View Full Version : EMinem VS CAN-i-Bitch


wordman
07-08-2004, 05:55 PM
Who would win in a Freestyle, cause there Both Excellent Freestylers..

Tupac
07-08-2004, 09:34 PM
Eminem.. he got skillz.. fuck it if he's white or no..

Killa Hearts
07-08-2004, 09:36 PM
I don't Em. HE is just an average rapper that is popular cause he is white.

Apollyon
07-09-2004, 12:45 AM
I don't Em. HE is just an average rapper that is popular cause he is white.
And you're an average nursery dropout that's alive because killing you would be a complete waste of time and energy...

Anyway, Canibus, because I believe that he can genuinely freestyle from what I've heard. He's pretty sick at it, too.

Eminem, despite many years underground battling, ciphering and so on, cannot freestyle. All his alleged 'freestyles' on the internet, with the exception of around two, are prewritten. The two I know of are his verse from "Rush Ya Clique" on Night Life (2000) by Outsidaz, which is pretty much gibberish....

"[Eminem]
I'm so weeded (How weeded are you?)
I'm so weeded I can freestyle for sixteen bars (Ha ha ha)
Right off the top, then go back to the top
And then repeat it (Ha)
Write it down on the paper
And still be able to read it (Sorry)
I can't read, but I still write to my pen pals (Uh, uh, dear)
I can't fly, but I still float on cement clouds (Whee!)
I can't see cause my eyes already been gouged, out
I been down with the Outz for ten thou-sand years
([Pace Won] So dunn, here?)
Some weird kids with piercings in more than one ear
Lauryn, huh? Hill?
([Pace won] There's more than one? IIIllll)
What? You want me to stop? Here?

And a 92.3 freestyle (allegedly 2002, but it sounds earlier) which is the wackest thing Eminem has ever publicly done, including the racist tape...

"Come in spittin' with non-written, non fiction
Rappers wanna step to this with no prediction
It doesn't matter 'cos I'm smashin' and bashin' and crashin'
I hate rappers with a passion when I'm chillin' with DJ Fashion
Yo, I need a frickin' Kleenex so I can (Dial right? Dilate? Die like?) with a Phoenix
When I'm chillin' with Fenix
With two coronas, I'm on the microphone
And I'ma own this,
Yo, and I'ma bone this in Arizona

Yo, rappers that ain't able
I can't stay stable;
I'm on two turntables with my man
But it doesn't matter 'cos he kicks lyrics galore
And he's only five foot, four
Yo, check it out, I bust rhymes and get groovy
My man got carted at a rated-R movie
But it really didn't matter, he wasn't insulted
He said: "I'm 27 years old, yo, I'm an adult, kid."

But y'all, still
Slim Shady gets ill with the skill
And I'ma always bill and kill
My baby's mama just to piss the world off
Just to piss the girls off
Yo, I hurl off
The top of the building
Kill women and children
And then it hit me
Suddenly my wrists tried to slit me
Couldn't believe it
Yo, y'all can't concieve it
It's Slim Shady, I'll..... fuck a girl in her cleavage
Bleep that out and you can keep it
Just bleep it. Yo, yo y'all keep it in secret
I'm top secret like Pac's secret
Rappers, they don't wanna see
Slim Shady, I'm from the motherfuckin'... D!
Ha ha, ha ha ha ha, ha
Ha ha, ha, ha ha ha ha
Yo, yo, Slim Shady!"

Enough said.

Death Bed
07-09-2004, 12:55 AM
^Wow u highlighted em's worse stuff and tried to make it look worse than it really was..bitch please..I think it's =..till I see who wins..blah

Apollyon
07-09-2004, 01:17 AM
Actually, I bolded parts because he stressed the words. Feel free to think as you will.

Death Bed
07-09-2004, 08:07 AM
^..Thank you I've took that into consideration

RedScare
07-09-2004, 01:21 PM
Im a fan of both, actually been on Eminem's shit for a long time and I just been recently gettin into Canibus. But theres no question, Canibus is fuckin monster when it comes to lyricism. Thats all he does - he never really tells stories of his personal life, expresses love for his daughter, or anything like that which is one of Eminem's stronger qualities, but none of that comes into play on diss records. Canibus's only purpose as an artists is to kill mics. Eminem might be the more rounded artist, but when it comes to straight lyricism, battle raps, back-and-forth disses, Canibus would crush Em. Sure Em has made some really dope battle records (The Sauce, Say What You Say), but who has he really gone up against - Benzino, a magazine, ICP, Fred Durst, other people that arent even emcees like Jermaine Dupri and Christina Agilara??? He barely got by on Ja Rule (as wack as he is and as sad as this is, Ja came wit the stronger disses), and he never even responded to any of Royce's disses. Just one listen to the first few tracks of 2000 B.C., and you'd agree wit me.

