They give Bis a lot of heat because of his battle with LL Cool Jay. A lot of people say he got roasted, but I think that Bis held it down though. "2nd Round Knock Out" was tight. I don't know though, what do ya'll think?

LL won it only because he had to Feed off of Canibus 2nd Round KO. Me personally I dont like a Person that feeds of a Verse to Win Battles... And thats what LL had to do because he Obviously couldnt think of anything to say against Canibus. But Everyone says LL won which he did... But he Had to Feed off Bis to win it though...

I cant Stand LL... Personally!! But I wouldnt try to battle him... LOL.. if I was in the Industry!!

LL won it only because he had to Feed off of Canibus 2nd Round KO. Me personally I dont like a Person that feeds of a Verse to Win Battles... And thats what LL had to do because he Obviously couldnt think of anything to say against Canibus. But Everyone says LL won which he did... But he Had to Feed off Bis to win it though...

I cant Stand LL... Personally!! But I wouldnt try to battle him... LOL.. if I was in the Industry!!

All I can say is that I was obviously listening to different diss tracks than you...

IMO Bis roasted LL, in The ripper strikes back all LL did was say stuff like 'Come on Nigga, you know you watch the show' and tease him about being down with a rapist. Canibus totally fucked him up on 2nd Round KO even though Rip The Jacker was the best diss of the feud (As in superior to The return of Jack the ripper).

People only really rated it from Second Round KO since that one was the main hit, but otherwise Canibus crucified LL Bitch J.

Only bandwagon jumpers and sheep were responsible for LL being the winner, had his album 'Can-I-Bus' not flopped then the outcome would have been very different.

I think that I agree because Canibus came crazy on LL.....
I liked:

"You showin off ya body coz it sells,
and to hide the fact that you ain't got skills,
you mad coz I spit that shit real niggas feel,
while 99% of your fans wear high heels!"


Lol, that is sooooo real to me, I love Canibus for saying that, I think that he held his own against a so-called legend. If everyone jus went off of the skill and we didn't know the details of the beef, then I bet that everyone would say Canibus won that battle, but people do have their honest opinons, i guess.

I think that I agree because Canibus came crazy on LL.....
I liked:

"You showin off ya body coz it sells,
and to hide the fact that you ain't got skills,
you mad coz I spit that shit real niggas feel,
while 99% of your fans wear high heels!"


Lol, that is sooooo real to me, I love Canibus for saying that, I think that he held his own against a so-called legend. If everyone jus went off of the skill and we didn't know the details of the beef, then I bet that everyone would say Canibus won that battle, but people do have their honest opinons, i guess.


Yeah and then LL came back and said 99% of your Fans Dont exist!!

^^ Thats what I meant by LL Feeding off of Canibus Verse.. You obviously heard all of the Bis dis tracks... but missed out on Some LL came out with!! @Yo Less

WTF I had a reply to this thread and the shit got deleted?????

Anyway, Canibus shitted on LL big time. LL's response was co-written/ghost written so fuck him, he gets no props from me. Canibus lyrically is light years beyond the scope of LL.

^^ Thats what I meant by LL Feeding off of Canibus Verse.. You obviously heard all of the Bis dis tracks... but missed out on Some LL came out with!! @Yo Less[/COLOR]

OBVIOULSY? i AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH LL'S VERSES BUT IT WASN'T IMPORTANT TO ME, I DIDN'T FEEL EM..... I LOVE CANIBUS, I EXIST, SO THERFORE THAT DISS HAS NO STANDING.... I THINK THAT LL GOT WHIPPED LIKE A SLAVE....

OBVIOULSY? i AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH LL'S VERSES BUT IT WASN'T IMPORTANT TO ME, I DIDN'T FEEL EM..... I LOVE CANIBUS, I EXIST, SO THERFORE THAT DISS HAS NO STANDING.... I THINK THAT LL GOT WHIPPED LIKE A SLAVE....

You'd be the 1%...

Just playin'. Bis was great. I thought he won... whatever...

