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Venomous
11-30-2004, 04:44 PM
Greatest album of the year. Hands Down.

Production is excellent and lyricism is amazing. I think it's safe to say Nas hit another Illmatic on this one.

2 cd's, 25 tracks of pure fire. Prolly the best beats then any other album of his. Not one track is dull. Each one is dope. Another Masterpeice to add to Nas discography. The production is astounding. It's official, Nas is one of the greatest emcees to ever breathe on the microphone.

Anyone else who has the album, respond with your opinions on the it.

Hensch
11-30-2004, 09:19 PM
Album is dope, but no Premo.. i was really hoping for a premo track, but Salaam and L.E.S held it down. Rakim Biography produced by Nas was ill.. i think the production was better on that song then Suicide Bounce.

NeoLogik
11-30-2004, 09:31 PM
Nasty Nas!! KONY!! best album of the year. No doubt. A bit less than Illmatic but best since! This is a fuckin ILL!!!

H_O_V
12-01-2004, 09:21 AM
Dam ya got me excited.

Esocra
12-01-2004, 12:32 PM
Dopest album since Illmatic for sure. Lyrics are always on point - but - some of the beats are not to my liking. Wish he would of used Havoc, Alchemist, or Primo on some. The album is still CLASSIC.

*Spit Ill*
12-01-2004, 12:35 PM
Dam ya got me excited.


LMAO.even jayz likes it...

bowdown2da_W
12-01-2004, 08:18 PM
yup hands down BEST ALBUM OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!

Purre
12-09-2004, 01:41 PM
the beats are whack but the lyrics are the bomb... that's his style and i like it

Empress
12-09-2004, 06:36 PM
I agree with that-the beats could have been a lot better-but his lyrics were on point.

KinG~J
12-10-2004, 07:36 AM
A killa album in every way. Nas has done it agin!

Passion
12-10-2004, 03:05 PM
I definitely agree with all of you. As a Nas fan (peep the avy) and just a Hip-Hop fan I thought it was a very good album.

omicron
12-13-2004, 11:09 PM
omg nas is the illest
dopest album ever.

Wiz
12-14-2004, 07:19 AM
its definitely better than Jay's double album......i'd give it a 5, or 4.8

Packo X
12-28-2004, 07:31 PM
One of the illest album ive heard.. Nas has reclaimed his position as the king of Hip Hop.. Lyrics are mind blowing in all of the tracks.. the album does not fail to satisfy the ears, i personally like the tracks "Nazareth Savage" & "Disciple" another album like this and it'll be "Jay Z who?"
Peace

T1Oracle
12-30-2004, 11:22 AM
The good tracks on it can be really good, but the trash and hipocrisy that Nas spews in it's content ruins much of it. First he builds up black women saying that they are the "earth", then he calls his girl a bitch, and describes them in the most disrepectful manners possible ("y'all know my style" for one). On top of that he calls famous black people coons, spooks, and toms for speaking proper english? Wasn't he bashed for speaking as well he does? Hippocrit. There are good tracks on the album, but how can you redeem it from trash like that? And his rhyming dropped off on many tracks.

Esocra
12-30-2004, 11:46 PM
The good tracks on it can be really good, but the trash and hipocrisy that Nas spews in it's content ruins much of it. First he builds up black women saying that they are the "earth", then he calls his girl a bitch, and describes them in the most disrepectful manners possible ("y'all know my style" for one). On top of that he calls famous black people coons, spooks, and toms for speaking proper english? Wasn't he bashed for speaking as well he does? Hippocrit. There are good tracks on the album, but how can you redeem it from trash like that? And his rhyming dropped off on many tracks.

Yea - there are contradictions - every album has them.

Also, I don't think he ever disses famous black icons for speaking proper. Can you site a lyric?

THE TRUTH
12-31-2004, 12:42 AM
There are nothing wrong wit the instrumentals the lyrics are laid over. As a matter of fact, Nas's beats since Illmatic have had this same feel. Dont think that ever rapperz shit has to sound the same. The Album is coo... nothin more to say bout that.

