ok name 5 mc's that can fuck wit jay lyrically (LIVING): then name who u think out of the five would actually beat him (u can name more than one)

1. Eminem
2. Royce da 5'9''
3. Beanie Sigel
4. Style p.
5. Cassidy

yo 4 out of 5 would get there ass handed to them but eminem would stand tall against jay win or lose

Eminem
Tupac
Nas
Dr. Dre
DMX

(LIVING) and 50 Cent

Eminem
Nas
Dr. Dre
DMX
50 Cent

There...now it did it right! (5 LIVING)

NAS
EMINEM

Thats all i can think of for now.

What I heard from Lloyd Banks, I reckon he could beat Jay-Z lyrically as well as the others mentioned.

Peace

the only person i think can get wit jigga right now is eminem

50 would get ate lol we know nas can stand up royce could em could sigel would get ate same wit styles

only 1 that can really fuck wit Jigga is Eminem. Nas will give him so go but Jay will. He will make fifty cents more worthless then a penny wit a whole in it. He all ready said it
"I'm about a dollar wut the fuck is fifty cents."-Jay-Z

gotta be either Eminem or Nas, even tho i dont think Jay Z is good at all

Eminem Can stand Up 2 Jigga.Beanie Seigal can.NOBODY in D-Block Can touch Jigga.Dr.Dre Can't(Jay-Z wrote mad of His Shit Newayz).Lets Not talk bout 50 Cuz Jay Kilt him wit 1 Line on da S.Carter Vol.3."-Im about da Dollar wut Tha Fuck is 50 cent"
Nas Deffinatly Can but all ya'll who Sayin Nas Kilt him on ether,Listen 2 Tha Best of Both worlds"-we mastered This,Don't U kno I eat ETHER and Breathe acid,Weak Bastards" Murdered ETHER wit 1 Line?I think so

O shit My Bad Young_twon Said Dat Already bout 50.LOL sup twon.

Jay Z can definately rip nas flawless... and who the fuck is 50 cent......

aint nobodt bigger than jigger .. maybe eminem can put up a good match....

lol better then Jay-Z

1.Eminem
2.Nas
3.Talib Kweli
4.Mos Def
5.Cage
6.Copywrite
and many more i cant think now

^^not all them but some yes and some on same level i think.....

pshhhhhhhhhh

im so ahead of mah time im about tah start another life, look behind yoo im about tah pass ya twice- jigga


haha :D

On some serious shit, nobody not fuckin wit Jay...Thats the truth!

hehe "the truth" yesirree :p sure is da truth... yea... making no sense again.. n e waayzz...

more quotes!!



"yoo said yoo been in it 10, ive been in it 5, smarten up naas// yoo made 4 hours in 10 years, nigga i can divide// thats.. 1 or 2.. lets say 2, so of dem shits was doo// one was naaah, the other was illmatic// thats a one hot album every 10 year average//"
....that shitted on nas....


"im about a dollar wut tha fuck is 50 cents"
... haha didnt even have beef with 50 at that time id otn think, still tite as hell verse lol....

Originally posted by fLiPsTyLe

all ya'll who Sayin Nas Kilt him on ether,Listen 2 Tha Best of Both worlds"-we mastered This,Don't U kno I eat ETHER and Breathe acid,Weak Bastards" Murdered ETHER wit 1 Line?I think so


ohh hell to da fuck yeah :D that line killed ether like some weird chemical that kills ether liek lysol duz bacteria... lol


hey and wut song is dat, gotta get it lol

^^^lol. ima smack you in the face!

^^yea....

50 cant stand upto Jay....

Nas put up a good battle but will loose in the end....

Em will put up an even better battle but...erm...i dunno, if he on top of his game, he got a chance, saying that tho...if Jay on top of his game, he can wipe the floor with Em...

some underground will give him a tough battle but he will eventually win.....


2 words to sum him up: top class

^^^ hell to da fuck yeah



moneyman's smarter than i ever imagined :D

^^thanks...........lol.........:D

im very smart actually.......lol....

by the way, nice sig.....

