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cr@zyb
04-27-2003, 08:45 AM
50 Cent/Ja Rule beef coming to an end?

When a war of words is becoming too dramatic for the Drama King himself, maybe the situation is getting out of hand.

"If you have some other drama, I ain't gonna front, I'mma hit it," DJ Kay Slay said during his "Double Drama Hour" show on New York's Hot 97. "But this beef in particular with Ja Rule and 50, this is it for me."

The rivalry between Ja Rule and 50 Cent recently elevated on Slay's show, and if the mixtape don has his way, it will end on his show.

Three weeks ago, Slay premiered Ja's freestyle, which the streets have dubbed "Loose Change." In it, Rule comes at the Shady/Aftermath camp, Busta Rhymes, Lil' Mo and manager Chris Lighty. A retaliation came the next week via the Em and 50 freestyle "Hail Mary." Last week the saga continued when Kay played a new Benzino dis record aimed at Shady/Aftermath as well as Ja's abrasive retort "Guess Who Shot Ya."

Now Slay is saying enough is enough.

"I'm putting it out there for them, have one [more record apiece] made and take it out that way," Slay suggested. "There's no other way. People are harboring feelings and they need to put everything they got to say and feel on one last record. Get everything out and then just keep it moving. How many more ways can Ja Rule dis 50? How many more things can 50 Cent say about Ja Rule? Most of them records kind of channel through me, and I feel like they need to cut it out now."

What has Kay and other DJs, including Hot 97's Funkmaster Flex, raising their eyebrows is the harshness of the battle and the history between Ja and 50. Some of 50's lyrical low blows include calling Ja, Irv Gotti, Blackchild and Caddillac Tah "pu--ies" on "I Smell Pu---" and rhyming, "Any living thing that cannot coexist with the kid/ Must decease existing/ Little n---a, now listen/ Yo mami, yo papi, that bitch you chasin'/ Ya little dirty-ass kids/ I'll f---in' erase them" on "Back Down."

Obviously the Inc. isn't absolved from levying disrespect.

"0-3 muthaf---as/ D.I.E. muthaf---as," Irv Gotti chants with the beat on Ja's "Guess Who Shot Ya." Ja later rhymes, "Your heart ain't cut for the code of the streets/ You're wondering, 'Is it Murder who shot me?' " over the same beat Notorious B.I.G. rapped to for his "Who Shot Ya." Rule recorded the song the night before he laid his vocals down for "Loose Change," on which he implies that Eminem's daughter, Haile, might grow up to be a "slut" like her mother.

"Everybody was pretty much like, 'Damn, when is [Ja] going respond to what's going on?' "said Slay. "So when I heard it, I said, 'OK, this might be a little interesting.' It's only two Ja Rule responses, but 50 done made about 50 records about Ja over the course of time. As far as a battle, it's now just starting to transpire, 'cause Ja Rule is just starting to strike back."

"Ja wasn't trying to get into all that," said Blackchild, who came at 50 and the G-Unit late last year with "You Da Wanksta." "He was trying to focus, get his money and relax. It's only but so much a person can take. That's why on the first song he's wilding out on everybody, 'cause he never said nothing through the whole situation. It got to the point where he was just frustrated and went in there and vented."

50 said Ja's backlash of barbs should have just been focused on him. "He should be talking about me, [not Eminem and Dre and] everybody else," 50 told MTV News recently. "He'll lose, he knows that. The route that he has to take is the 'I'm a mad gangsta' hardcore route, and ain't nobody gonna believe him."

Busta Rhymes, who's signed to the same management firm as 50 and Lil' Mo, agrees with the Southside, Queens, native. "Specifically my concern was, number one, me and Ja Rule were friends, or we were cool," Busta said. "We worked in the same studio, kicked it over the phone, go to clubs, pop bottles, do shows. If there was a problem he could have reached out to me."

Adding to the animated MC's hurt pride was the fact that one of his sons asked him why he was being inserted into the Inc. vs. Shady/Aftermath conflict. "Where would Ja find it in himself to talk about putting me in a coroner van? The only thing you put in a coroner van is dead people. You talking about killing me, homie? I attempted reaching out several different times — didn't have no luck. So ultimately I felt like I had to address it myself in some kind of way."