RedScare
07-09-2004, 01:29 PM
My friend just brought over 2000 B.C and Rip the Jacker like 2 weeks ago and that shit just blew me away. Ive always heard people talkin about him and when I went to check him out, alls I saw were average ratings for his albums and with a 56k modem and not so much dough so alls I heard as a few freestyles and Genibus and it was alright but that was my extent into listening to him. Than my friend brings over 2000 B.C and its THE sickest album I've ever heard lyrically damn I gotta post some of it. Eminems sick, but not this sick lyrically:

Download this track and youll be like "WHAT THE FUCK!!!" its called "The C-Quel".

I'm hardcore from the nappy follicles in my pores
To every single pore in my skull
Hard from my mouth to my jaws
>From my jaws to my torso where my organs are stored
And from my balls in my draws to the floor
I pray to God they hurry up and start the third World War
So I can start World War 4 and murder us all
I don't give a fuck if you rich or you poor
Don't give a fuck if you got ya' picture in the Source of Forbes
I don't give a fuck who won an award
On stage tryna' thank God I'll chop ya' tongue off wit' a sword
Let they blood pour all on the floor
If it ain't a cordless, you gettin' punched in the jaw and hung wit' the cord
I'll leave ya' corpse stiff as a board
Like frozen meat tryna' thaw then bury you under the morge
Gettin' in my way is like jumpin' in front of a car
Breakin' the sound barrier, that means the car is in front of the horn
By the time you hear it blowin', it's too late to respond
By the time you feel it hit chu, I'm gone
I'll send ya' to hell where you belong
So by the time ya' body hits the floor
Ya' spirit won't be in it no more
Who could flow for 4 minutes or more
Without breaks, without mistakes, without flaws
I got millions of styles and I mastered'em all
A metaphor matador fast enough to make the bullcharge and crash in the wall

SuperLative
07-09-2004, 09:56 PM
Canibus. Good question, but Canibus is just a lyrical monster.

Apollyon
07-10-2004, 01:30 AM
I'm hardcore from the nappy follicles in my pores
To every single pore in my skull
Hard from my mouth to my jaws
>From my jaws to my torso where my organs are stored
And from my balls in my draws to the floor
I pray to God they hurry up and start the third World War
So I can start World War 4 and murder us all
I don't give a fuck if you rich or you poor
Don't give a fuck if you got ya' picture in the Source of Forbes
I don't give a fuck who won an award
On stage tryna' thank God I'll chop ya' tongue off wit' a sword
Let they blood pour all on the floor
If it ain't a cordless, you gettin' punched in the jaw and hung wit' the cord
I'll leave ya' corpse stiff as a board
Like frozen meat tryna' thaw then bury you under the morge
Gettin' in my way is like jumpin' in front of a car
Breakin' the sound barrier, that means the car is in front of the horn
By the time you hear it blowin', it's too late to respond
By the time you feel it hit chu, I'm gone
I'll send ya' to hell where you belong
So by the time ya' body hits the floor
Ya' spirit won't be in it no more
Who could flow for 4 minutes or more
Without breaks, without mistakes, without flaws
I got millions of styles and I mastered'em all
A metaphor matador fast enough to make the bullcharge and crash in the wall

Dude, those are not good lyrics. Try the song 'Buckingham Palace' for an example of Canibus' best stuff, and the album 'Mic Club: The Curriculum'. By the way, we're talking about what would happen in the event of a freestyle battle, not back and forth dissing. If it was a case of diss tracks, Eminem would obliterate Canibus, providing he didn't drop another Hail Mary 2003.

MCD
09-14-2004, 06:45 PM
canibus....no doubt.....

Venomous
09-15-2004, 11:54 PM
Freestyle canibus would win definitely.