I THINK THAT LL GOT WHIPPED LIKE A SLAVE....

no doubt. canibus wiped the floor with "Ladies Love Cool James" ...

The reason why people say LL won is becuase they Judge 2nd round K.O with The Ripper strikes back when really you are suppose to judge it with 4321 and judge Rip the jacker with The Ripper strikes back

I hope that made since to yall

Peace

yea it made sense, i feel u......

Thanks.But as far as the LL n canibus battle goes it was more than just Rip the Jacker vs Jack the ripper. It was Underground vs Mainstream. Real Hip Hop Vs Commerical. And weather people know it or not. When they vote on battles like this (or Nas vs Jay,Joe Buddens VS. g-Unit) its nothing more than a popularity contest.

Thanks.But as far as the LL n canibus battle goes it was more than just Rip the Jacker vs Jack the ripper. It was Underground vs Mainstream. Real Hip Hop Vs Commerical. And weather people know it or not. When they vote on battles like this (or Nas vs Jay,Joe Buddens VS. g-Unit) its nothing more than a popularity contest.

I don't know if I agree with that. LL was the more popular MC yet he still lost in the voting on a New York City radio station which is LL's home town. Jay vs Nas ... the people voted ... the better lyracist prevailed ... not the more popular one.

that's interesting ^...................

Yeah on radio stations it prolly came up that BIS won..but when you ask overall Hip Hop artist and other fans nowadays the win goes to LL...Its sad and if you dont believe me look at TV and you will prolly see LL on a commerical with Run DMC rapping. its crazy

It was clear to everyone who knows hiphop that LL won. Bis is more lyrical than LL but LL just don't lose battles ....that's fact. When someone disses you, you are suppose to respond to those accusations. So you Bis fans constantly crying over spilled milk is a way of admitting defeat. If you lose then you lose, stop making excuses for Bis. And ya'll act like LL flipped every line from Bis. I heard every dis and LL addressed no more than 5 of Bis accusations. So what's the deal?? They both ripped each other but LL just simply and clearly got the best of Bis ......peace

Honestly, i'm a canibus fan, and i can admit that he supposedley lost, if there was a chart that scored and that had a talley of the impact of the disses givin.. yet, this explains why Bis won to me, no matter what LL says.. this was the realist shit said in the battle, and to me outwieghed all the other accusations..

"You only showin off your body coz it sells
plus to avoid the fact that you ain't got skills
mad coz i spit that shit real niggas feel
while 99% of your fans where high heels"

lol, i love that shit.. nuff said^

"You only showin off your body coz it sells
plus to avoid the fact that you ain't got skills
mad coz i spit that shit real niggas feel
while 99% of your fans where high heels"

lol, i love that shit.. nuff said^I agree wit you bro, those lines are classic. But don't forget L had some classic lines too. It doesn't matter what LL said... by being a Bis fan, your already biased toward Bis. Let's be honest. It's a popularity contest, but that's cool. When L told Bis, "Ask Canibus he ain't understandin this, cause 99% of his fans don't exits" .....what made that so cold-blooded and raw was because ....it was simply true.

"Call the paramedics, and tell'em that he's pathetic
his lyrics ain't energic, they're sweet as a diabetic
career will be over next year yea I said it
look over your shoulder n*gga that's where your headed
muthaf*cka where's a rhyme when you need it??
first rule of lyrical war never repeat it"

.... Bis got jacked-up and that's that. L predicted Bis career to be finished in 1 year and guess what ....Bis career was finished in 1 year ....peace

"You only showin off your body coz it sells
plus to avoid the fact that you ain't got skills
mad coz i spit that shit real niggas feel
while 99% of your fans where high heels"

lol, i love that shit.. nuff said^
If someone keystyled that, everyone would think they were wack. Even though the "99% of your fans" thing was memorable, how hard could it have been to think up?

to tell u the truth canibus had the battle won but it was blu up 4 ll

I agree wit you bro, those lines are classic. But don't forget L had some classic lines too. It doesn't matter what LL said... by being a Bis fan, your already biased toward Bis. Let's be honest. It's a popularity contest, but that's cool. When L told Bis, "Ask Canibus he ain't understandin this, cause 99% of his fans don't exits" .....what made that so cold-blooded and raw was because ....it was simply true.

