who do u think raps more hidden messages or deeper....I will post my thoughts with examples in a sec...

Bis..................... No contest..

^obviously doesn't listen to the uncomercial outkast songz....

hold on..I'll reply..in a sec but if u listen too both(which I do I have to dl most bis stuff though but I have all outkasts cds)..then u should already..know

Andre random verse:


[Andre]
Hello lord, it's me again, I just wanna make to love the whole globe
And all her girlfriends now don't that make ya mind move
Like smoke patterns, me on my way to Saturn wit a bomb
Numb be it view, or Saudi Shawty
I figure before the first gun blast, they know who gone win
Now won't that make us all fools
Like class clowns praying Private Ryan comes round
Sound travels at one thousand, one thirty, feet per second
Niggaz in the street they want it hurry
When niggaz start biting that's when 3000 starts to worry
A little knowledge from the college of wizard Ray Murray
Answer quick do you know what desire is? "Huh?"
Apparently not that's why you get what you got
Now answer this do you know what fire is? "Yeah"
The body of hot, the motivator of pots
Snot, spit, shit are characteristics of release
Ask your niece or nephew, you think we left you
What the future holds in its sweaty palms
Thank I'm finna vom? Ya move like ya mean it she'll cum
Prom night might excite a down right fight like
White blood cell to the common cold rebel
Night gets jealous of day play is no longer
The feelin gets stronger than Ammonia sticks inhale


Bis Random Verse:
Ok its time to get started..
Don't want to but the forces forced me
When it can't category allegory
They translated it for me
U-M-L-O-U-T: Umlaut
That's the reason I bend vowels when I spew from the mouth
Spit threw and out the very grotesque few are best
Burn through vests
Since the university of Budapest
Sitting in a room with a windowless view
Concentrating; looking at you
Freeze frame frozen at the very moment
The wormhole opens
You know Canibus has spoken
The circumference of a third eye so vibrant
To me, Ezekiel's Wheel was just a spare tire
My epithelial genetic fiber was forged in the protoplasmic fires in a black geyser
The explosion can described as a white Iris
When the absolute began, I don't know where I was
I musta just been a piece of micro dust
That's why I the fuck love mics so much
My micro, macro robotic rap flow
The Magna Carta of the entire rap world
Mayflower 2002 Phase 1
Adapt to the press of gravity is laid on my lungs
The theory of communication called cannons
Dissertation with a makeover in camouflage makeup
Light waves bend to the wake of bust
Mics buckle with white knuckles, metacarpals crush
Acid reflux all over your face, you fuck
Grab heart with bare hands,
Squeeze and spray blood
You iller than me? Gimme a call:
W-W-W-N-A-M-I-org
Dear boss,
You mind if I share my thoughts?
Psychotherapy is expensive, can you share my costs?
In a cushioned room with leather doors
Handwriting experts take a look at the letters I draw
Excessive graftedness, there's no space between words
Excessive cross-outs: it must be my nerves
Rhymes that vaporize dis-ablize and destabilize
Pray to God, say Goodbye
Six minutes Vinnie Paz you're on
Lyrically this is the liberty of Liberal Arts


I think Andre is a touch deeper and or they are equal..

When you speak of idiosyncrasies, we have to go with Andre. His music has got to be the most peculiar and unconventional music I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. If you're speaking of hidden messages, you have to go with Bis. Simple. His wordplay is almost unrivaled. We've got to look at songs like Master Thesis and Cirriculum 101. These are just examples I got off jump street, thuogh. I'll give Andre his credit, but in this department Bis got him..

If you think about it, the fact that the greater number of the rap audience can't understand Canibus is a hint to his deepness...

^ Word. Now that dude knows what he's chattin about.

Ummm... what about Vast Aire from Cannibal Ox? Listen to any given track on The Cold Vein album and you will see...

But hidden messages and depth can be apples and oranges... you can have a hidden message and it not be a complicated thought... As for creativity in general, I have to give it to Andre 3000... but as far as I'm concerned, that other cat on Outkast is useless... ATLiens is the only album I like by Outkast (not hearing all of them)...

Now, Cannibal Ox is a beast...

When you speak of idiosyncrasies, we have to go with Andre. His music has got to be the most peculiar and unconventional music I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. If you're speaking of hidden messages, you have to go with Bis. Simple. His wordplay is almost unrivaled. We've got to look at songs like Master Thesis and Cirriculum 101. These are just examples I got off jump street, thuogh. I'll give Andre his credit, but in this department Bis got him..

If you think about it, the fact that the greater number of the rap audience can't understand Canibus is a hint to his deepness...



^^Werd....Cant be said more clearly in my opinion....Pretty deep concept ya got here

agreein' with Damien ... Bis

Now, Cannibal Ox is a beast...


^^Defo right. ANd he got ill beats on top of that.

^^Defo right. ANd he got ill beats on top of that.


I understand both..but I like how andre always has mainstream hits(unlike bis unfortunitly)when he is talking about something else than what u think he is talking about.

"Hello lord, it's me again, I just wanna make to love the whole globe
And all her girlfriends now don't that make ya mind move
Like smoke patterns, me on my way to Saturn wit a bomb"-Andre

^think on that for a sec...