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Vokals
05-15-2005, 10:11 PM
SINCE EVERYONE BASICALLY HAS A PROBLEM WITH WRITING SHIT AT THE LAST MINUTE AND MAKING EXCUSES, YOU ONLY HAVE 3 DAYS TO HAVE YOUR VERSE DONE. DO NOT BITCH ABOUT YOUR TOPICS, YOU SIGNED UP FOR IT, YOU TOOK THE CHANCE OF GETTING A CERTAIN TOPIC. A REAL WRITER CAN WRITE TO ANYTHING.





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Everyone should know the basic rules. No bitching or fighting in the threads. Or shit talking. 1st offense results in 1 docked vote, 2nd offense results in dq. Everyone must vote on atleast 1 other topical or you will be docked a vote.
How to win:
If your opponent no shows, (IF YOU NO SHOW YOU WILL BANNED FROM ALL FUTURE TOPICAL EVENTS)
or 3-0 Ko or a 4-1 ko or a first to 5. If a vote is placed as a tie each will get 1 vote a piece. and if it goes to 5-5 i will be the deciding vote or xkwisite. If you have a problem with a vote pm me and i will discuss it with xkwisite.
Length: 30-50 lines

Have fun and enjoy.

Topic: You are apart of the CIA, and you are told to go on a mission to Korea and obtain intelligence about their nuclear activety and the 3 main locations of their power plants. During your mission you are spotted and kidnapped. Take us through the torturing, questioning and what little things you pick up on while there. Do you escape, are you rescued or do you meet your demise?


Deadline: Check in by Tuesday May 17th by 11:59 pm EST
Verses due Thursday May 19th by 11:59 pm EST
Only have 12 hours leway time (docked 1 vote) Anything over you lose a vote. (This only applies for when verses are due not check in.)

J. Cyrus
05-15-2005, 11:03 PM
Checkity...G'Luck, Cap'n Planet...LoLz...

Ike-One
05-16-2005, 10:59 AM
Check, and may the power be with ya.

J. Cyrus
05-20-2005, 01:30 AM
"Truth's" misleadin, the information's just too deceivin
It comes down to whether or not you'll die for what you believe in
Wonderin if provin reasons is meant for irrelevance
It's just the risk you take in the Agency of Central Intelligence

"Agent Mathis and I along with 2 others have arrived on our flight to North Korea...The information we have been sent to collect is vital to maintaining a semi-peaceful state of affairs on our planet..."

Sent to Korea, an operative dispatched to expose a nation
Undercover information that could upset our foes in waitin
Cuz it's only a matter of time before the chosen are matin
An unholy alliance spawned an A-Bomb in a moment with Satan
Cuz these officials are evil, communists disguise the terror threat
So I'm here to prevent the aftermath of what September 11th sent
It set a precedent, cuz now these rogue nations are trippin
Cuz weapons grade Uranium has set the stage for decisions
made in an instant...thus I've stayed on a mission aimed true
to wade thru the murky deception of wretched men that'd main you
So it's natural to be afraid to step in this Chess game and play moves
When it's only due to deficiencies in what the USA knew...

So pray fools..."Truth's" misleadin, the information's just too deceivin
It comes down to whether or not you'll die for what you believe in
Wonderin if provin reasons is meant for irrelevance
It's just the risk you take in the Agency of Central Intelligence

It's mental imbellishment, the mind's bias defines lies and scandal
Applied by vandals to the world scene that we gotta try to handle
Political radicals, defied a plan to break new metered bombs
This Socialist cancer can only be stopped if we amputate nuclear arms
Primary objective: Infiltrate the missle base we been sent to scout
A new fear for harm cuz if we're apprehended they'll never let me out
I contemplate a darker fate, CIA promised they'd protect me; how?
It's conceivable the Korean government could probably arrest me now!
Before we even set in motion what we intended from the outset
We needa pull the plug on the power of local media outlets
The disguise and alibi for our presence isn't even about facts
But the cover-up should be more than enough so nobody'll doubt that

"Being deep in an enemy country surrounded by potentially hostile groups has brought a reality check along with it...the guys back home better have planned this properly...We gotta remain inconspicuous..."

It's a mouse trap..."Truth's" misleadin, the information's just too deceivin
It comes down to whether or not you'll die for what you believe in
Wonderin if provin reasons is meant for irrelevance
It's just the risk you take in the Agency of Central Intelligence

At 11:10 a potential development...it appears local feds have arrived
I was in the hallway outside our room when an agent yelled "Get back inside!"
Before I could respond, I was caught and we hadn't even enacted crime
Against this government they're on some other shit, either that or Mathis lied
But how could we have an informant within the team workin for the enemy
I'm captured live and starin across at the reason they apprehended me
A veritable Two-Face just moved fate & this ain't makin sense to me...
How could he have had affiliations to Asians and hid the tendency?
How'd he get with me; I can't believe this woulda happened eventually
No matter what this is what my years of hard work were meant to be
I was brought to the base, interrogated endlessly but watched in horror
What the hell is morality when I couldn't even tell between Cops & Robbers
But then the guise was broke, thier process was somethin out of a Bond movie
Claimed they'd reveal the scope of events but then they was gon' shoot me
I was appalled truly...I heard Illuminati and then it was clear to me
My entire life had been spent as a single cog within a conspiracy!
World goverment worked fearlessly as a single machine hidden
Cleaned religion, I finally understood Daniel's prophetic dream visions
Shit's been laid out, the last world power will devour the known system
I'm almost glad they're about to kill me cuz I don't wanna go with 'em...