Unlike Busta, 50 has a longstanding feud with Murder Inc. If you ask 50, their beef started in 1999 shortly after Ja was robbed of a chain. According to 50, Ja later saw him hanging in a club with the chain thief and took offense.

The Inc. says the beef started to brew when 50 came to the set of Rule's video for "4 Life," which was shot on Jamaica Avenue in Queens, a center point between both of their neighborhoods of Southside Jamaica and Hollis.

"I guess he expected us to greet him with open arms," Blackchild said. "Ja just hit him with a 'Wassup?' and kept it moving. And he felt like we didn't show him enough love on the set. And from that point on, he started hating."

The underground song "Life's on the Line" followed, in which 50 accused the Inc. of being false tough guys. The two sides later had a scuffle in while staying at the same hotel in Atlanta, where 50 and Ja were both booked on the same bill. The violence hit its zenith in 2000 when 50 suffered minor stab wounds at New York's Hit Factory studio when the Incsters rushed him. Blackchild claimed responsibility for the stabbing, claiming he acted in self-defense because he thought someone was reaching for a gun.

Years later, Ja and 50 — who grew up living less than 20 minutes from each other and knowing many of the same people — are two of music's major superstars with seemingly everything one could dream of. But listening to their music, some people are afraid they may be risking their fame and fortune by bringing up bad blood from the past. Black shrugs it off.

"I don't know why everybody's worried," he said. "It started on the streets and evolved to being lyrical. Most times they say it's lyrical, it's going to escalate to the streets. This one is totally different. It couldn't stay in the streets because somebody was gonna get hurt and the police was looking."

Learn more about the beef between 50 Cent and Ja Rule in a special edition of MTV News' "The Wrap," premiering at 9:30 p.m. Sunday on MTV2. "The Wrap" airs again on Monday at 10:30 a.m., Tuesday at 8:30 a.m., Wednesday at 12:30 p.m., Friday at 1 p.m. and Saturday at 7:30 p.m.

Source: MTV News

Wiz
04-28-2003, 04:06 PM
Interesting, I like it. Im starting to have respect fo' JaRule, but he needa stop hiding behind Suge.

cr@zyb
04-28-2003, 04:10 PM
well he anit nothing to do with suge really only business thats it

Rydin' Ruff
05-06-2003, 11:25 PM
i think ja can beat 50...eminem will be tougher...hopefully crooked I will get in and finish em off...

cr@zyb
05-07-2003, 06:24 AM
yeah they have to get people off death row that will saying that murder inc is weak if they did that for fuck sake they did a track with benzino lmfao his wack as hell lmfao

Tupac
05-07-2003, 03:05 PM
yeah benzino is crap!!! Why da fuck is he in da game?? Wat a dumb nigga!!

Peace.

cr@zyb
05-08-2003, 07:45 AM
he should be doing nursery rhymes or some shit for lil kiddies, hes TRYING to save hip hop wtf is this guy talking about hip hop is booming at da moment we dont need a boston bitch saying that hip hop is down fuck off benzino yo this bitch has got to shot or something fuck lol

ThizZuG
05-19-2003, 06:48 AM
that was a pretty good article.. finally figured out where teh *real* beef started... it all fits into place each side talks about these things hapening...

ViCeMoB
05-22-2003, 12:04 AM
ja and benzino garbage
tha whole shady aftermath records label then murda'd them
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Jhey {SP}
05-24-2003, 11:15 AM
lol agreed, ja especially ---> ballz

Eminemluver197
05-29-2003, 01:17 AM
I just gotta say that once ya start sumthin with anybody from Shady/Aftermath records ya start to mess with Eminem. Benzino is a freakin grandpa rapper like in Eminems song "Nail in the Coffin". JaRule just needs to shut up and actually open his mouth so we can understand wtf he is sayin. Ja sounds like a freakin dog when he raps. Just sayin that ya start sumthin then your gonna finish it and not just forget. PLUS!!!!!! JaRUle can't rap for beans!!!!! Ja needs to shut up about prayin and smokin weed. I think Ja Rule is a hipocrit.

