View Full Version : Both Sides of the Tupac Bein Alive Theory
Rara Avis 04-09-2003, 02:24 AM this was an article i wrote for the front page of a site i help run....
"ok...i just gotta say that i PERSONALLY believe 2pac is dead
but...some people believe one side others believe another...and...as everybody knows...the only good articles cover both sides of the story and arent biased
Info supporting Tupac being dead:
A lot of people truly believe that Tupac died On September 13, 1996. Below are reasons why he is not alive.
Is Tupac a fake? Is Tupac a cheat? Is Tupac a pussy? NO! Tupac always stressed how he was real, and that he was. The realest wouldn't fake his own death.
Wen Tupac said stuff like, "My time away just made perfection, do you think I'd die?" he wusn't talkinbout his death or anything like that, he was talkin bout other things. 'Pac's music always had hidden messages, that wus how talented he was. In this quote Tupac is talkin bout his time in jail.
If Tupac was alive, Puffy wudnt be as successful as he is now. Tupac wud hav dun sumthin by now. I see in some sites saying Tupac would have killed him, I dont believe that, but he wud hav dun sumthin.
The police sed they did not deny that the leaked Autopsy photo wus in fact Shakur's body even though it was not an official Police or Coroners photo.
The song Changes: Some of Tupac's friends say that he recorded this track but then regreted doing it and never wanted it to be released. If this is true then why did Afeni release it and why would Tupac sit back and watch his mother going against his will.
The Outlawz apparently said that it was recorded back in 1991. If so then why wasn't it released? It's a gd song.
But what I believe is that Tupac NEVER recorded this song. It was loads of words and quotes mixed together by producers hired by Afeni. This has been said by people who know their shit, who have looked at the song in depth. If this is so then Tupac would be very angry that his music is being tampered with so much, and being the kinda guy that spoke his mind, I'm sure he would at least let his mother know that he wasn't happy with it.
He wanted to do more films and become an actor. He told in an interview that he had made enough music and now he wanted to focus on his Acting. He had 3 albums already recorded at the time: Makaveli, Outlaw Immortalz, and One Nation.
Why would Tupac go to all the bother of setting up Makaveli Records, Euphasnia etc. if he was going to fake his death? Plus, he was about to set up his own Political Party and let us know that. He wanted to get deep into acting and produce and direct etc. Tupac knew his life was at it's peak and he had so much plans, he wouldn't throw it all away, especially when he was capable of all of it.
they think that it would be harder for Tupac to cope if he was alive. With all the people who aren't being true to his memory it would really hurt him. Especially the people that he loved. If he was alive right now he would just be back in the distance watching and couldn't do anything about it.
The album, Makaveli Tha Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory has brought a lot of speculation to Tupac fans. Well although Tupac had commissioned this album's cover and beats etc. before he died, that wouldn't stop Death Row Records from tampering with it. I think they inserted clues etc. in various songs to boost sales. In the advertisment for the album it clearly says, "LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY!" So Death Row are telling us to listen very carefully (and discover the clues that the inserted). This may not be true but Tupac is hardly gonna accuse his best friend of his murder at the start of the album. This album is real tight but I hate to think that it was fucked with against his will.
If Tupac was alive he wouldn't let what's going on with his music happen. One time in New York a man was selling Tupac's bootlegs and Tupac beat the crap into him in daylight. What's going on now is 10 times worse. Between all these bootlegs (All the Makavelis), Tupac's mom selling his music to other artists like Master P and Tupac's mom editing and remixing his music (not keeping it original), it's something that Tupac would absoloutly not tolerate. It's obvious Tupac is dead.
On a more factual side, if Tupac was alive that'd mean he hasn't been paying his taxes, because all the profits of his music have been goin to everyone else. Therefore, IF Tupac did reveal that he's alive, he'd go straight to jail for fraud and tax evasion among other things.
Rara Avis 04-09-2003, 02:27 AM Info supporting Tupac being alive:
Everyone seems to have their own opinion as to if Tupac will reappear in the year 2003. If the year comes and goes with no sign, then we should be all able to let him Rest In Peace.
Since fans want excitement and hype, I'm going to give
some theories on why SOME people think Tupac may re-appear in 2003. Take everything for what you will.
