some shyt that made you think...and pulled Nas's card extremely hard...

I think "Blueprint 2" was better than Ether...

Ether was Hot, Takeover was Hot, Super Ugly was hot.

2 Disses VS 1 Diss.

Ether hurt him, but vica-versa wih takeover and superugly.

^ Add BluePrint 2 to that as well as MJ said

BP2 diss was hott.....the beat was hot...but i like ether better.....maybe for one fact that nas finished after ether while jigga still throwin lines at nas....sure, nas is droppin lines at jigga, but jigga was still droppin whole songs at nas

i dont think it affected jay much. listen to the black album

i personally think the Black Album aint that good, jay could have done better, matter of fact, he has done better, im not feelin the Black Album that much

Although "Ether" is 10x better than any diss track Jay-Z ever put out, Nas didn't kill Jay-Z's career. This battle should of made both of their careers greater but it didn't. Why do you ask? Well it's not because Nas won, which he easily did, it's because Jay-Z has been on a downward spiral ever since his debut album Reasonable Doubt. Look at the quality of his recent work - it's straight up TRASH. There is no other way to describe it. The lyrics are crap - you all need to come into realization with this. Even Jay-Z himself realizes Jay-Z is wack, that's why now he is re-inventing himself as Shawn Carter. He wants a second shot at it.

He better start writing shit down like he did in his earlier days and start focusing. Bring it back to the streets - forget that gay club shit - it brought him fame and fortune but most hardcore rap listeners don't respect him. Bring back the Jay-Z from Reasonable Doubt - delete Foxy - add some knowledge, and MAYBE then we will see a new head at the thrown. Cause he is certainly capable but not in his current status.

Just my 2 cents.

How did Ether affect Jay-Z's carrer? WTF?

I think the BP2 and the Takeover did more damage to Nas than Ether. I look at Nas a whole nother way after hearing the BP2. While Nas came back with Last Real Nigga Alive, he sounds like he's telling a story about how things started and how Jay was some hoe or somthin. It was tight, but I didn't belive it because its nothin I could look up.

Ether was just some song that you would hear on an uncensored Freestyle Friday on 106 and Park. Same thing with Superugly. I think the Takeover revied Nas, while the BP2 just makes him look like some money hoggin bitch.

Well eveyrone has their opinion, but Ether was more like love tap to Jay-Z's carrer.

I cant belive people dont like Jay-Z's lyrics, his flow and use of imagetry is unmatched by anyone in the game now.

I cant belive people dont like Jay-Z's lyrics, his flow and use of imagetry is unmatched by anyone in the game now.

In what instance did Jay-Z use imagery? Name one track... ANY track. I've never even heard Jay-Z put together a cohesive story telling plot let alone use imagery.

In what instance did Jay-Z use imagery? Name one track... ANY track. I've never even heard Jay-Z put together a cohesive story telling plot let alone use imagery.


Meet The Parents.......Blueprint 2

yea, he right bout that, Meet the Parents was prolly one of the best songs on BP2, along with BP2 diss and ROC............its a shame, ima fan of jigga, but those three songs are like the only songs i listened to, and sometimes Excuse Me Miss for the sound

The BP2 was hot if you cut off like 5 or 6 tracks from it. The Curse was tight, it was just the Gift was kinda shaky.

yea, i liked a couple songs from the Gift, the Curse was better obviously, but still, i think jigga should have just left the double album alone, it just wasn't good enough to be a double album........we'll see how Nas does wit his upcoming double album........

thats some bullshit, ether didnt even bother jay. Like he said, he put out takeover to help nas' career out. Nas wasnt doing shit until hov pointed some shit out. And how long do you think it took Nas to write that song? The shit that jay pointed out about nas career in takeover, which i would say is the best song out of the fued, was funny as hell. You could tell that hov really got underneath nas skin. And how long did it take Jay to spit his verses on that track? Not sure but im thinking about 1hr tops. Nas thinks he is a fucking poet/teacher, whatever the fuck. He contridictes himself so much its pathetic. Nas just needs to take his ass back to africa like he said , "see me with thoughts like that in belly" whatever he says, hes shit is just getting worse. I really liked him until "I KNOW I CAN", i think Nas thinks that he is walking in Rakims footsteps or something. Anyways got one more thing to say, FUCK NAS, JAY RIPPED HIS ASS APART, i mean fuck, Camron tore nas apart.