^^^ lol heh


thanks, i make sigs whenever i get b0red n got nothing at ALL to do lol

^^^huh....


whats that gotta do with anything i said....


lmao....


u high or summit man......lol

Originally posted by MoNeYMan

by the way, nice sig.....



heh answer ya question? :D... i aint high heh

^^lol...i forgot i said that....

hahah whoz high now?

maan how come yur limited to only one pic in ya sig :( o well and only one smiley in posts hmph!!

^^i know.....tight.......

^^ lol... nice sig haha

^^

"thanks, i make sigs whenever i get b0red n got nothing at ALL to do lol"

^^ lmao :D, didnt spittin quik make dat one foe ya'll? heh, i can do better, shoot, gotta keep mah position as master of makin sigs, lol... someone needs to host mah sig cuz noone can see it grrr

^^think some other dude did it.....

u got msn?

umm jea..

i think mine is

jiggaplatinumo@msn.com

i think... iono tho.. i dont really use it... i use aim n shit... heh :D, cuz all mah school friends use aim.. so i really dont mess wit msn.. but yeah.. wuts yur msn.. ill add yoo n stay idle on it or sumfin lol

^^thats cool...ill add ya asap.....

^^ aite.. umm did it work? lol... :p, if nawt gimme urs cuz i have no clue wut mine is

^^ lol moneyman.. have yoo noticed this threads become our lil chatroom lmao..

on the real note

only one guy can really beat jay-z wit no sweat..


me!! :D

^^yea i have.....lmao....

^^ thats some crazy ass shit lol.. oh yeah... wuts your msn? lol.. iono if the one i gave yoo is right, who knoez

nukleus_s@hotmail.com

tlk about free-posting...lol...no-one has noticed tho..

^^ lol yeah.. hmm he somehow got the posts to not show.. i gotta ask him how he did that lol

^^lol.........

^^ damnit.. he wont share it with me.. must be a secret recipe.. ima get that forumula tho.. need to find out how to make the posts dissapear ...... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

^^..LoL.....


*yawn*

o well i got 3 special technicians now, they doing everything for me, forget tha formula *yawn* *layz bak n orders new 3 tech specialists around*

Ah.....my second home....

havent posted here for a while.......lol.....

so... i think 50 is improving gradually lyrically... in a couple years, he could be a challenge.......

lol in a couple of years he'll get shot again and just die... lol :p, in a couple of years jigga will look like cosby.. lol

Ya'll got some fucked up lists I see. And there will never be a time on this earth where 50 could fuck with jigga. There will never be a time where 50 could fuck wit anybody besides Ja Rule...........NEwayz my list is.....

1) Jadakiss (he would murder Jigga)
2) Nas (He proved this before)
3) Canibus (Murder)
4) Beanie Sigel (tho he under tutorship from jigga. The student outclasses the teacher)
5) Nobody else I guess...........

true....probs agree with that shit.....

but it all depends on whos on fire that specific day and whos feeling the battle more....come on, u gotta admit that Jigga would put up a very good challenge against all them....

^^mos def he would put up a good challenge. Thats why he's one of the greatest of all time..............but still on a good day, I feel those people would take him out.......

Originally posted by Kataracks
Ya'll got some fucked up lists I see. And there will never be a time on this earth where 50 could fuck with jigga. There will never be a time where 50 could fuck wit anybody besides Ja Rule...........NEwayz my list is.....

1) Jadakiss (he would murder Jigga)
2) Nas (He proved this before)
3) Canibus (Murder)
4) Beanie Sigel (tho he under tutorship from jigga. The student outclasses the teacher)
5) Nobody else I guess...........

booooooooooooooooo lol


jadakis... naah.. beanie sigel took that nukka... and i still think that beanie is under jigga

ive never felt much from beanie except that one diss tah jadakiss


Nas... pshhhh he tried, and in my opinion really didnt win that one... his flo had good disses, but his whole flo was a juss a buncha lies...

jay-z dissed him wit facts... like said later in supa ugly... and takeover was a summer jam freestyle made into a song.. and nas took forever on that ish


canibus.. heh yeah.. prolly :p

OMG...you guys are unbelievably blind..Nas is lyrically incredible but Jay is inexplicably God-Like...and there's no one else who could fuck with Jay-Z until 2001..when Jay made the biggest mistake in his entire career. What's that mistake u say?...when he put Eminem on "Renegade". EM MURDERED JAY WITHOUT EVEN DISSING HIM. His second verse excelled Jay's 2 Verses with ease so we all know Em is lyrically better than Jay-Z.