THE TRUTH
12-31-2004, 12:44 AM
Escora, I think you need to go back and listen more carefully:

He didn't call famous black people coons for speaking proper ... peepz need to work on their comprehension skills. And the bitch lines, listen again ... he actually takes it back. Bitch isn't a bad usage either way. Do you say "nigga"?

NeoLogik
12-31-2004, 03:15 AM
The good tracks on it can be really good, but the trash and hipocrisy that Nas spews in it's content ruins much of it. First he builds up black women saying that they are the "earth", then he calls his girl a bitch, and describes them in the most disrepectful manners possible ("y'all know my style" for one). On top of that he calls famous black people coons, spooks, and toms for speaking proper english? Wasn't he bashed for speaking as well he does? Hippocrit. There are good tracks on the album, but how can you redeem it from trash like that? And his rhyming dropped off on many tracks.

Its all opinions. On Coon Picnic he targets Con-daliza Rice and Kobe the hardest. He tells that if Con-daliza Rice wanted to help the hood she should live it basically. He said that Kobe was the shit until he lost his sponserships. (Kobe diverted the media's attention to Shaq while being questioned for no reason......starting the Kobe-Shaq beef) Basically he called Kobe a chump. Or being a slave to the whites. The rest of the song he is talking about the fakes on t.v. or the people who do whatever they can to help their "character". i can't say the same for "You know my style". All i can say is that it was a single.



_no disrespect to T's opinion_

Esocra
12-31-2004, 11:47 PM
Escora, I think you need to go back and listen more carefully:

He didn't call famous black people coons for speaking proper ... peepz need to work on their comprehension skills. And the bitch lines, listen again ... he actually takes it back. Bitch isn't a bad usage either way. Do you say "nigga"?

Read the entire thread next time - I comprehend the album perfectly - I've listened to it 100 times by now. I was challenging T1Oracle to site a lyric since he believes Nas calls out black people for speaking proper.

T1Oracle
01-05-2005, 12:06 PM
Whitey always tell him, "Ooh, he speak so well"
Are you the one we look to, the decent Negro?
The acceptable Negro -- hell nah
But they say, "These are our heroes"

Bitch isn't a bad usage either way. Do you say "nigga"?
No.

This album is flooded with self contradiction, beyond any sense.

Esocra
01-05-2005, 02:10 PM
[QUOTE=T1Oracle]
Whitey always tell him, "Ooh, he speak so well"
Are you the one we look to, the decent Negro?
The acceptable Negro -- hell nah
But they say, "These are our heroes"[QUOTE]

I see why you interpreted it that way, but I don't think that's what he means by it. The entire song is him dissing society's versions of what the ideal black role model should be. In this case, "whitey" believes that this particular "negro" is the ideal role model based solely on his grammar.

T1Oracle
01-05-2005, 06:16 PM
That's ignorant, grammar is only good with education, and education is only good when it lands you a job and financial success. To be against that for our people, is to be against our people. Furthermore that spits directly in the face of the "I know I can" song that he did on God's Son. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, pilots, politicians... all of those require an education. Also, what could he have against Taye Diggs and Tiger Woods?

Esocra
01-06-2005, 02:41 PM
That's ignorant, grammar is only good with education, and education is only good when it lands you a job and financial success. To be against that for our people, is to be against our people. Furthermore that spits directly in the face of the "I know I can" song that he did on God's Son. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, pilots, politicians... all of those require an education. Also, what could he have against Taye Diggs and Tiger Woods?

You're not getting it. Idealizing a particular black male into role model status based SOLELY on the quality of grammar should not be quantifiable in and of itself. Just because Rev. Al Sharpton is good at public speaking does not mean he is a good role model for black America. Damn drug dealer. I believe this is the point Nas is trying to make.

I have NO CLUE what his beef with Tiger Woods could possibly be.

T1Oracle
01-07-2005, 12:15 AM
It's based on their success. Any black person who succeeds in making millions while maintain respectability and without selling their soul, is a hero. None of them where born rich. Nor were they priveledged. They had to work hard to get what they have.

Venomous
01-07-2005, 01:10 AM
^ I thought he was praising Tiger and Taye at the end of the track, dismiss this post if ignorant.

