Everyone goes on and on about Illmatic,ye,it was cool,but Skillmatic just totally demolished Illmatic!what y'all think!?!?

Definately Illmatic, cuz my fav songs r on Illmatic n its jus ILL, but Stillmatic is nice too tho, but not dat good.

But if u fink then Stillmatic has Ether, Flyest, One Mic, What Goes Around n 2nd Childhood. Dam, its a bit iller than illmatic!

gotta say stillmatic, cause i like to listen to it more then illmatic. but its close.

Ye i'd lik to listen it more too. But i fink dat all of his albums are kinda good!

lyrically, it goes to Illmatic, but more enjoyable, i'd say stillmatic

Both, obviously were sick as hell, but Illmatic was the beginning, and lyrically couldnt be touched. However, if you had the beats of Stillmatic with the lyrical ablilty of Illmatic, then you got the greatest shit of ALL time.

Illmatic is one of the most over rated albums of all time, there wasn't really anything special about it at all. Infact, I found it really boring. Stillmatic shits all over it.

no it wasn't, its one of the best albums LYRICALLY.......it depends on what ur into.....Illmatic is more old school. That's why I like Nas's 10th anniversary Illmatic album. It mixes the old school raw lyrics wit the new schoot beats............

Illmatic had no bad songs on it...furthermore no aiight songs on there there all dope tracks i have yet to come across someone who dislikes a track from illmatic

there both dope as fuck, and clairs right about the beat thing, hopefully, there both sick

WHAT? illmatic is a classic album, a REAL classic, not an album you think is dope, or even very dope, but so dope that 10 years later it still has your head nodding as hard as it was the first time you heard it. illmatic has 10 tracks, and everyone of them is brilliant. the production is dope yet understated, this means that your attention is focussed on his rhymes. its not about the producer, its about the rapper, these days beats are seen as the most important thing about a rap track, cos the place that they played is in a club. this is from the golden age of rap, where people listened to what was being said, not where drunk fuckers can sing along to a simple hook. this is an album that you can sit down to and listen to from beginning to end without even looking at the skip button. how many albums do you own that you can do that on? every line, every verse, every beat and every cut is on point. stillmatic is none of these things. admittedly the production is tight, but only cos you focus on that, as opposed to his verses.

both are classics, but nothing can compare to illmatic

What sort of dumb ass thread is this? Illmatic is one of the best albums hip hop ever. Illmatic is Classic, Stillmatic is just very very good.

Everyone goes on and on about Illmatic,ye,it was cool,but Skillmatic just totally demolished Illmatic!what y'all think!?!?


I think your too young or just immature to even be able to have an opinion on this.


But I'll give you a second chance. Make your case on why you think Stillmatic 'totally demolished" (i can tell your young) Illmatic.



Don't say the production is better because first off its two different eras, you can't comprare 94 beats to nowadays beats. Secondly, even if we did compare the production then its a good argument and Illmatic may very well take it, Illmatic had better and more legendary producers on it, the beats also vibed better with themselves (a under rated category on what makes a good album).

Illmatic had zero filler, can you say that about Stillmatic ? Even if it has one track thats skipable or so so then it already lost. And yes that's the case.

Illmatic has some of the most amazing lyricism in the history of hip hop so dotn even try to compare Stillmatic to it.

Illmatic didnt have no commercially charged purpose behind it, no radio oriented tracks like Stillmatic did (got yourself a...), nor did it have the publicity created hence more record sales beef track on it (ether) which always adds false hype to albums.




and yeah, go ahead make your case.

^^^i do think Illmatic is better....but you guys needa come back to earth.....

these are all opinions......i mean, hiphop and everything.....but some people get so caught up in it.....you can always have the majority of hiphop fans who would say Illmatic is better.....but that doesn't make it a fact, and just cuz you are from an older generation don't mean you can claim his opinion false

people get so caught up in this stuff....people, humans, created hiphop, we created rap......people who started hiphop and rapping, the audiences decided wat they liked and determined wat was more skill than others

if someone came out with a new style of music, people wil grasp it and artists will come out, and people will determine which has more skill, all by opinions, then times will go by and they'll go by that concept

but its all opinion, im not really defending the guy who said Stillmatic demolished Illmatic, this post is basically for him......


theres no point in finishin it....wat im sayin is too deep to understand, and basically too deep to explain......ahhh, wat the heck, don't even come bashin cuz ya'll have no idea exactly wat im sayin



im out

I know exactly what your saying because I heard it a million times before, but I dont agree on this whole opinion thing.


People think you can have an opinion on anything, on god, on politics, on policy, on morals, etc.

Truth is some things are mathematical. This includes music.

Music has theory behind it and set standards. There is such a thing as a good singer and a bad singer. Its not opinion, its fact....the only thing that can differ is the degree of agreement.