Battling...Em would beat Jay, Em's one of the greatest battlers of all time....HERE'S MY LIST

1. Eminem
2. Canibus
3. Jay-Z
4. Cage
5. LL Cool J(He's Nasty in battling)

Em would defeat Jay in a battle that's why he's retiring cause he doesn't want to meet that fate. A BLACK hip hop artists who's been here twice as long as some WHITE guy and getting destroyed...His worst nightmare.

blah.. this is a over rated topic....


alot of people could eat jigga if they hungry enuff

Beanie Sigel
Jadakiss
Xzibit
Jae Hood
Jaz-O

I think Beanie and Xzibit would beat Jay-Z but not eminem

DMX
TUPAC
Nas
Royce da 5'9''
Beanie Sigel

Eminem is better than Jay-Z...listen to their latest..."Blueprint 2"/Blueprint 2.1 vs. "The Eminem Show". Eminem is lightyears ahead of Eminem...the complexity of songs like "Lose Yourself", "8 Mile" "Soul Assassins" against incredible songs like "Meet The Parents" "La La La" and "Blueprint 2" you'll see Eminem is on the way of becoming the GREATEST OF ALL TIME in like 5 more years. SERIOUSLY

At the present time, Eminem would not beat Jigga in a battle.... no way....

Em is elevating while Jigga is stayin on the same spot...Em will eventually be better but that wont be for a while yet...

mostly with em getting jumped by ja rule as i hear..

and mostly since em is mainly retired..

Far as I see it...umm....I don't believe Jay-Z was even tryin on his song "Renegade"...it was a pretty simple song for him....Eminem may have had him on that one track...but I don't believe Em could touch much of his otha tracks. Take in account that Jay neva writes his rhymes...he memorizes all his shit...for that fact alone...he would remain ontop of the game...That's just how I see it.

Memorizing ur rhymes is admirable and even inspiring to aspiring MC's and I ain't saying that that song defined Em's dominance over Jay-Z, I'm just saying that right now, the quality that Jay-Z is delivering(Blueprint 2, S.Carter Mixtape) isn't in the league of (The Eminem Show, Both Green Lantern's Invasion Mixtapes)...seriously.

Also cause Jay memorizes his shit....that is inspirational and also detrimental to him. Yes, the memorization of his verses is a double-edged sword. It helps him collect his rhymes in his brain and just flow, but that same collection usually leads him to creating short 3 to 3 1/2 songs, compared to the carefully and dilligently crafted and composed 5 1/2 to 6 Minute classics songs like..."8 Mile"(Realest Song Since "Juicy") and "Sing For The Moment"(Shows why he IS the WHITE PAC"). But this is a debatable topic, I'm just stating my side.

1.Nas (already proven he can destroy Jay-z and is king of new york)
2.Eminem
3.Canibus
4.DMX
5.Havoc of Mobb Deep

^^ dumb ass list.. cept for Bis..

shut up

dont say its a dumb ass list and not explain why

nah, i dont' have it
sorry

I'd hate to break it do you... Eminem lost MANY battles... and Jay-Z is not better than Nas... or Eminem for that matter... Jay-Z should have died after Reasonable Doubt, b/c everything else was wack

Jadakiss
Xzibit
Jae Hood (maybe)
Jaz-O (was monstrous in Ova and Nothin' freestyle)
Cassidy (maybe)

Scratch...Jae-Hood..lmao @ Xzibit....and especially Jaz-O

Cassidy and Jada-kiss might stick wit him a lil...but Cassidy young, he need more time.

That nigga Cassidy is the biggest recycler in the world. I heard him spit the same verse over 4 different beats and call it 4 different "freestyles". And everybody knows Jay doesn't write, so if you talking about a freestyle battle, there is nobody, I repeat nobody that could stop Jay without a prewritten. But there's a few people that could take him if they write or it's over a beat nawmean?