thats some bullshit, ether didnt even bother jay. Like he said, he put out takeover to help nas' career out. Nas wasnt doing shit until hov pointed some shit out. And how long do you think it took Nas to write that song? The shit that jay pointed out about nas career in takeover, which i would say is the best song out of the fued, was funny as hell. You could tell that hov really got underneath nas skin. And how long did it take Jay to spit his verses on that track? Not sure but im thinking about 1hr tops. Nas thinks he is a fucking poet/teacher, whatever the fuck. He contridictes himself so much its pathetic. Nas just needs to take his ass back to africa like he said , "see me with thoughts like that in belly" whatever he says, hes shit is just getting worse. I really liked him until "I KNOW I CAN", i think Nas thinks that he is walking in Rakims footsteps or something. Anyways got one more thing to say, FUCK NAS, JAY RIPPED HIS ASS APART, i mean fuck, Camron tore nas apart.

Don't let your feelings cloud your judgement. What winner, in the history of humanity, has ever asked for a re-match? Jay-Z lost this battle, and he knows it all too well.

Hell no! If anything, he started getting the GOAT label after the Nas/Jigga beef.

i have to say takeover is the only track Hov needed to drop. Nas is fucking done too. Lets just say that both of them havent fully recovered from the battles. Because everything ive heard from Nas thusfar isnt what he is capable of. I do like that track he spits a story backwords on stillmatic. Other than that, im tired of hearing his fucking whinning track after track. "Nas suck a dick, get the fuck outta here!" - Cam

Simplylifted your a dumb mothafucka! Any true rap fan can clearly see that Nas won the fucking battle period. Nas raps about the ghetto life and preaches about a better tommorrow. What does that homosexual monkey Jay-Z do? He raps about money, bitches, and more recently about the all-around original subject of "LOVE". Jay-Z abandoned his hood and friends with an artificial lifestyle and you dare question that he is better than Nas. Jay-Z isn't hip-hop, he's Hip-Pop. He sings with people like Camron, beyonce, and Freeway. Nas has sung with Dre,Scarface, DMX, Ludacris, Biggie, and shitloads more. Jay-Z is nothing more than a groupie icon. NAS is a real nigga and one of the best Rappers of all time.

Simplylifted your a dumb mothafucka! Any true rap fan can clearly see that Nas won the fucking battle period. Nas raps about the ghetto life and preaches about a better tommorrow. What does that homosexual monkey Jay-Z do? He raps about money, bitches, and more recently about the all-around original subject of "LOVE". Jay-Z abandoned his hood and friends with an artificial lifestyle and you dare question that he is better than Nas. Jay-Z isn't hip-hop, he's Hip-Pop. He sings with people like Camron, beyonce, and Freeway. Nas has sung with Dre,Scarface, DMX, Ludacris, Biggie, and shitloads more. Jay-Z is nothing more than a groupie icon. NAS is a real nigga and one of the best Rappers of all time.

^^Co-sign.

i have to say takeover is the only track Hov needed to drop. Nas is fucking done too. Lets just say that both of them havent fully recovered from the battles. Because everything ive heard from Nas thusfar isnt what he is capable of. I do like that track he spits a story backwords on stillmatic. Other than that, im tired of hearing his fucking whinning track after track. "Nas suck a dick, get the fuck outta here!" - Cam

Recovered from the battles? Nas has released two classic albums and is working on a third one since the beef. What has Jay-Z done since the beef? He has dropped TRASH and announced his retirement + metamorphosis. I'm not sure about who is more Wanksta, Ja Rule or Jay-Z.

^^Gotta point.

All i have to say about all yall nas dick riders is, "I KNOW I CAN"...... get the fuck outta here.... the most commercial song in hip hop from the "street poet" himself. What ablums has he released recently that are "Classics"? Just curious, because i have listened to everyone he has put out since the beef, and i clearly cant point at any of them as a classic album.