But I think if both of them made full diss tracks towards each other like Nas and Jay, em would win. Cause em has dropped a few lines bout bis, but nothing spectactular, only like a couple bars and shit.

BkBrawla
09-17-2004, 08:56 PM
Canibus....

U.D.D.
09-18-2004, 06:07 PM
appolyon, you need to stop defending eminem so much. hes gone pop, and i dont give a shit about fags who go pop. the boys nothing to do with hip-hop anymore, he's got a whack ass label full of whack ass emcees, who put out whack ass music with whack ass digital soundin space age atari production.

and i disagree, canibus would rip eminem in diss tracks. and dont throw "u dont care" at me, it wasnt a diss track, it was a continuation of "stan", which i think he did very well. im sure you'd agree!

FilthyWays
09-18-2004, 06:25 PM
WHAT!?!?!? wtf is wrong wit yall a freestyle battle EM WOULD RIP THIS YOUNG'N yall niggas mustve not hurd his latest freestyles i hear Can i buss freestyles i got em all downloaded he aint fuckin wit EM hes no where near his level and LL COOL J ended his damn career for what 10 yrs wit that Can I Buss song so please dont come wit this bullshit no more i guess 10 yrs all he been doin was writin shit he aint been in no spotlight

FilthyWays
09-18-2004, 06:42 PM
My friend just brought over 2000 B.C and Rip the Jacker like 2 weeks ago and that shit just blew me away. Ive always heard people talkin about him and when I went to check him out, alls I saw were average ratings for his albums and with a 56k modem and not so much dough so alls I heard as a few freestyles and Genibus and it was alright but that was my extent into listening to him. Than my friend brings over 2000 B.C and its THE sickest album I've ever heard lyrically damn I gotta post some of it. Eminems sick, but not this sick lyrically:

Download this track and youll be like "WHAT THE FUCK!!!" its called "The C-Quel".

I'm hardcore from the nappy follicles in my pores
To every single pore in my skull
Hard from my mouth to my jaws
>From my jaws to my torso where my organs are stored
And from my balls in my draws to the floor
I pray to God they hurry up and start the third World War
So I can start World War 4 and murder us all
I don't give a fuck if you rich or you poor
Don't give a fuck if you got ya' picture in the Source of Forbes
I don't give a fuck who won an award
On stage tryna' thank God I'll chop ya' tongue off wit' a sword
Let they blood pour all on the floor
If it ain't a cordless, you gettin' punched in the jaw and hung wit' the cord
I'll leave ya' corpse stiff as a board
Like frozen meat tryna' thaw then bury you under the morge
Gettin' in my way is like jumpin' in front of a car
Breakin' the sound barrier, that means the car is in front of the horn
By the time you hear it blowin', it's too late to respond
By the time you feel it hit chu, I'm gone
I'll send ya' to hell where you belong
So by the time ya' body hits the floor
Ya' spirit won't be in it no more
Who could flow for 4 minutes or more
Without breaks, without mistakes, without flaws
I got millions of styles and I mastered'em all
A metaphor matador fast enough to make the bullcharge and crash in the wall

this aint shit compared to numba 18 on Sim shady LP this is ok u hurd that its on fair to worn i born wit a set of horns and metaphors attached to my damn umbilical cord did yall hurd that freestyle it kills eerthing that was juss mentioned right here and Royce Da 5'9 will kill Canibus too if yall dont believe me again listen to numba 18 on that slim shady lp and down load the original renegades it was originally em and royce that man royce is too ill

M.C. Call
09-27-2004, 06:00 PM
who's canibus, someone fill me in please

s0Lstar18
09-28-2004, 04:24 AM
This Shitz kills anything Em has freestyled on the mic