^^^Negative yo... you need to hear Eyedea...

yo why do so many people dickride Em...god damn!!!!!!! get off his dick..hes nice..but shit ......hes not a white pac......lol (karnage).....

I'd hate to break it do you... Eminem lost MANY battles... and Jay-Z is not better than Nas... or Eminem for that matter... Jay-Z should have died after Reasonable Doubt, b/c everything else was wack

U Sayin Blueprint is wack??! that shit defined hip hop.

Canibus...Nas...

^^Nas.. naw..

Canibus
Jadakiss
Chino
Copywrite
Crooked I
Eyedea

^^ All who might match him imo..

^Nas Yeah...

in a freestyle battle that nigga butch cassidy is ill

you make a nigga die bleedin thats nothin, you make a nigga die breathin thats sayin somethin


nigga that quote was ja rule

oh yeah and.......Nas got jay z.....that nigga slaughtered him with "ether".......em might, 50 prolly could, z-ro would, and x raided would murder him

you make a nigga die bleedin thats nothin, you make a nigga die breathin thats sayin somethin

^^ Jay for whoever Said it wasnt.. Your Only A Customer if i can remember right.....


And you also had a fucked up list.. 50.. Lmmfao.. Go listen to some Hip-Hop....

^^Nas.. maybe..

Canibus
Jadakiss
Chino
Copywrite
Crooked I
Eyedea

^^ All who would kill him..its a fact..

Most of these people say "get off of Em's dick," yet you treat Jay-Z like hes the illest of all time and an ill battler, while he is neither (nice emcee, decent battler)... get off of his dick, and listen to real Hip-Hop...

^^ You're a textcee. What do you know about audio emcees anyway? You're scared to battle me in a live freestyle remember?

^Are you really that lame in the head? Do you think that people who do text dont listen to music and just read text songs? LMMFAO idiot ass little duckin pussy.... get the fuck outta here and stop riding my dick, faggot ass.. u wanna follow me around everywhere, or what? LOL.. its funny, cuz you're all about following me now, but when it was battle time, you didnt want to have anything to do with me :rolleyes: ....gay ass nigga, look like you're about 12 years old and pluck your eyebrows :p dont speak to me...

I don't appreciate little white boys like you calling me a nigga. Coming from your cocksucking lips that's a problem. And fag, I appreciate the compliments you keep giving me. but the fact is that you've never shown your picture on RW because your a 14 year old virgin.


And besides that. I challenged you, and you pussied out. I'll even quote you, "I suck at freestyles"

^lol. Pussiest excuse I ever heard. Especially from someone who calls themselves a lyricist. And you got the nerve to diss Jay-Z?

lol. Jay-Z has never written a single rhyme. All his shit is in his head. You're his exact opposite. Because you can't do anything without typing, and you're completely wack. So next time, show some respect.



Bitch

^Isn't it hard to try to ride both my dick and Jay's at the same time? You're a lot more talented in the art of being a cock jockey than you are at battling :( .. LOL nigga lookin like a fuckin alien or somethin.. i bet Ell was depressed when you asked him to put your hideous face in a sig... fuckin girly ass little pussy.. you should be plucking your eyebrows and focusing on growin some facial hair instead of bein on RW, or just shave your head and glue the hair to your face so that you can finally look over 12 lmmfao.. and your quote was off (i have the convo saved :o ) i said "I dont freestyle," not "I suck at freestyling," so dont try to twist shit, Lamar rotflmao..

and Jay-z is NOT that tight..hes ill, but not a God....

When your balls drop and you overcome your lust for riding dicks, then talk.. 20 year old aint even went through puberty yet :p LOL

^^where's ya picture at again?




oh yeah, you don't have the balls to show them. You wouldn't want people to see your titties and stuff. And besides, why are you judging dudes for anyway? That's extremely suspicious. It kinda confirms what I already suspected of you.

I'm waiting for you to post the conversation btw. I don't know why you keep acting like it's blackmail. Go ahead and post it. I'm reeeally looking forward to it.