The Plot
This whole plot is about making a difference. And to make a difference in this world, you need cash. Pac didn't want to be like every other rapper that talked about making change, he actually wanted to do it. Weeks before his (fake) death, he was holding rallies to get minorities to vote. In his last interview,he talked of having a political party, and you need cash for that. Sure he was making money now (and I believe Pac was getting paid....don't believe everything you read), but you need a lot of money to have a political party. Now Pac is getting that money. Everything he is on, turns to gold. He is making loot now.
You see, I believe Suge and Pac's moms, is in on this too. They staging this little war to make it look real. I also believe Suge and Pac knew Deathrow was going down. Thats why everybody leaving. Nobody is that stupid to not know that the Feds are watching. Suge knew this and he has a plan. He is gonna drop all the blame on David Kenner. Everyone says Suge was just the muscle, and David was
the real head of Deathrow. Even C. Delores Tucker says this. Suge and Pac will hook in the future, I am sure. I also in no way, believe Suge set Pac up.
Why would you drive in the car with a man who will be shot at that many times. And Suge insisted that Pac ride with him. Why would Suge take the chance of being wounded seriously. This is common sense. If you got a hit on someone, don't be standing right next to the guy. These people who would of shot Pac would have to
be thugs, not Marksman. Cops don't even have that good of aim.also believe that Pac letting people know that he was recieving death threats (he brought extra bodyguards with him to the set of Gang Related, and let the director know he was recieving threats.), it could be used as a reason for faking his death.
He can gain sympathy. And if he went to jail for that, you thought the L.A. Riots were bad, and that was over some junkie named Rodney. This is Tupac. He would be a political prisoner, and would be out fast. They let Geromino Pratt out last year. Also Jesse Ventura won Governor, Hulk Hogan plan to run for President in 2000.
The World is changing.
Bad Boy
This one is scary. Could Pac really of had Biggie killed? I hope not, but it is kind of strange how there are 6 gunshots on Bomb First, and you don't hear him dis' Biggie no more in the rest of Don Kulliminati, then 6 months after Tupac died, Biggie died. This would be good on the side of Pac if he wanted to unite the Hip Hop Nation. All that would be standing in his way, would be Puffy, and
without Biggie, Puffy won't have the respect of the East Coast rappers (which is evident today). This makes it easier for Pac to unite everyone. Remember its not about East or West.
Which side are you on?
But as Machiavelli explains,
you can't just defeat your enemies, you must destroy them, give themno chance for retaliation. (Thats just a summary)
Gridlock'd Movie
Why all these damn 7's. When pac and Tim Roth (white guy) ask about sandwiches, the cook points up to the menu. Pac and the guy gaze at the board. (they look at it weird if ya ask me)
Then the camera goes to the menu (they actually highlight
the menu as if it symbolizes something) All the L's on the menu are replaced with upside-down 7's. And you can tell that they are 7's (check it out for yourself)
Then after seeing the picture of Pac and the guy on TV, the cook looks back and Pac and the guy, disappeared.
Gang Related Movie
1) In the beginning of the movie, Pac and Belushi wait in Rm. 7.
2) The bum in the movie, was missing for 7 years.
3) Tupac's badge number is 115(1+1+5=7) Now in what movie or TV show, do you get to see the badge number, or even get to clearly see the badge period. How come we only see Pac's numbers too. Why not Belushi's. Also the slogan of the movie is,
"The Best Place To Hide, Is Behind A Badge."
On the soundtrack, they have this slogan and the badge showing.
Thug Luv
1) Bizzy after his verse and before Pac, says, "He's alive, He alive"
2) Why would they do that? Why would they change their album name to Art Of War. A title of Machiavelli's book. They maybe down with the plot. They know what is up.
I Ain't Mad At Cha & Toss Em Up
1) Why was Ain't Mad At Cha the last video made by Tupac, and he dies in it, then his next video is Toss Em Up, by Makaveli. Then he breaks a mirror(7 years).
2) I believe this was planned. He breaks a mirror for no reason. Unless this shows that he is cursed with having to be in hideout for 7 years, then he gets to come back in 2003.
Don Kulliminati (7 Day Theory)
Who is the producer?
Simon! In the bible, Simon helped Jesus carry the cross.
Who was helping Pac with his burden?
... Suge Knight.