Canibus]
Yo, I'm a nuclear warhead
Right now you're provokin my detonation
Never test me without proper authorization
My lack of patience has cause me to get mad
And explode right in front of your face like a airbag
Your rhyme is fake, your brain is child's play to manipulate
I create lyrics too intricate to imitate
Movin at a velocity
That'll break your stop-watch if you're clockin me
My concrete jungle is like Jumanji
But iller than what you seen in the cinema
A five foot eight nigga wit more horsepower than twelve cylinders
My brain consists of twin pentium chips
That's double the clock speeds of a 5-86
And nuttin about my physical matrix is basic
I kick flavor beyond what your tongue is capable of tastin
You'll be so surprised you won't believe your own eyes
It's like explainin color to a man that was born blind
One of a kind, I got divine chromosomes in me
My sperm'll scramble the eggs in a women's ovaries
Cuz I'm as original as it gets
And I can't respect, niggas that copy like double-decks
I get vexed, when crab punks bite my style
Cuz I'm sellin a thousand records per day, per square mile
Breakin the laws of phsyics, wit metaphors and lyrics
Speakin to dead poets by conjuring up they spirits
From Shakespeare to Edgar Allen
Yo, the whole Dead Poets Society couldn't mess around wit the talent
Much less understand it
I make type-rope walkers in the circus
lose they balance when I kick the planet

U.D.D.
09-28-2004, 04:29 AM
hes no where near his level and LL COOL J ended his damn career for what 10 yrs wit that Can I Buss song

your a fuckign idiot. you REALLY think LL killed canibus with that whack ass song?? HAH your an idiot. everyone knows canibus won that whole battle with second round K.O. that track was too ill, and LL just cant compare to an emcee of canibus' calibre. he was way out of his league and he knows it. your a complete fucking idiot.

oh and canibus' career hasnt ended, hes a well respected emcee, and hes still around on the underground circuit, which is where the majority of real hip-hop lives, and houses many more skilled emcees than your mainstream pop-rap does. learn somethin!!

U.D.D.
09-28-2004, 04:32 AM
and Royce Da 5'9 will kill Canibus too

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

~Damien~
09-28-2004, 04:54 AM
WHAT!?!?!? wtf is wrong wit yall a freestyle battle EM WOULD RIP THIS YOUNG'N yall niggas mustve not hurd his latest freestyles i hear Can i buss freestyles i got em all downloaded he aint fuckin wit EM hes no where near his level and LL COOL J ended his damn career for what 10 yrs wit that Can I Buss song so please dont come wit this bullshit no more i guess 10 yrs all he been doin was writin shit he aint been in no spotlight

I can't believe I found someone who actually thinks LL won that battle. Canibus's career couldn't have been ended if he still is capable of making albums. LL just used his Def Jam stature to hurt Canibus, not his "talent." If you take a newest, illest track from LL and you compare it to any track on Canibus' Rip the Jacker album you'd see there is no comparison. Have you even heard Poet Laureate II ?!? Niggaz don't need to be in the spotlight to be ill. Besides, there are far too many niggaz in the spotlight that suck ass..

About Eminem, I feel he has talent. I think everyone's heard that "freestyle" he did over the Got It Twisted beat but I'm damn sure that you gon' heard that verse on his album. Besides, lets say Em really does spit some nice freestyles on occaision, how long you think he can keep it up? I doubt Em's mental capacity is able to produce anything brilliant off a freestyle joint for an extended period of time. I mean c'mon:

You need to recognize,
My hand is quicker than the eye,
Quicker than the 5 speed Jamiroquai drives
A lifespan longer than 9 lives; Infinite rhymes that can't die,
A nigga with a divine mind
I dedicate this to the wise. Dedicate it to dimes
Dividin myself into 100 ten times
You can't deny the offerin's I offer
Flows that glow with aurora's the spark of light -
Water fly like a saucer -
With the torque of a Porsche,
Murder a million MCs then autograph all of their coffins..

bootron
09-29-2004, 06:32 PM
I think that most people that responded to this post have taken a good while to think about this battle. I think if there was ever a battle that would truly be evenly matched this would be it. I think when Canibus attacks somebody in a direct diss his metaphor usage and language become secondary. He can damage a person and is very direct and to the point. Eminem however doesnt have much that the public doesnt know or he hasnt already said about himself. That I believe is a tactic he uses to play off other rappers and pretend like their lyrics arent as damaging as they really are. Eminem has become very mainstream and pop recently but deep down he did grow up in Detroit. He still has some nasty hardcore in him. I believe that Eminem starts off sittin on the throne and Canibus has to knock him off. Im truly a Canibus fan but I believe it would be nearly impossible for either rapper to win this battle outright.

Does nobody else think that these 2 guys could do a wicked collab? This beef from what i have recently read is over. I think if more people got behind the idea of a collab between these 2 rather than what they could do to each other then maybe it would happen. I give respect to the both of them, and wish Canibus the best for his career.