"Call the paramedics, and tell'em that he's pathetic
his lyrics ain't energic, they're sweet as a diabetic
career will be over next year yea I said it
look over your shoulder n*gga that's where your headed
muthaf*cka where's a rhyme when you need it??
first rule of lyrical war never repeat it"

.... Bis got jacked-up and that's that. L predicted Bis career to be finished in 1 year and guess what ....Bis career was finished in 1 year ....peace

If I was ignorant to the stucture of Hip Hop, i might agree, yet, you fail to realize that Bis has gained fame only because of that battle.. Wyclef fucked his beats off and his career should of been over from that, but no.. you're right, a year after that, Bis fell off.. Yet every magazine, website, etc... that I read, gives RTJ (his latest CD) atleast four stars, and i said atleast. It's also went gold and going Gold is concidered success.. Only when you go platinum and up is when you're lyrics leave the black community.. Acually his career is starting to pick up.. hE'S comin out with anothr bangin album too, plus he roasted Em on a 6 min. track. read the details here, Bis is the greatest

http://www.geocities.com/canibusblackazn

canibus beat him wit 2nd round knokout was to sick 4 54321

RIP THE JACKER END OF STORY

-Calling all dogs, calling all dogs
Be on the look out for a big homo nigga with dimples
And I'ma let y'all know somethin', it ain't just start here
We've been preyin' on that ass since "Jack the Ripper"
And now its time to rip it to the jacker

(ahhhhhhhhhhh .....)

[Verse 1]
No rapper could rap quite like I can
You know who the fuck I am, I'm the canibus man
I had to rock to a beat like this to show you
That I'm iller then the future, the present, and the old you
I told you, wish you could take it all back don't you
Tried to smoke some canibus but canibus smoked you
Calling yourself the greatest is something you don't do
Cause after I humiliate you what will the G.O.A.T. do
You can't rap or act my main man
You goin' end up as an intern working for Def Jam
See you was never bad enough to battle with Canibus
You out of luck, I crushed you the minute I got tatted up
And every lie you told just added up cause you wasn't man enough
To be fair, but I'm mad a fuck and I've had enough
Jack the ripper or I'ma rip the jacker
Rape a rapper with a classic from his own masters
You're dead

[Verse 2]
There's a rumor going around that I got dropped
200,000 albums sold at 10 dollars a pop
300,000 albums were shipped, you do the math
Thats 3 million in 3 months so kiss my ass
All these magazines tried to steamroll me to death
Guess what, the G.O.A.T. ain't platinum and neither is 'Clef
And I'm still here, inspite of all that shit them niggaz said
The skinny kid, the music industry's guinea pig
Tighter then ever, world's chief mic recka
Tougher then reverend run's muthafuckin' leatha
I'm hardcore, cum shot right in your wife's face
You soft porn, you held hands on the first date
See when you was making records like I need love
Your homie Cornell was givin' it to you up the butt
Plus I heard Simone was the high school slut
And she learned how to fuck before she knew how to cuss
Nigga you're dead

[Verse 3]
You married a slut and had kids with her to cover up your hustle
You and your man Russell made a better couple
Your probably mad as fuck, wondering where I got the information from
Your being watched even when you take a dump
Its impossible to front, you can't hide
The chairs at your label got ears and the walls got eyes
Your living one big lie the world just don't know
You take a polygraph test that shit would probably explode
The truth is mr. smith you got a fucked up attitude
God knows that I pitty your fans for backing you
Yo, this be the realest shit I ever wrote
You should change your muthafuckin' name from G.O.A.T. to G.L.O.A.T.
The Greatest Liar Of All Time that cannot rhyme
That cannot shine as long as I'm alive
Your prime ended 8 months before '99
And that microphone on your arm will always be mine
Nigga you're dead