What's Joshua Dream?
Joshua in the Bible, dreamed of Jesus rising from the dead.
Why did Pac have Exit Tupac-Enter Makaveli?
Cause he is a new person. Tupac was killed off, but Makaveli will reappear.
Ambitionz Az A Ridah
"spittin' at adversaries envious and after me, I'd ratha die before they catch me, watch me bleed."
1) Could Pac have been telling us that he would rather die before his enemies get him first?
"When it's time to die and be a man and pick the way you leave, fuck peace and the police"
1) Pac always talks about leaving this world on your own terms. Did he pick his way to leave?
"Payoff the block, evade the cops, cause I know they coming for me. I've been hesitant to reappear, been away for years, now I'm back, my adversaries been reduced to tears, question my methods?"
1) That night in Las Vegas, no one seemed to have seen a damn thing. No matter how bad he wants to put an end to this this Puffy crap, he won't. Its not the right time. When he finally does, his enemies will flee, but many will question his methods and why he faked his death to unite, what he calles the "Nigga Kingdom."
No More Pain
"I dare you niggas to ultrafy, I'll murder that ass, and disappear before the cops come runnin'"
1) Pac got away before the cops came to see what actually took place in Las Vegas.
War Stories
"My Lyrics are Blue prints to money making"
1) He is telling us that what he is explaining in his lyrics are the Blue
Prints, meaning the Plan to making more money, by faking his death.
Aint Hrd to Find
The title is his way of challenging us to find him.
"I heard rumor I died, murdered in cold blood tramatized. Pictures of me in my final stages, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted, Like I no longer existed, mysteriously missing, But I'm worldwide baby, I ain't hard 2 find,"
1) This sound like Las Vegas to me. He was murdered in cold blood, the picture him in the final stage, is that fake autopsy pic, and his mama cried, but its fiction, like a drama movie (dramatized!!!)
"You tried to play me, now homicide is my only payment."
1) Biggie tried to play him, now who is dead?
"Breaking them off on sight, stopping lives on redlights, watch them pause as I pull my strap out my drawers, and get to dumping on their ass, like the last outlaw."
1) Sounds like the night Biggie died. Anyone can plan to kill someone in advance. And a red light would be easy. Your ass will have to stop sometime.
Hail Mary
c says, "run, quick, see, what do we have here now?"
This is what happen when everyone discovered Jesus has risen from the dead. Mary Magaline was the first who discovered Jesus was gone.
2) Prince Ital at the end keeps saying running from the penitenary, which Pac would be doing right now.
3) Check the video out. The tombstone is cracked, and Pac enemies are killed while a guy in jail is enjoying it (Suge Knight is in jail).
4) Okay this might be strecting but while the last of the Outlawz are rapping, listen to that sound that sounds like the wind. Well it actually souns like FATAL. Does it say 7 yearsssssssssss?
5) Also, 5 seconds into the beginning of the song, you hear Tupac in the backgrouns say "and they say....." What is it that he is actually saying?
Blasphemy
1) When the guy in the beginning says, "unless the Lord does return in the next 7 days...." after 7 days, listen for Pac to say, "7 years", and then right after he says this you hear, "don't start that blasphemy", and then again louder. He also starts to say follow me. Why does he say follow me? Cause he will return in 2003.
He will be a leader.
"living by the Nile while the water flow, I'm contemplating thoughts, wondering
which door to go, Brothas getting shot coming back resurrected."
2) He is plottin and wondering where to hide. He says he will get shot and come back. (Year 2003)
"I leave this here and hope God can see my heart is pure, is heaven just another door?"
3) Its like he is asking God's approval, hoping God will see his meaning for faking his death.
Also, this is a quote from a member of that site that i found interesting.
"No He's definately ALIVE
bullshit download a song by Black Haze
his voice sounds the EXACT FUCKING SAME
and i mean its eerie.. nobody has EVER seen black haze in a photo before.. there has been no photos/videos/etc.
NOBODY
come on now hes hiding under Black Haze alias"
Tupac 04-10-2003, 06:52 PM real goodn post rara...