Venomous
01-07-2005, 01:16 AM
"Yeah, I wanna give a special shoutout to the -- y'know
the crew doin' they thing out there reppin' us hard
Big up to Tiger Woods. Yeah, ya don't stop. Big up
to Cuba Gooding Jr. Y'know, yeah, y'know. Tay Diggs
what up my nigga. Yeah, ha-ha. And you don't quit
and ya don't quit, and ya don't stop and ya don't quit."

I wasn't wrong, i think he was giving praise to Taye Diggs and Tiger Woods, and in the interview with Angie Martinez he said he is a big fan of Cuba Gooding. So i don't think he was dissing them. And i don't think he was dissing the fact of the black dude who spoke well.....

T1Oracle
01-08-2005, 09:56 PM
This article puts it very well IMO.
http://www.allhiphop.com/editorial/
It's a good read.

FoxFive
01-20-2005, 02:15 AM
The good tracks on it can be really good, but the trash and hipocrisy that Nas spews in it's content ruins much of it. First he builds up black women saying that they are the "earth", then he calls his girl a bitch, and describes them in the most disrepectful manners possible ("y'all know my style" for one). On top of that he calls famous black people coons, spooks, and toms for speaking proper english? Wasn't he bashed for speaking as well he does? Hippocrit. There are good tracks on the album, but how can you redeem it from trash like that? And his rhyming dropped off on many tracks.


THANKYOU, I FOR ONE THOUGHT THIS WAS ONE OF NAS'S WORST ALBUMS. ABSOLUTELY WHORRIBLE. perhaps im missing something in this cd, can anyone pin poin key songs i should give a relisten to that might change my opinion. because i not long ago finished listening to it and it made my ears bleed.

Wiz
01-20-2005, 02:23 AM
the album is nice.....im definitely feelin it.....can't wait for the Just a Moment video to come out....Nas already filmed it

HoBGoBLiN
01-20-2005, 05:41 AM
To the guy who said about Nas saying coons, spooks etc.

You missed the entire point of that song, Streets Disciple is a fantastic album, it reads off like a book

And Nas aint about rhymin techniques or flows, he is what he is, namely a philosopher

Afrolabi
01-20-2005, 06:37 AM
I got this at Xmas it was one of the 2 U.S. albums i got last year.

(The other being Eminem Encore, dissapointment....)

It wasn't the best of Nas' work. Musically, I didn't think the beats were all that great.

Sometimes he can be a lyrical genius, but most of the time he didn't show it here.

Meanings in his shits are always great though.

Total Prophet
01-21-2005, 07:29 PM
the album is classic.............................






Garbage Imo Illmatic is still his best shit

Strat!
02-02-2005, 01:41 PM
Complete class, lotta work put into this, i loved more or less every track.

Best Disc: 2
Best Track: Unauthorized Biography Of Rakim

RskimB
02-11-2005, 11:43 PM
Its an awesome album, my broke lazy ass finally copped it last week.

Detroit101
03-02-2005, 06:15 AM
The first disk was hot, but I rarely play the second one.

TJEscobar
03-02-2005, 03:06 PM
It was a double disc. I hear and read how a lotta people say it should have been cut down, and I ask why. Conceptually the album was probably his best. Lyrically it was there as usual. Even Nastradamus had some classic joints on it. But most people don't listen to lyrics. When are in the get crunk era when a group like Ying Yang Twins out sell the best artists. I dont care about record sales thats for the label to worry about.


Looking at the album

The whole 1st disc was for the streets
the 2nd was more adult orientated


The whole way he was on the grown man tip. Forget jewelry, ice, and all that other stuff. It looks nice and is nice to have but in the end that don't make you a better person.

NeoLogik
03-02-2005, 11:29 PM
when i first got it......War had me hooked for like 3 dayz.........so did message to the feds........and so did reason.........so did just a moment..........i think this can be classified as runner up behind god son, stillmatic, it was written, or illmatic......it has good content he just didn't put all his linguistic/emcee skills in it

DIJINN
03-03-2005, 11:35 AM
Yeah This Shit Was Tite... God To See Ludacris and Busta On The Album... Fav Track Is Disciple

Packo X
03-06-2005, 11:03 PM
yeah fo' show.. Streets Disciple was the best album of 2004 anyone that thinks otherwise can go and.... :D