[Verse 4]
I told you to leave it alone, but you was too stubborn
Now your in a world where the hunter becomes the hunted
Your wife is scared cause she don't want to lose a husband
And somebody keeps paging you putting 4321 in
You can't sleep at night thinking about the drama
Shit stains all up in your phat farm pijamas
Even f.u.b.u. gear looks hot until it touches you
Probably because your father undoubtedly butt-fucked you
Mama said knock who out? I'll punch that bitch in the mouth
Cause she don't know what she talking about
Ay yo, do me a favor when you see your ghostwriters
Tell them the rhymes they wrote for you should have been a lot tighter
You could have asked me, I'll write you some lines
I'll do anything for the greatest loser of all time
You still drippin' with wack juice 'cause you wack nigga
If you want the last word you can have it, I'm still iller
You're dead

just foe yall- Bis fuck*n smoked LL like a joint...

much respect

^^^ I hated that song.

^^i didnt...

Ay yo, do me a favor when you see your ghostwriters
Tell them the rhymes they wrote for you should have been a lot tighter
You could have asked me, I'll write you some lines
I'll do anything for the greatest loser of all time
You still drippin' with wack juice 'cause you wack nigga
If you want the last word you can have it, I'm still iller

Now THAT is what you call a punchline.

I sense a Canibus hater,lyrics are too tight so you gotta hate apollo...your opinion though...you missin out but I think you just don't understand pound for pound lyrics LL got Slayed and so will Em...you'll see and then if signs to the roc, every who don't know(you and other stans)will then'll ridin just how peeps was on Ja but when 50 came out it was all about -fuck Ja,50 hot!!!,50 just said Ja a wangsta that must be tru cuz 50 sayin' it...LL got exposed and so will Em then we'll see who the Canibus D*ckriders are.

I sense a Canibus hater,lyrics are too tight so you gotta hate apollo...your opinion though...you missin out but I think you just don't understand pound for pound lyrics LL got Slayed and so will Em...you'll see and then if signs to the roc, every who don't know(you and other stans)will then'll ridin just how peeps was on Ja but when 50 came out it was all about -fuck Ja,50 hot!!!,50 just said Ja a wangsta that must be tru cuz 50 sayin' it...LL got exposed and so will Em then we'll see who the Canibus D*ckriders are.Ummm, what are you talking about? "Rip the Jacker" was a cover of an already bad song (it was probably better, though), and how can you even give it recognition lyrically? Calling someone the Greatest Loser Of All Time is hardly something I consider witty or noteworthy. Personally, I think Bis drops his best battle raps when he hasn't got any particular opponent.

Ummm, what are you talking about? "Rip the Jacker" was a cover of an already bad song (it was probably better, though), and how can you even give it recognition lyrically? Calling someone the Greatest Loser Of All Time is hardly something I consider witty or noteworthy. Personally, I think Bis drops his best battle raps when he hasn't got any particular opponent.

It is actually funny when you consider the irony of how LL constantly calls himself the GOAT… If you don’t perceive that as a good diss, then honestly, quote me a witty line from a artist who you think can actually “diss”. Cause your probably the only person in the world who thinks that.

That's obviously something that can be targeted, but calling him the Greatest Loser/Liar Of All Time AND adding a letter to it killed off any potential it had.

Okaaaay...

[Dr Dre]
"This little nigga, Ja Rule
Talking bout he's gonna slap me. Nigga please
You gotta jump and swing up to hit me in the knees"

[Esoteric]
Let's begin, I know you saw my battle with Jin
That's why you ran like the wind and jumped out of your skin
You weren't sayin' "Fuck Soundcheck"
You was sayin' "fuck the whole set! Cage, c'mon, dawg, we gotta jet!"