I'll discuss this later...
stevo3161 04-11-2003, 02:05 AM That's good reading..
cr@zyb 04-11-2003, 02:36 PM Black Haze was PAC wannabe hes not real he dont even look like pac ive saw a pic of that fucker he made an album 1 song on that album sounded like FAKE PAC all da others SUCKED didnt even sound like him thats was back in 1998 he just did that to sell units on da cover it showed something that was dissing PAC he was LAME anyway just wanted to set da record straght
here ya go pic of FAKE PAC
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00000AD8W.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
lil_bitch 04-11-2003, 05:07 PM Tu Pac is not dead. so fuck you
stevo3161 04-11-2003, 05:19 PM Originally posted by lil_bitch
Tu Pac is not dead. so fuck you Easy tiger!
stevo3161 04-11-2003, 05:22 PM Originally posted by lil_bitch
Tu Pac is dead. so fuck me Cr@zyb, you may have the last word.:cool:
cr@zyb 04-11-2003, 05:24 PM Originally posted by lil_bitch
Tu Pac is not dead. so fuck you
did i say he was or not and u should chill out and read da facts what how do u know he is or not u bring some proof to say that he anit dead go on
stevo3161 04-11-2003, 05:40 PM Bravo:)
cr@zyb 04-11-2003, 06:39 PM stevo SHHHHHHHHHH and listen u could learn from me one day ok and plz dont quote any of ur crap on this thread aight
lil bitch sorry i was snappy and all that i wasnt beefing or fronting with ya just saying how i felt but may think PAC alive thats great i hope he is alive, most of these people who are posting are hoping and praying that he is but we dont have da facts that hi alive or dead u know
stevo3161 04-11-2003, 07:18 PM You could learn from me. One day, Cr@zyb
cr@zyb 04-12-2003, 05:15 PM dont wanna thanks for da offer stevo
stevo3161 04-12-2003, 05:52 PM But you do. You already did.
Read my Icp diss.
Tupac 04-12-2003, 06:03 PM yo this's a good topic so dont start ya beef in here or I will have 2 close this...
stevo3161 04-13-2003, 03:44 AM Originally posted by Tupac
yo this's a good topic so dont start ya beef in here or I will have 2 close this... Sorry dude.
We'll stop. It'll stop.
cr@zyb 04-13-2003, 06:06 AM tupac actually i was gonna say da same thing
stevo3161 04-13-2003, 06:15 AM Okay then
cr@zyb 04-13-2003, 04:13 PM in da song Blashemy
1. When the guy in the beginning says, unless the lord does return in the next 7 days, after 7 days, listen for Pac to say,"7 years", and then right after he says this you hear, "don't start that blasphemy", and then again louder. He also starts to say follow me.
2. "I'm contemplating thoughts, wondering the thought to go, Brotha getting shot coming back resurrected."
3. "I leave this here and hope God can see my heart is pure, is heaven just another door?"
My Thoughs
1. hmmm is this fake or real? cos at da start someone is talking with voice changer but there are voices in background also
2. will he come back in his words of his songs are there just messages to remember him? we will all find out in this 7 year theory we all hear from PAC Fans is real or not this year
3. "Its like he is asking God's approval, hoping God will see he means good by faking his death" thats what a site said
or is he saying and talking about his thug mansion now on better dayz or is saying about his death will he go to a better place.
welll please post on this i would to hear ur views on this thanks PEACE TO MY PAC
Tupac 04-13-2003, 05:49 PM 1- fake no doubt, I think that part has no clue...
2- this is tha kinda rimes we find in almost all tupac songz...
If he comes back, as I hope so, it would b this year after tha 7 years, ressurected in september 13 2003.
3- nah I think that in here he's just sayin that when he dies, God can c that he was a good man with a good hearth and that everything that he done was 4 his own survival... So god can let him go 2 heaven, just like when he talked about his dead homies that were in heaven waitin 4 him, cause everything they had done was 4 their own good... Normal rime...
stevo3161 04-14-2003, 12:55 AM Nice facts!
cr@zyb 04-14-2003, 05:49 AM well tupac if thats 4 real that he'll come back it will be in 4 months away thats not long, if u was hiding away from da world where would u go, tupac if he was hiding away from da game to get better life do u think he'll come back to da game? i dont think so but music was hes life yes but if he did come back he will only release about one or two albums about where hes been and shit thats gone on then he'll go back to his moive shit and then his record company hope he does come back it wikl SO COOLLLLLLL WO HOOO YO
Tupac 04-14-2003, 07:58 AM I think that if he's alive he's in jamaica or cuba...