But back to the main topic. Pussy textcees have no business in a forum about audio emcees. ESPECIALLY ones who run from freestyle battles, and refuse to do anything that would let the world hear how high pitched his voice is. lol

Maybe the reason why you're claiming to be "untouchable" is because you're a virgin. LMAO




















Bitch :D

^Or because i wont allow homo-thug dickriding TEXTCEES like you to touch me (last time i checked, were about equal in audios dropped :p ) And im not judging you, im just making fun of your childlike face, when you claim to be 20 lmmfao... i mean really, it's obvious you've yet to hit puberty, kid....

Oh and, ask Dae about my voice... it's about as high as your testosterone level.. in other words, Barry White died of jealousy :p LOL.. that's why in the pic on the right, your face looks like a fuckin football with eyes.. lmmfao.. please take the sig off, honestly......

While you're talking, I'm recording something tonight, especially for you. And yet again, you've managed to talk about my looks, but you have YET to show you're face.. ever.


Now let's put together the facts:
TeK is:

Judging men + Refusing to show her pictures + Joining A Crew With NO Females= One pussyass faggot






And don't forget bitch. My challenge is still on. I'll pay for the bill and everything. We can freestyle battle

LMMFAO..i can tell ya gettin upset now....lol.. cmon Arnold, dont get mad.. and go ahead and record an audio diss to me, cuz you know i dont do audio...lol, cuz when i came at you in text, you ran (TWICE!!!).. chill out, football head, before i kick your face through a goal post..

I really have no time for these childish games. If I wanted to hear an asshole speak I would have farted by now. The fact is, I know I get more girls than you. Everybody does. You can say lame ass jokes all day but the bottom line is that I'm sexy enough for your mother. And that's all I really care about.


The fact is, you're bitch made. And you're the biggest hypocrit in the site.


Fact= Tek Has done no audios. He's only a textcee.

Action= He disses Jay-Z.



Fact= TeK is too pussy to show his picture on the net..

Action= He tries to diss people with the balls to show their pic




Fact= TeK pussied out of my freestyle battle challenge

Action= TeK decides to spit bars without me EVER agreeing to battle, and said that I was the one who bitched out. LMAO


The list goes on and on with you.




basically I;m finished. Everything I have to say will be said tonight


:D

I really have no time for these childish games. If I wanted to hear an asshole speak I would have farted by now. The fact is, I know I get more girls than you. Everybody does. You can say lame ass jokes all day but the bottom line is that I'm sexy enough for your mother. And that's all I really care about.

^ever looked in a mirror, Arnold, or at your sig?

Fact= Tek Has done no audios. He's only a textcee.

Action= He disses Jay-Z.

^I forget who i argued this with..i believe it was Fixion.. the fact that I havent posted any audios (which, neither have you) has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread, at all... not even you can be that dumb (though im sure you've been kicked in the head numerous times by people mistaking you for a football).. Because I write lyrics on a rap website, I dont know what good music sounds like? If that's the case, than almost everyone on the site (including your dumb ass) knows nothing about music.. And i dont diss Jay-Z, he makes good music (and ive never said he didnt), but he is by no means the illest out, and he can be easily beaten by some of the underground artists and some commercial..

Fact= TeK is too pussy to show his picture on the net..

Action= He tries to diss people with the balls to show their pic

Firstly, the only balls you have are those in your mouth constantly.. Second, are u gay? Do you want to see my pic? LOL, it's not my fault that you chose to post your alien face on the net.. really, me making fun of your hideous features is YOUR fault..

Fact= TeK pussied out of my freestyle battle challenge

Action= TeK decides to spit bars without me EVER agreeing to battle, and said that I was the one who bitched out. LMAO

^I dont freestlye... this is like Andre Agassi challenging Warren Sapp to a game of tennis.. Sapp doesnt play tennis, so why is he even going to bother with this? AND, if you were just sooo anxious to battle me and hate me sooooo much, then why did you completely pussy out of a battle that i brought to u? Obviously u knew u would lose, and backed out..smh.. cmon Arnold, u can do better

Cassidy
Nas
Jadakiss
Lyod Banks
Ludacris

Man I could be here all day stating everyone who can verbally rape Gay Z. People think he's ill just cause he freestyles his shit? Fuck that! Here the damm list!