ThizZuG
06-04-2003, 06:50 AM
ja rule had his mouth shut. its 50 cent that came out with all these fucking disses like 10 in a row ja was quiet, notice in loose change he disses like eveyreon from s hady, casue he kept his mouth shut, and when it didnt go away he cant just go hide and swallow hid pride.

psychoeddie
06-11-2003, 03:01 AM
yea im takin aftermaths side u cant become a pop aritist and then come back, even thos ja's diss on ems daughter was funny lol aftermath reppin what!

bigblazinblunts
06-15-2003, 01:18 AM
ja cant even compare to 50. and eminem has ripped everyone that has stepped to him up.

Archaic
06-15-2003, 05:09 AM
word.

Dark Blue
06-28-2003, 12:30 AM
Lets be real for a minute and take an 'Objective' view of this whole Ja vs 50 beef.

Ja Rule Vs 50 cent
Lyricaly: (one-on-one) This is a tough call, but if I had to I think could probobly just marginally beat 50 lyricaly, but fifty could make a much better song. So I declare that a toss up.

I know you guys are in an uproar about what I said, but peep it this way. 50 has better word choose, great use of the truth as a weapon, makes catchy hooks, has a better voice IMO. Ja I believe when needed can muster up more lyrical juice than 50 can, can make good songs (but not consistantly) There both about even at using metaphors, similies, sntanems, etc.

Lyrically: (Friends involved) This would be such a me-lee. Aftermath most importantly has eminem, A BATTLE RAPPER, now one associated with Murder Inc. can f**K with Em'. You won't hear Dre invovled in this lyrically, cuz I think he is scared of Suge Knight. 50 and Ja are about evenly matched, If Nas was to dis AfterMath that would be different, but with him being cool with Em' that will not come to fruition for the duration of this beef. If Em could use Jay-z they would have it won, but I doubt Jay would get invovled in a beef of this calliber. Shady/Aftermath& Co could win this hands down cuz no one very lyrically inclined is associated with Murder Inc. that is willing to get involved.

One the street:

One-on-one: (HANDS) About evne one is quicker and one is stronger, and big. (Now look at your own size, and I'll what for you to make the most biased opinion in the world.) I won't front, I'm kinda tall and skinny like ja, but he is more muscular, but I think fifty has the height and reach advantage. I personally think 50 could break his ass in half.


One-on-One: (Weapons) If 50 is as cautious as he says he is about having bullet proof cars, and maybe goes to a shooting range, I'd pick 50. However, I don't beleive that to be true, So that is a toss up as well


All Out War: (Weapons) No Offense, I believe all the above mentioned people have some stripes (so less than others), and they all are down for their cause. But if The Row got involved in a street war or any type, with another music label, then that label will cease to exist.

These are just my thought on the subject. Holla.

ThizZuG
06-28-2003, 03:50 PM
Just to clear it up, is tha row officially on ja rules side?

funk_M
06-29-2003, 10:45 AM
i don't think so, but i'm not sure, i thought Suge was actually trying to get a better image for Tha Row at the moment but i don't know.

Dark blue, did you say that Ja rule is more muscular than 50?

Dark Blue
06-29-2003, 10:55 AM
No, I was saying that me and Ja are about the same size (I am taller, but HE is more muscular than ME). I was thinking about it as if I were going against 50 in a fist fight. The Art Of War teaches you to truthfully evaluate an opponent, and if I were going against him , I truthfully think he would be a handful to say the least. Only way I could beat him in that case is to do something unexpected.

By the way, I am certain it will never come to all this fighting ans so forth, but I just wanted to be objective, and state facts of any possible arguement that may evolve from the first post of the thread post.

funk_M
06-29-2003, 11:09 AM
Fair enough, it seemed like you were saying that ja was bigger than 50, but you weren't.

Seem to have taken Sun tzu's words to heart

Blood Hound
06-29-2003, 02:02 PM
jafuckin sucks....

shawdy2003
07-24-2003, 02:58 AM
finally somebody agree they should just leave it alone they can make some tight shit togetha u know i aint hatin on benzino or nothin but IF U WANNA COME OUT WIT SOMFIN DISIN PEOPLE DONT BE DOIN NO NURSERY RHYME SHIT WHAT THE HELL IS THAT but fo real though they need to chill with the beef

Trilla
08-04-2003, 04:48 PM
Jarules and his murder or as Jarule lol (spells it Muredr Inc)
is a bunch of bitches i neva liked them i dont know bout yall but i dont like ppl who bites rappers styles thats just plain out stupid If Pac was alive their would be no Jarule!!!

shadyslady
08-09-2003, 08:23 AM
eminem murdas every1 hes ever up against and shady/aftermath will win this.
ja cant rap 2 save his life!u cant understand him!