Yeah he's gonna return 2 tha game he just get away cause it was a lotta conspiricy 2 kill him and there was a lotta hate back in tha time, cause u just notice the rapstars beef by the press, but u gotta remember that 2pac had real beef, in tha streets, 2... That was the worst cause niggaz nowdayz kill anyone by 2 dollaz. So he get affraid and just back away cause like he us 2 say he was tired of that thug's Life....
He loved the music and tha acting bussiness that was his life, that was what he loved 2 do...
If he really come back on september he will make makaveli records, maybie associated with tha row...
cr@zyb 04-14-2003, 12:26 PM cool cool who knows he could be still working in business as we speak ya know making some HOT! tracks that would be bad WOOOOO HOOOOOOO
Tupac 04-14-2003, 01:34 PM yeah that's what I think 2...
All this new songz could be made by him after 96...
But if he's alive he could change tha beats in tha better dayz cd 4 exemple... 2 much commercial... Not tha 2pac type of beats...
stevo3161 04-14-2003, 08:04 PM I know Pac loves his rap, and I look forward to seeing him again. I want him alive, and I know Pac loves rap, he loved to rap. He loves the rap, and I believe he loved the rap EVEN MORE than Eminem.
My favorite of all time:
1. Eminem
2. 2Pac
The Greatest of all time: (This is the truth) I just kid around about Pac and Em.
1. 2Pac
2. Eminem
Tupac 04-14-2003, 08:08 PM finally u woke up stevo!
stevo3161 04-14-2003, 08:09 PM This is true:
Eminem said in an interview that he isn't better than Pac, and he knows that, not even by a long shot. The words that came out of Eminem's mouth. Eminem, much respect for Pac.
stevo3161 04-14-2003, 08:10 PM Originally posted by Tupac
finally u woke up stevo! I woke up from a deep dream!
stevo3161 04-14-2003, 08:14 PM So, did you think I hate Pac? I was just playing.
From my heart:
I love everything that Pac did, I love everything Pac did for the rap planet.
Tupac 04-14-2003, 08:33 PM me 2...
stevo3161 04-15-2003, 12:35 AM 1. Dear Mama
2. Hit em up
3. Keep ya head up
4. Me against the world
5. 2 of Americaz most wanted
6. How do you want it
7. Hearts of men
8. All eyes on me
9. Until the end of time
10. California Love
stevo3161 04-15-2003, 12:50 AM Eminem even said that he doesn't even match or compare to Pac. He doesn't compare to Pac. No match.
Eminem said nothing but good things about Pac. Em won't be better than Pac, and has said he'll never be better than Pac.
Oh, and about John Cena and The Rock, that again, I was just fooling. They're not close to Pac! (Or close to Eminem)
To name my Top 5 OF ALL TIME:
1. Eminem
2. 2Pac
3. Nas
4. Biggie
5. Dr. Dre
To name THE Top 5 EVER OF ALL TIME: The actual
1. 2Pac
2. Eminem
3. Nas
4. Biggie
5. Dr. Dre
Yea Tupac, I came out of that dream!
stevo3161 04-15-2003, 03:55 AM Hip-hop paved the way, it paved the way for all, all rappers, Eminem and I did talk a small bit about hip-hop, mostly wrestling and etc., Eminem says not he, but 2Pac was, is, and forever will be The King of Hip-Hop.
Personally, I will always love Em's work. (Eminem did it ALL)
Eminem did it all.
2Pac did it all.
Eminem told me 2Pac is his hero. In his own words, "Tupac Shakur is my hero!" Pac, the biggest reason why I got into rap, and why I liked rap, says Eminem. To make him the way he was in rap was because of Pac, mostly, and he mentioned Nas. That's why I made it and done so well, Eminem says to me. Plus, he had his own story. But eventhough, to me, Eminem is the best rhymer that ever lived. Those men were the reason why he loved it so much and why he stayed in it, raps their life, raps them, raps who they are, raps their identity, from 2Pac, when it formed into the first diamond, into the next diamond, that my friends, is Eminem.