KRS One- For obvious reasons.
Eminem- See KRS
Canibus-See KRS
Big Pun- See KRS
Tupac Shakur-See KRS
Biggie Smalls- See KRS
Nas- Already owned him, fuck anyone who says he didn't, Nas fucking obliterated him.
DMX- Also already owned him in a battle before they blew up, its on Allhiphop.
Busta Rhymes- Too fucking crazy for Jay to handle.
Royce Da '5'9"- Just look at his feud with D12, honestly.
Dr Dre- He's been in the game for ages, he's got the experience and lyrical skills to pass it up.
Beastie Boys- Flow is too hardcore for Jay.
Xzibit- Just an overal harsher artist than Jay is.
Jadekiss- More talented than Jay in almost every aspect.
J-Ro- Too damm fast.

And thats just a small portion :(

^^ Lmmfao... i'll take that as a joke..

[QUOTE=Yo Less]Man I could be here all day stating everyone who can verbally rape Gay Z. People think he's ill just cause he freestyles his shit? Fuck that! Here the damm list!

KRS One- NO!
Eminem- About equal
Canibus- Maybe
Big Pun- NO
Tupac Shakur- Pac can't free nor spit punches, but topicals.
Biggie Smalls- About equal
Nas- See Pac
DMX- Jigga beat him in a battle, too.
Busta Rhymes- Busta already has backed off
Royce Da '5'9"- NO
Dr Dre- How's he better than Jay when Jay ghosts for him! LMFAO! That's like saying Jay is better than Jigga.
Beastie Boys- LMFAO! THey're worst than d12. Imagine Jay-Z vs d12.
Xzibit- X my boy, but NO.
Jadekiss- Jada's my boy, but NO.
J-Ro- LMAO. Obviously, you haven't heard "Jigga What" off of Hard Knock Life.


DR DRE?! LMFAO! That list was a joke. Only 3 of those peeps you listed can get at Jay or battle him or be versatile and do topicals. Your list wasn't legitimate at all. You even MISSED a few legends....

1. Vanilla Ice
2. MC Hammer
3. J.J. Fad
4. Salt & Peppa
5. Fresh Prince

Jay-Z is not a battle MC.

D-Illar what you fail to realise is that you can't use your OWN personal opinions to discredit peoples skill. You can't say that Nas couldn't go against Jay in a battle when he's beaten him in a battle already?!?!? That simply defies logic of any kind.

Honestly if your going to criticise something for being so wrong then you can at least do it by using some element of fact. Its laughable how you've completely written off the prospect of a guy like KRS One battling against Jay, You can't just come on here and say "He not on Jay's level because I say so, and I don't think he's on Jays level so he isn't" the whole concept of that doesn't even make sence! How can you back yourself up using your OWN thoughts?

What the fuck do you think you are? a hip hop encyclopedia or something?

KRS One- NO!

KRS One has had a legit battling history, and has rarely (if ever) suffered a defeat throughout his 15 years in the game.... Has Jay won or been in any feuds the magnitude of KRS’s early years? Its just totally ignorant and obviously opinionated to suggest that KRS is not even on Jays level, I mean KRS is literally renouned for being in some true classics, I just cannot comprehend how you can try to incorporate sence into saying a flat out ‘NO’ to the suggestion that KRS and Jay are on the same level at battling considering KRS has taken literally everyone to the flat out extreme that he’s been up against? Your just way out dismissing an established rapper like KRS like that. Instead of trying to construct a sensible post you just tried to disprove everything I said (Using opinion not actual fact).

Eminem- About equal
Tupac Shakur- Pac can't free nor spit punches, but

So Eminem is on Jays level solely based on the fact that YOU deem him that good? Just listen to Renagade with both Eminem and Jay Z and you’ll find its almost impossible to not notice Eminem outshining him on almosts every bar. And have you listened to diss tracks like ‘Nail in the coffin’ and ‘The Sauce’? really tracks like those are some of the illest diss tracks ever made, I can’t think of one Jay Z track on or even around that level…

Mentioning the Freestyling thing again is kind of proving my original point, that you guys rating him based on the fact he freestyles rather than his actual rapping prowess and the quality of his tracks, that’s kind of retarded seeing as the actual quality of a track determines how good a track it is. Whilst the fact that Jay can freestyle is impressive it really has very little to do with how good he is.