All i have to say about all yall nas dick riders is, "I KNOW I CAN"...... get the fuck outta here.... the most commercial song in hip hop from the "street poet" himself. What ablums has he released recently that are "Classics"? Just curious, because i have listened to everyone he has put out since the beef, and i clearly cant point at any of them as a classic album.

In due time they will be classics. Stillmatic and God's Son respectively.

Illmatic is the only clasic ever by Nas. And to be truthful, the beef hurt Nas more than it hurt Jay. Who had more exposure and made more money after that? Who's had more arguable classics, Jay-Z with 3 or Nas with 1 that was way back.

Who made more songs and more big moves after the beef died?....

Exactly.....

Jay, better disses. Don't get me wrong Ether was hot, but it was just personal shit. No lyrical substance at all.

^^ Most ignorant thing I ever heard from you.

Your all forgetting about the "H to the Omo " freestyle nas released before takeover.. "who's jay-z the homo rapper version of Sisqo" enough said..

YO D-illar, WTF Nas only has one classic album? You listen to Takeover too much. "Listen to It Was Written".. that album was hot, and "I am" was just as good. Jay is going to make more money than nas cus for the fact that Jay Appeals more to the commercial crowd like Em does.

Who made more song when the beef was over.. lol.. Nas was too busy dealing with his mother death rather than making music. Who cares who makes more songs after a beef.. The Beef is over, and the crown is back where it belongs! BLOOD OF A SLAVE, HEART OF A KING.

No before i post my opinion, I am gonna let yall know i am a fan of both just so that noone tries to accuse me of dickriding, cause i dont DICKRIDE.

Yes, Nas killed Jay-z with Ether, Takeover was a good diss but if u listen to all the verses only one of them actually gets at Nas majorly, the rest of it is bragging.

But since Jay-Z is such a commercial rapper its obvious people listened to him more then Nas before Stillmatic came out.

Its like the beef with D12 and Royce, not that many people know of Royce around america so they will say D12 wins the beef over Royce, which we know is not true.

The only thing the beef between Nas and Jay did was get Nas back in the spotlight. He developed majorly into the mainstream (not that he wasnt before) and now is played more on MTV and other programs or shows concerning hip hop.

Nas dissed Jay-z with way more personal shit which i believe is more important in a diss track, cause if u diss somebody with just a bunch of punchlines that song could be aimed at anybody, u make disses that are personal they will hurt the other emcee a lot more. The only personal shit Jay-z dissed Nas with his album career which his lines werent entirely true since everyone is entitled to their own opinion and Jay was dissin Nas mainly cause his record sales.
It was Ether vs. Takeover, Stillmatic vs. Blueprint, Nas vs. Jay-z
I dont even bother to mention other disses made by Nas and Jay-z cause they werent as big as Ether or Takeover.

Illmatic is the only clasic ever by Nas. And to be truthful, the beef hurt Nas more than it hurt Jay. Who had more exposure and made more money after that? Who's had more arguable classics, Jay-Z with 3 or Nas with 1 that was way back.

Who made more songs and more big moves after the beef died?....

Exactly.....

Jay, better disses. Don't get me wrong Ether was hot, but it was just personal shit. No lyrical substance at all.

Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic ------> these are classics. If the "Lost Tapes" wer an official "album" per se, it would be a classic as well. Jay-Z has one classic album thus far and that's "Reasonable Doubt."

No lyrical substance? Are you shitting me man? Jay-Z hardly ever spits anything with substance, why do you think he drops 3 albums a year? It's easy to drop stubstance-less albums or TRASH as I like to call them.

Nas has made more moves - he has dropped a lot more MEANINGFUL tracks than Jay-Z has. "Dance" and "Heaven" shit on anything Jay-Z has released for the past 8 years. Jay-Z has just been busy making bitch moves. Re-inventing himself for publicity and shifting to stronger labels since him and his team are so WEAK.

^^ Most ignorant thing I ever heard from you.

Really? I've read worse from him... I cut him some slack cause of his age... it's all good.

Peace

jay got a too big of a arrogance to pay attention to ether, but i certainly think nas' was better and nas is a better mc anywayz