As Pac formed as the first diamond, that diamond formed into the next diamond, that's Eminem. 1st diamond: Pac, 2nd diamond: Eminem
Rap was what they lived to their fullest. They lived it to their fullest. They woke up every morning looking forward to it.
EVERY MORNING they woke up looking forward to it! They're the realists! The realist!
Eminem, Pac, Nas, Dre, Snoop, Biggie, They're the real players! They're the realist.
Em is extraordinary. Nobody can spit up shit as good as him! Nobody can spit up shit as good as him! Pac and Eminem's rap are to the point of spiritual insight. And can't forget nas, his as well is to the point of spiritual insight. Nas - Supreme Lyricist
Nas - VERY Spiritual
Icp - VERY Shitty Anus
DJ Jake - Gayest
Tupac Shakur, Eminem, Nas - Spiritual men
All 3 have spiritual in their blood.
Tupac Shakur is the Realist.
Ever Forward
Steven DeCecco
BK_DeMoNiC 04-23-2003, 12:56 PM Till Makaveli returns its all eyes on me
I personally think pac is dead but if he is alive shit then its more killa songs to look foward too. My question is on Pacs greatest hits he has a son titled God Bless Tha Dead
That shit was a biggie tribute....WTF???
cr@zyb 04-23-2003, 03:54 PM it might have been when pac and them where buddies or it could have been song ready for when he dies or some shit remember PAC had lots of song made he was in studio 24/7 365 days year ya know he was that type of artist that wouldn't stop working he was hyped up man one of kind i hope and pray that he is alive it would be so cool see him again
Multiplaxed, 04-23-2003, 06:54 PM Tha's tight, some weird crap, I think he's dead but some strong suggestions he's alive.
cr@zyb 04-24-2003, 07:24 AM hmmmmmmmm yeah kinda
Tupac 04-24-2003, 04:11 PM god bless the death was made in 96', he told: if I die and biggie die after me drop this song...
cr@zyb 04-24-2003, 05:09 PM see told ya theres always explaintion about everything
Adema 04-29-2003, 07:14 PM man dont believe that just cause fake ass tupac said it
That's just some shit he made up he cant back it up or show sources
Pac is dead, and all his new shit is all mixed and shit by his moms, which is fucked up.
cr@zyb 04-30-2003, 05:37 AM always someones got to hate on someone and how does people give a fuck what u think huh? u dont have prove that pac is dead do u what am i gonna believe in fake pics of him lying on table DEAD NO WAY am i gonna believe in PAC dat report shown all over internet NO WAY so u anit got soild shit urself to back up ur claim so next time shut up until u got some shit
Tupac 04-30-2003, 08:52 PM Originally posted by Adema
man dont believe that just cause fake ass tupac said it
That's just some shit he made up he cant back it up or show sources
Pac is dead, and all his new shit is all mixed and shit by his moms, which is fucked up.
First: Dont disrespect me cause I didnt disrespected u.
Second: If u dont want 2 believe it, so dont. That's your problem.
Third: Ask any real pac fan and u'll c what they tell about it.
RED_WOLF 05-17-2003, 04:47 PM word
ThizZuG 05-19-2003, 07:45 AM that woudl be so fuckin crazy... shit would be nuts for the next year... i am about 65/35 on him being alive, (dead/alive) ;) but fuck i would so love to see that shit happen. o ya and that tax thing has me stumped, would there be a way around that one? if he was alive how would he get out of it
Tupacisalive 05-29-2004, 05:31 PM On a more factual side, if Tupac was alive that'd mean he hasn't been paying his taxes, because all the profits of his music have been goin to everyone else. Therefore, IF Tupac did reveal that he's alive, he'd go straight to jail for fraud and tax evasion among other things.
DO YOU THINK HE'S LIVIN IN THE US, HELL NO, HE SOLD ALL HIS PROPERTY OR WUTEVER PROLLY TO HIS MOM OR SOMETIN AND WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND USED AN ALIAS (FOR YOU DUMBASSES THATS ANOTHER NAME) THEREFOR HE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY UNPAID TAXES AND IF HE DID HIS MOM WOULD HANDLE IT.
Tupacisalive 05-29-2004, 05:33 PM [QUOTE=Tupac]First: Dont disrespect me cause I didnt disrespected u.
Second: If u dont want 2 believe it, so dont. That's your problem.