I mean listen to a guy like Chuck D, he produces much better tracks than Jay fucking Z does and he doesn’t freestyle his tracks. So whilst its obviously a skillfull thing for Jay to do to freestyle all of his tracks Chuck D is the better rapper because he produces better tracks… Honestly I think its laughable how Jay’s marks pimp him as one of the greatest Hip Hop artists solely based on the fact he can freestyle his tracks, as good as that is, I rate the actual quality of tracks as that is supposedly what defines how good any artist is, its called common sence.

And listen to diss tracks like ‘Hit em up’ or other diss tracks during Pacs feud against Biggie, really, him destroying Jay in a battle is not as out of the equation as your trying to portray it.

Big Pun- NO

Big Pun is a straight up “No”? Man STFU, Big Pun is widely recognised as one of the greatest Hip Hop artists of all time and he could spit like 3 bars in 30 seconds. Jay Z is not on Pun’s level, deal with it. You call my post a joke yet have the audacity to put shit like that there, whatever man.


DR DRE?! LMFAO!

I was refering to him in his early years, I didn’t know that Jay ghostwrites his stuff but just because I didn’t care enough to look into that doesn’t mean you know more about Hip Hop than me.

Royce Da '5'9"- NO

You seem to consider your opinion gospel, really, its not, especially when its not backed up by any logical explanation or fact of any kind. I used the feud with D12 as a basis for Royce producing better tracks than what Jay is capable of overall, why don’t you try and elaborate on that?

Beastie Boys- LMFAO! THey're worst than d12. Imagine Jay-Z vs d12

Why are they worse than D12? Because you say so? I’m willing to admit that was a tad off but I was a big fan of theirs back in the day and I’d personally rather listen to their stuff than an overated popstar like Jay Z any day of the week, but with that being said I just kind of threw their names in there, I knew it would get all the Jay Z marks like you all in a dither and might potentially create a intresting disgussion.

Xzibit- X my boy, but NO.
Jadekiss- Jada's my boy, but NO.

Why no? Because Xzibit and Jadekiss are more technically sound artists than Jay or because you’re a closed minded Jay Z mark?

If Jay Z was on the level that YOU and other blind Jay Z marks deem him to be at then maybe I would’ve constructed my list more carefully, if Jay was as good as YOU think then ‘yes’ my list would be considered a joke. But the fact is he isn’t….

You don’t like me listing guys like Xzibit and Jadekiss as their generally not catagorised as being around Jay’s level? I’m sorry but when he and Nas had their feud neither was Nas, he was just a christian rapper that people liked, but that didn’t stop him completely verbally anihalating Jay.

And lets be honest here, Jay Z is not generally catagorised as being around the same level as Tupac but you’ve still put that you don’t think Pac could take him on? Yet your using Jay’s rapping credibility as a guideline to who can and can’t take him on seemingly?

Don’t get me wrong I think Pac is leagues ahead of Jay I just think you’ve kind of defied yourself.

Also I said my list was a small portion of the people who could own Jay Z in a battle so I don’t know why you think I should go out my way to list every legend just so I can justify an overated piece of shit like Gay Z. You just don’t realise that he isn’t that good, honestly. Like Esocra said, Jay is not a battle MC and his feud with Nas more than proved that.

Oh and NukLeUs, if your head gets any further up Jays ass you’ll be touching his enamel.

The last two list were not legitimate....

They were funny

The last two list were not legitimate....

They were funny


You can say that as many times as you like but it still doesn’t hold any weight…. My list was legit, and Esocra’s at least showed the irony of how overated Gay Z is.

Whats so fucking talented about Gay Z?…. The fact he freestyles his tracks, the fact he was throughly beaten by the vicars son in a battle?

Its funny how the rap fans are supposed to be smarter than the teenboppers yet some of them (as seen in this thread) follow the exact same principles as them.