&

You handlin' glocks? This is where the fantasy stops
What, you thought I forgot you run with Cannibal Ox?
("I can't even watch!") you scared to bust like amateur cops

[Nas]
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please

[Eminem]
Slap my mom, slap the fuck out of her
She can't sue you, she wouldn't get a buck out of you
Cause your broke as fuck, you suck
You're a fucking joke , if u was really selling coke
Well then what the fuck you stop for, dummy?
If you slew some crack
You'd make alot more money than you do from rap!

&

You a, "Black Jesus," heart attack, seizures
Too many cheeseburgers; McDonald's Big Mac greases
White devil, washed up honkey
Mixed up cracker who crossed over to country

[Canibus] (Not a diss track, but...)
Yo, whoever grabs the mic after me'll get booed, and get everything
In the club thrown at you and your crew.
From moette bottles to bar stools, fruits and foods,
If you got an album out, you get hit with your CD too.
Runnin' outside, lying, crying, denying that you ain't
The Gay Rapper, but you got fucked by him.

[Jay-Z]
I don't care if you Mobb Deep, I hold triggers to crews
You little FUCK, I've got money stacks bigger than you
When I was pushin weight, back in eighty-eight
you was a ballerina I got your pictures, I seen ya

[DJ Quik]
Givin your set a bad name wit your misspelled name
E-i-h-t, now should i continue
Yeah you left out the g cause the g ain't in you

[Royce da 5'9'']
And I don't like Proof, punk-ass, he think he tough
He keep thirty niggaz with him, cause he weak as fuck!
I ever catch you by yourself, I'ma fuck you up
Snatch your little cheap-ass chain and piece you up
You better hope you and the white boy keep in touch
And be a good little hype man, or your lease is up
Since Slim signed 50, I don't see your teeth as much
That's good, cause you got a grill like a fuckin truck!
DAMN HOMIE, it's history, over, hang it up
Go somewhere and hang up some 50 posters, PUNK
You speak too late, y'all prolly gon' go up to them awards
and get yo' ass whooped by B2K

2nd round ko was crazy, but LL came back hungry on his track. LL has got more years in the game so he gets the credibility over the rookie canibuis. it was close, but personaly i go wit canibuis. hell i still listen to the track by him

That's obviously something that can be targeted, but calling him the Greatest Loser/Liar Of All Time AND adding a letter to it killed off any potential it had.

Okaaaay...


In your Canibus quote, you spelled "Moet" wrong, it's "Moet" Champaign..
But you're just a Stan, Bis is the greatest battle rapper ever, he ripped LL and will do so to Eminem also, when ever he feels like it. But You go from Canibus topic to Canibus Topic hating on him, you should get a life and chill, he'll always be iller than you or your favorite MC, just get a life..

Cannibus killed LL. Aint no one Cannibus couldnt kill.

Canibis Killed Him No ? Shit!

Nothing but pure facts... LL Cool J aka "Jack the Ripper" has a long history of killing mcs and ending their careers. Canibus career was unfortunately cut short by Jack the Ripper. The "overlord of rap" is still undefeated in lyrical battles while "the nastiest kid to ever rock the mic" is ridiculed by everyone in the industry ....Canibus is broke and still a joke cause 99% of Bis fans are from the internet .....peace

In your Canibus quote, you spelled "Moet" wrong, it's "Moet" Champaign..
But you're just a Stan, Bis is the greatest battle rapper ever, he ripped LL and will do so to Eminem also, when ever he feels like it. But You go from Canibus topic to Canibus Topic hating on him, you should get a life and chill, he'll always be iller than you or your favorite MC, just get a life..
If you truely beleive what you just wrote, then your the biggest stan of them all. You can't ignore the fact that Canibus has been ripped by sooooo many mcs, it's a joke. Still in denial?? How bout I name a few... LL, Eminem, Face, Truck Turner... and I can name a lot more. Almost all in the industry agree that LL and Eminem embarrassed Canibus ....sorry but that's pure fact

In your Canibus quote, you spelled "Moet" wrong, it's "Moet" Champaign..You think I typed those lyrics? In any case, it sounds French, and most French words have masculine and feminine versions.