Third: Ask any real pac fan and u'll c what they tell about it.[/QUOTEF
Fuck dude, if you a real Tupac fan you would say he's alive bcause he is. It takes a lot to say someone is alive and produce facts and arguments, it seems to me like you all are takin the easy way out. Pussies.
Makaveli™ 06-19-2004, 10:42 PM Idiot, facts and arguements = PROOF.
You could say he's alive from all your "clues" but their facts and arguements in favour of him being alive, and this works both ways.
Tupacisalive 06-29-2004, 01:57 PM Who was helping Pac with his burden?
... Suge Knight.
What's Joshua Dream?
Joshua in the Bible, dreamed of Jesus rising from the dead.
^Actually thats not true, not the Bible part, I think Tupac is alive and well, personally, but he named it Joshua's Dream because parents of a dying son said that their sons final wish was to meet Tupac in person, when Tupac heard word of this he flew out to Maryland and remained at his side until the boy died, when he returned he named it Joshua's Dream. No disrespect to the alive theories, believe all of them, Tupac I hope you return soon if nothing else.
Tupacisalive 06-29-2004, 02:02 PM Idiot, facts and arguements = PROOF.
You could say he's alive from all your "clues" but their facts and arguements in favour of him being alive, and this works both ways.
Nobody can or has yet to produce any facts what so ever that he's dead, the autopsy photo, fake, the autopsy report, fake, it lies too, the height and weight are wrong. I have said this before and I'll say it again. if you have no evidence that someone is dead, whats that make them??? ALIVE!
Tupacisalive 06-29-2004, 02:04 PM Tu Pac is not dead. so fuck you
AMEN! Keep Preachin man, I got your back.
Tupacisalive 06-29-2004, 02:05 PM did i say he was or not and u should chill out and read da facts what how do u know he is or not u bring some proof to say that he anit dead go on
WHY DON'T YOU FUCKS WHO THINK HE'S DEAD PRODUCE GOOD FACTS THAT HE'S DEAD! I SWEAR, IF YOU COULD PRODUCE SOLID EVIDENCE HE WAS DEAD, I WOULD BELIEVE IT, BUT I HAVE YET TO SEE THAT ANYWHERE, WHICH MAKES ME BELIEVE IT EVEN MORE. THE AUTOPSY PHOTO AND REPORT ARE FAKE. HE'S ALIVE, FUCK ALL YOU HATERS.
Tupacisalive 07-21-2004, 01:15 PM All Of This Is Bullshit, No One Can Produce A Hard 100% Fact That He Is Dead, If You Can't Supply The Facts He's Dead, What Does That Make Him???? Alive...yes!
Tupacisalive 07-21-2004, 01:26 PM Idiot, facts and arguements = PROOF.
You could say he's alive from all your "clues" but their facts and arguements in favour of him being alive, and this works both ways.
DUDE, GIVE ME SOMETIN SOLID TO FEED OFF OF IF HE'S DEAD??? AT FIRST I THOUGHT OH HE HAS AN AUTOPSY REPORT AND PHOTO, HE'S DEAD, BUT THEN I LEARNED IT WAS FAKED!!! AND THE AUTOPSY REPORT LIES WHICH IS ILLEGAL, IT WAS ALL FAKE THE ONLY THING THAT COULD PRODUCE EVIDENCE HE WAS DEAD, HE'S ALIVE. JUST GIVE ME ONE DAMN FACT, THAT IS ACTUALLY REAL AND NOT FAKED, THAT NO ONE MADE UP OR LIED ABOUT THAT HE IS DEAD, AND I WILL BELIEVE YOU, IT WOULD BE FUCKIN RETARTED IF YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE SOMETHING IF THEY HAD EVIDENCE, THE THING IS, NO ONE HAS ANY THEREFOR MEANING HE'S ALIVE. YOU CAN TAKE ME ON IN THE SITUATION, I WILL KILL YOU, I HAVE SO MUCH SHIT BACKING THE FACT THAT TUPAC IS ALIVE I COULD WRITE A BOOK ABOUT IT, AND I WILL SOMEDAY.