Yo nigga back the fuck up, name one artist living that better than jay or even on his lvl other than nas. Dont hate nigga, even though we talkin about lyrics and stuff jay is the all around greatest. I mean comon, yea them niggas had the street, and freestyle, but Jay has all that, commercial america, record label, clothing line, vodka, film label, RnB label,Rock label, 3 more clothing lines comin out the rock(benie siegel, and kanye, and rocawear athletics), shoes, FUCK THIS NIGGA IS BUYIN A FUCKIN BASKETBALL TEAM, AND BRINGIN IT TO BROOKLYN! This nigga in every sense is a dynasty. And he came from the bottom to take over the rap game. All them niggas you mentioned aint never had to fill shoes as big as him. Shit he was right on line to take Biggies place. Name me one other artist that has done all this, and has great lyrics, and sell's millions while havin hella street cred. It's the ROCK Nigga! What more can i say?

Oh and NukLeUs, if your head gets any further up Jays ass you’ll be touching his enamel.


^^ Lmao.. if you say so, Kiddo...

I aint even taking you seriously like Illar... i seriously cant..

I mean you tihnk Beastie Boys, DMX, Busta, Dre are better than JayZ... Meh.. your too faggish to even read your posts...

"DR. DRE"
I was refering to him in his early years, I didn’t know that Jay ghostwrites his stuff but just because I didn’t care enough to look into that doesn’t mean you know more about Hip Hop than me.


I'd rather listen to Dr. Dre spit Jay-Z versus than have Jay-Z spit Jay-Z versus.

^^ Lmao.. if you say so, Kiddo...

I aint even taking you seriously like Illar... i seriously cant..

I mean you tihnk Beastie Boys, DMX, Busta, Dre are better than JayZ... Meh.. your too faggish to even read your posts...

NuKLeUs why are you still posting in this thread? Your assaine statements are doing nothing but proving you to be more of a mark and a complete dumbass by the second. Try rationing without making it so blatantly obvious that you’re just a fully blown marking moron.

And just to set the record straight, ‘Yes’ Jay Z is a inferior rapper to Busta Rhymes, Dre,DMX and pretty much everyone else listed. Just because you hold him in higher regard doesn’t mean he is actually that good, especially when its not based on any fact of any kind, and is just totally based on opinion.

If Dr Dre is so much worse than Gay Z then how come his earlier work is better than his recent stuff AKA the stuff that Gay has written … I mean its Dre’s earlier work which established him as a legend in the rap game and if Gay was so much better than him then how come people aren’t commenting on how much he’s improved? (seeing as Gay’s apparently written his stuff) I mean he was bigger in his early days than he is now despite being twice as commertialised. So using Gay Z who is actually producing the worser side of his stuff as an example of how he is better is kind of retarded.

Busta IS better than Gay too, just listen to his work in Jamaica for proof. Much more original creative lyrics, he’s always had a much better more fluid flow than Jay, and Busta isn’t even one of the best in the Carribean, Elephant Man, Everton Blender, Canibus, Ini Kamoze and Beenie Man are all superior rappers. Honestly there are so many rappers that are vasly superior to Jay that’s its laughable to even suggest that’s he’s one of the top tier performers, but you think that DMX is not on Jay’s level so your opinion is just a mute point anyway. Its ignorant to rate Busta based on his recent commertial work as for the most part he’s been forced into working deliberately slow paced R&B tunes and working with talentless female vocalists, but at least none of his recent stuff comes quite as close to being as bad as that “Crazy In love” piece of shit that Jay brought out.

As for DMX not being able to battle him, he’s beaten him already and the article was on Allhiphop.com, idiot. Look how many people have listed him in this thread as being capable of verbally raping Jay(Which he has already done), compare the sales for ‘The Black Album’ to ‘Grand Champ’ nuff said.

I’ve explained the Beatie Boys already so I won’t on account of you being a fucking retard..

Christ common sence ain’t so common huh? You failed a lot of maths in school didn’t ya.

I think this is appropriate…

http://members.inteliport.net/~easye/funny/OWNED.jpg

man everyone gotta be hatin on jay hes not my favorite but i recognize him as best he doesnt depend on gimmics hes diverse metaphorically solid and the true measure of success is record sales seriously thats every rappers goal to make money and jay has never bombed hes been consistently dropping albums every year and consistently goin platinum for like 8 years now

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