YO MOMMA-
08-26-2003, 10:19 AM
wait ja dised em pretty good on this song i dont know what it is callled(im not a ja fan) ja say em you claim you moms a crack head you girl is a known slut whats halie gonna be when she grows up

Rotta3k
08-01-2004, 10:35 PM
shadyslady - "eminem murdas every1 hes ever up against and shady/aftermath will win this.
ja cant rap 2 save his life!u cant understand him!" you are obviously ignorant. Eminem showed up from the streets and just recently tried to sign the man who fucked him big time in a freestyle compitition, Eyedea. Not to mention Sage Francis (the best freestyler yet) but your to busy listneing to chingy no? I would not be surprised if you didn't who The Game was. Eminem is not the best, he is good, but no the best, i thought his whole game was "im white trash" but no now he is "thug gangsta" he cant make his mind up. I respect em, but he contradicts mostly what he says. so does 50, 50 said ja isnt from the hood, but somone posted that 50 and ja grew up together... this is a show diss, its funny as hell to listen to, but nothing big will happen. only a few people on this forum know what they are talking about, the rest are retarded. Thanks for the vent, and start reviewing before you talk.

TheInfamous
11-07-2004, 05:58 AM
ja and benzino garbage
tha whole shady aftermath records label then murda'd them
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I totally agree on this one. Murder Inc. is good but Shady Records is Better.

*Spit Ill*
11-12-2004, 06:17 AM
^how did they 'murder' them?

Redspade
05-22-2005, 11:15 PM
Lets be real for a minute and take an 'Objective' view of this whole Ja vs 50 beef.

Ja Rule Vs 50 cent
Lyricaly: (one-on-one) This is a tough call, but if I had to I think could probobly just marginally beat 50 lyricaly, but fifty could make a much better song. So I declare that a toss up.


You could beat 50 Cent huh? That is why you are living at home with mommy and he is a million air? plz stop riding your own dick. You = nobody.

After listening to all the songs. Not counting Em's influence. Ja Rule is the better rapper. He just sounds better. 50 is a singer not a rapper. He is also a coward. Ja Rules mistake was forcing Eminem into the middle. The only rapper alive that can stand a chance against Eminem in a battle is Nas. and maybe just maybe Royce Da 59.

Redspade
05-22-2005, 11:23 PM
shadyslady - "eminem murdas every1 hes ever up against and shady/aftermath will win this.
ja cant rap 2 save his life!u cant understand him!" you are obviously ignorant. Eminem showed up from the streets and just recently tried to sign the man who fucked him big time in a freestyle compitition, Eyedea. Not to mention Sage Francis (the best freestyler yet)

First off BIG is the best freestyler todate. and if you cant see that. You should unreg yourself from this forum and jump of a fucking cliff you complete and total waste of space. I listened to Eyedea he is pretty good. But MC Juice beat eminem as well and he didnt try to sign him after he got big. You just come here to flame your ignorant opinion. Sit down and shut up and wait till you are asked your opinion before you voice it fag. Better yet go have a nap. Seems like ya need it. Leave the real conversations to the adults, boy!

SYmBiOTe
05-25-2005, 11:01 AM
lol benzino was in the game for 10-15 years n hasnt even gone over 500,000 records yet...haha what a looser..

Nico
05-25-2005, 11:38 AM
who told me that my spelling sucks?

SYmBiOTe
06-19-2005, 07:36 AM
murder inc=murdered inc..

Exotik
06-19-2005, 06:33 PM
they both suck anyway, like wack basketball players

Lilscarface
06-20-2005, 02:55 AM
Ja got 50 on them battle tracks in my opinion.

But with all the street shit and all that 50 just running his damn mouth, he aint done or gona do a damn thing to Ja, 50 worse than a damn female.

u_know-me
06-25-2005, 08:22 AM
i think the beef between 50 and JA are kinnda cool... rap needs beefs and disses... 50 and ja is in my eyes are pretty much on the same level ut 50 has only got some more hits ans so on...i't kinnda cool since i like them both...