JamieF 08-13-2004, 10:54 PM do u also know that there is no proof that he is alive?
there are only facts that suggest he may be alive
im not really sure.
i dont mean this in a bad way. but i hope he is dead. because if he comes back he'll ruin too much shit and he will be seen as a pussy. plus if hes alive and hes lettin all this bullshit commercial 50 cent remix shit come out then hes a dick.
also to the guy who said pac, em, dre, nas, biggie, and dre where his 6 top rappers and the best of all time is a faggot who believes w/e the fuck mtv says. in my opinion nas is greater than pac now. and the only people who say pac is better dont know shit. and just hear "PACS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME" so they start sayin it all the time and start to believe it. while they throw their west side hand signs out actin all gangsta while wearin a backwards cap when their from a farm on arkansas and live with theyre mom and dad and chickens. dre is nowhere NEAR the top TEN. for a starters he dont even write his own shit. and there are rumors he dont produce shit either. i think Nas, AZ, rakim, kweli, proof from d12, and even kanye and eminem are some of the best mcs. altho i dont like eminem because of the racist tapes and his commercialness and exploitation and especially his sudden 'gangsta' image and also the lies and exaggurations. i like infinite and the slim shady ep. their real nice.
but i gues most people here are mtv's dick and are listenging to cassidy and chingy rite now. just ignore me. thanks.
sorry to go kinda off topic.
btw i know im gonna get loadsa hate now. especially people hangin from 2pacs balls who cant see that Nas is at least equal. and id put illmatic over any pac cd, any day, or even most other artists. and im not on nas's dick. hes one of my favorite rappers tho.
if u got a serious problem with this/me then pm me or add me on msn spytz@hotmail.com . i dont go online much tho. so i mite not be on 4 a few dayz.
we should all let the man RIP he got shot end of story ...we all wish he has alive but he aint... listen to his new albums and compare them to his old albums they aint as good as the old ones you know why cuose they are all short lil raps he did from time to time.....his old one had more him rapping instead reapeting the choruse 50 times...he is dead oh well we can't change the past and there are rappers that are better than him right now ...but tupac was really good when he was alive..all we got is his music to remember him by
*MeGsTaR* 07-22-2005, 03:36 PM yo its july 2005 now 2pac ent bak now.....he never will be
SpiT-ShinE 08-22-2005, 12:35 PM the only people who say pac is better dont know shit. and just hear "PACS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME" so they start sayin it all the time and start to believe it. while they throw their west side hand signs out actin all gangsta while wearin a backwards cap when their from a farm on arkansas and live with theyre mom and dad and chickens.
LMFAO...but on da real...i dunt kno wut to believe i juss hope he's still alive....but those facts coould be false and he may be dead...i dunno
...he is...
...DEAD...
...OR MAYBE...
...NAH...
...DEAD...
PinkSpark 08-27-2005, 06:31 PM I'm not sure what to think; Sometimes I think he's alive and sometimes I don't think he is, but one thing for sho he was/is (Who knows)! a great artist...R.I.P. Pac.
nite_fury360 09-04-2005, 09:10 PM okay if tupac died b4 g-unit was put togther then y on the loyal 2 tha game cd on track loyal 2 the game y does tupac say g-unit inthis motha fucka or sumthin like dat n if theses r old recordings explain
McKriss 06-05-2007, 03:36 PM don't be stupid nite_fury. the official (and true) xplanation 2 that is that pac's voice was digitally edited so it would sound like he actually said "G-Unit". Try reading a couple album reviews before u start talkin crazy. Oh, and if you doubt that can actually be done, try talking 2 some people who are in the music scene. You can do absolutely anything with tha proper software and over 300 songs to sample...
R.I.P. 2pac
TheO.G.2Pac 02-16-2008, 02:54 PM tupac is dead he is not alive
Jae Druitt 02-22-2008, 01:28 AM I'am a 2Pac fan and I reckon he is dead as much as hip hop wishes he was alive because we need him in hip hop right now he is dead.
R.I.P 2Pac aka the best rapper ever
Jae Druitt 02-22-2008, 01:30 AM okay if tupac died b4 g-unit was put togther then y on the loyal 2 tha game cd on track loyal 2 the game y does tupac say g-unit inthis motha fucka or sumthin like dat n if theses r old recordings explain
Also there is a rapper called The Realest who sounds like 2Pac they used him to sound like 2Pac on the Terror Squad album
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