Now for this approach that Im speaking of to work, you also have to consider one thing for it to make sense.

People have to make the distinction between truth and preference.




I may not like Nelly, but that doesnt mean he's a bad mainstream artist.

preference vs. truth

Just because someone doesn't like whoever, doesnt mean their wack.

If people made this distinction then there wouldnt be silly arguing.

The key is to be precise with words. People will say Nelly is a shitty rapper. Well that's too general. You can say he's a bad lyricist, which is true, but he's a good recording artist and you can back that up by the music he put out and his commercial success in record sales. Be precise instead of general. If your precise people will always know what your talking about, there will be better communication with people, and all will be crystal clear.




feel me ?

Illmatics the better album, its consistently solid from start to finish (though sayin it has ten tracks of pure fire isn't quite true, The Genesis is just talking with Live @ the BBQ in the background). Stillmatic is a classic but like Freddy said, it does have skip tracks on it.

I disagree with people sayin productions better on Stillmatic though, I felt the old skool production on Illmatic was better than some of the beats on Stillmatic... The lyricism on Stillmatic is also completely different to that on Illmatic, so they can't really be compared. Metaphors n complexity on Stillmatic are far better than anythin on Illmatic, whereas multis flow n 'streetness' on illmatic far surpassed the latter. Both classic albums in their own rite, but Illmatic is timeless, I could listen to it over n over every track. Few fillers on Stillmatic

I know illmatics classic but i'd rather listion 2 stillmatic IMO

Stillmatic= Very good

Illmatic= Great


Close but Illmatic is such a solid album from beginning to end.

I know exactly what your saying because I heard it a million times before, but I dont agree on this whole opinion thing.


People think you can have an opinion on anything, on god, on politics, on policy, on morals, etc.

Truth is some things are mathematical. This includes music.

Music has theory behind it and set standards. There is such a thing as a good singer and a bad singer. Its not opinion, its fact....the only thing that can differ is the degree of agreement.


Now for this approach that Im speaking of to work, you also have to consider one thing for it to make sense.

People have to make the distinction between truth and preference.




I may not like Nelly, but that doesnt mean he's a bad mainstream artist.

preference vs. truth

Just because someone doesn't like whoever, doesnt mean their wack.

If people made this distinction then there wouldnt be silly arguing.

The key is to be precise with words. People will say Nelly is a shitty rapper. Well that's too general. You can say he's a bad lyricist, which is true, but he's a good recording artist and you can back that up by the music he put out and his commercial success in record sales. Be precise instead of general. If your precise people will always know what your talking about, there will be better communication with people, and all will be crystal clear.




feel me ?



i hear wat you sayin, im just sayin, its almost like this.....if, when rap started, everyone was rhyming wit skill like and the great lyricism, which we claim is great lyricism, then say a new generation comes out, and someone starts rhyming basic, not completely basic, but just not wit the creative lyricism......its different, and the people will like it, and grasp it and call it the better lyricism......its hard to explain

i've never had that question asked to me...lets see, ok ima spit the truth from me and me only. back in 99 when "got yo self a gun" came out i turned into a full nas fan mind you i already heard about illmatic just never listened to it. now i went out and got stillmatic and for the first time in my life i could listen to a whole cd and love ever song, that my friends is a classic. Now i believe that illmatic is like that too but artistically stillmatic easily beats ill-only because nas was way much more talented when he droped still. and truthfully i think that half the ppl that say illmatic is a "classic" didnt even buy the cd.....they just followed the crew of famous rappers who said were influenced by it.

^^ I thought stillmatic came out in 2001 not 99

uh how is stillmatic better than illmatic? I really felt stillmatic was overrated. There were some tracks i didnt like, Like Rule and braveheart party (glad that got taken off and replaced with rule, which is still bad). Id like to slap nas for making braveheart party.

Stillmatics production is nothing compared to illmatic, DJ premier and Pete Rock (forgot the third dude who produced on it). Were all great with that album. Also that nas lyrics are nothing without nas beats. Stillmatic didnt have "nas beats". Stillmatic really didnt live up to its hype IMO. Even it was written is better than this.

How can you compare stillmatic, when illmatic has tracks like, NY state of mind (classic), Represent and It aint hard to tell? Although it only has ten tracks, What would you perfer, 20 whack ones or nine dope ones? (genesis is just talking)

Illmatic is the winner here.

Illmatic witout a doubt...there are no tracks to skip and the lyrics are ill
Stillmatic would've been a non-skip album if it wasn't for that Braveheart Party joint

stillmatic........

illmatic is quite possibly the best hip hop cd in history its my favorite

u couldent compare stillmatic to illmatic dont get me wrong i dont think nas made one bad cd
but every single track on illmatic is amazing
almost every single track on stillmatic is amazing
i think he made stillmatic to show the world that he still got that flare in his style