But you're just a Stan, Bis is the greatest battle rapper ever,You must be joking.

he ripped LLYeah, but with Second Round KO.

and will do so to Eminem also, when ever he feels like it.Which will be never. If Eminem dropped a "Nail in the Coffin" on Canibus, I seriously do not see Bis winning. You, my friend, are a Canibus dickrider. Sorry.

But You go from Canibus topic to Canibus Topic hating on him, you should get a life and chill, he'll always be iller than you or your favorite MC, just get a life..Nope, not really. He isn't as ill as his groupies make out, though he is a very competent emcee. I like him for the same reason I like Royce, really. Just his earnesty, lyrical dexterity and the mood his songs convey, rather than judging them strictly based on their lyrical content. Also, knowing the influences and imagining what was going through his mind when he wrote songs like "How Many Emcees" or "Phuk U". That's what makes Bis a great emcee for me, but if you think he's the "greatest battle rapper of all time" or even touches on the lyrical complexity of the MMLP, then you're a fucking moron.

canibus i think won

Cannibus killed LL. Aint no one Cannibus couldnt kill.

u right about that

ll cool j, really won, cuz he asked bis to battle face to face and bis backed down

but bis wouldnt ripped him and thatd be dope

ll cool j, really won, cuz he asked bis to battle face to face and bis backed down

but bis wouldnt ripped him and thatd be dope
^^^ absolutely true.. during the pinnacle of the battle... not only did LL lyrically crush Wyclef on "Rasta Impasta", he also called-out Bis many times but Bis dissappeared....

i actually think tha LL does have some hot lines and is pretty good...but Bis would trash on him...but I thought that Bis could have came a lot harder than that(2nd round knockout). He could have used hotter punches and shit but fuck it I guess...I was feling thte overall track though..i thought the beat and shit was pretty hot....

LL shit was pretty tight but yea he had the advantage of dissing/feeding off of Buses verse....so I would say Bis ripped....cause lyrically bis could knocke off almost everyone...

Canibus won...but cassidy will beat anyone....j/k

Canibus would Slay Cassidy but that's your opinion I can respect that,it would be a good battle but bis comes out on top.

There ain't no mainsteam rapper alive who could take on Canibus. Underground maybe? I dunno.

Whoever said LL won the battle is a fool. Just listen to Second Round KO & Rip The Jacker.

2nd Round KO murdered it, LL's diss was playground stuff

i think ll won even know canibus was iller and probly deserved 2 win

Now THAT is what you call a punchline.


T'YA THINK!

I Thought dat woz 1 of da worst parts of da song. its NOt really a punch line. ders much betta 1s in dat song

Canibus is better, and I think he won with LL Cool J.....
He has done alot better stuff, and is the best lyricist, whne he puts his mind into it:
Poet Laurette II
Channel Zero
Chaos
100 Bars
Liberal Art's

Immortal Technique is the best battle rapper though....
With Jin also being good (shame he cant write good songs....)

Hell yea^, i love immortal tech!! I saw him rip the shit outta Diabolic, but he lost to Eyedea, though he held it down there too.. I like that song
"Dance With The Devil"

[QUOTE=Tw!stEd]Immortal Technique is the best battle rapper though....[QUOTE]

Do you think he could take Canibus?

^^YES!^^

Dis is some lines from just ONE of techs FREESTYLE Battles


"da only prodgects u seen was at ya high school science fair"

"if u sucked da judges dick u couldn't blow the spot"

"i'll shoot ya mum and fuck da bullot hole till she dies"

and also dis was in a different battle but still

"dis is suposta b freestyle friday, u belong on written tuesday"

Canibus is still the ILLEST nigga alive.

Proove It...

Proove It...

You proove it.

It's like Canibus said in 100 bars.
"You think you're better than Canibus, where's the evidence?"

Smh, ya misse da point, i shudda sed

he'll snatch ya crown wid ya head still attachd to it

hence the

Canibus is still the ILLEST nigga alive

Proove It


4,3,2,1 - LL Cool J, Method Man, Red Man, Canibus and DMX