"I was betrayed by my own people, my own government!! I can't believe it's true...One world rulership...the illuminati...the beast in Daniel...it all makes sense...damnit!! God help me......and even moreso the pitiful souls left to endure this mass exodus..."

...*BLAOW*...

Bleak truth hurts...defeat's too perverse...
Rest in Peace, future...

Ike-One
05-20-2005, 02:07 AM
May 11th, 2005:
North Korea has announced that it is taking steps to increase its nuclear arsenal.

May 19, 2005:
US and North Korean officials have held direct talks as tension continues over North Korea's nuclear weapons programme.

"….The Bush Administration…."
"….The Bush Administration…."
"This is a broadcast live from CNN… The Bush Administration has stated…"

This is a real current event ladies and gents…

The Beginning of th End…


"Attention, this is not a simulation, I repeat, not a demonstration, your mission is not a vacation,
According to the Bush Administration, for the rest of your duration, you must pursue-the-infiltration,
Find any information, do-it-for-your-nation, your one and only chance, to avoid-elimination,
Your life is in the hands of your well-trained voice-of-imitation, with 1 month as limitation,

Well-disguised damned-within-strife of a Korean man-with-his-wife, but in my pants-is a-knife,
Faking desperate poverty, understand-that's-the-hype, not by my own vendetta, they just hand-me-this-life,
So for the past couple weeks, I'm a civilian, trained-with-the-eye, 'questioning' nuclear 'testing',
Korea's stained-with-the-lies, I feel it, my natural aim-as-a-spy, but we can't rush for the fear of over-pressing,
But time was draggin out, only 3 days-at-best, no ways-were-left, not enough information to pay-my-debts,
So I thugged a security guard, took his ID, calmly walked-to-the-gate, locked-so-I-wait,
Til a guy came by, faked talked-like-were-mates, dissed cocks-in-the-states, man all this hate…

Once inside the facility, I agilely slid-to-the-right, into a room with no windows where day could be night,
Barely missed-this-dude's-sight, as he left the room, and beside his food and Korean stew-and-Bud-light,
There was an shadowy silouhette, of what I needed to exploit-the-deceit, without noise-I-retrieved,
But before I could leave, you wouldn't believe, how many Koreans could fit in one room as a fleet,
Wind-at-my-feet, to avoid-getting-beat, I sought-for-retreat, only to get shot-into-a-seat,
And I cursed and I muttered, there had been less-than-week, but my skill had just-leaked,

…And so the drama begins…

I was drowsy, drugged, weary-eye heavy, when they dragged me to a dark room, lightly lit by a candle,
Hands tied together, spy-ready, as they ungagged me, but still ready-to-handle, held as the unsteady-vandal,
One punch me, one slapped, while the other slowly placed my own knife-my-thigh,
I screamed, as I plastered vomit on the rag, while the taste-swiped-my-mind-dry,
They asked abstract questions, testing my psyche whilst I responded by spitting blood on the desk,
They runts-then-cut-my-chest, I was impediment, beginning to question the idiotic choice-of-this-quest,
My pants were moist, but my lips were not wet, except by the crimson tears ex'd by the stitch of this mess,


They cackled, as they each pulled a thread from my mouth, each time demandingly going on with interrogation,
Imagine my situation, when I could not mutter a single word, but I could scream in aggravation,
The sweat mixed with blood, and the smell of my fear, as it slow motionly dripped in sight of my vision,
In spite of decisions, I was being gripped, tortured to, would I survive? Fuck, who am I kiddin,
Silence with violence, overwhelmed my the pain of my body, while I considered my wife and the life of my kids,
They dripped acid on my back, whilst I heard my blood fizz, still I did not answer, when I was hit and clothes ripped,
When you feel so much pain, it puts things in perspective, they flame you, the tame you, so much more effective,
Back in America, they preach, how they'll always be protective, but who protects the protected,
'cause now my brain is infected, the pain is injected, a needled in my wrist says "Man, you're dead in a second,"
I felt it ripple-through-my-vains, tripling-the-pain, I groaned, thinking of names, what do you want! Fuck how I's trained,
America's to blame, I take it all back, I'm on Korea's side in this game, just free me, unleash me, it's all just the same,

So I give the the info, betray my own country, as they quickly untie-the-ropes, no lies-that-I-spoke,
Walked out the door, grin on my face, now that I know Koreans don't joke,
The sun light dawns, the first time in weeks do I see my own shadow, relief surrounds me, done with the battle,
But too soon do I speak, cause then I hear the guns rattle, am I in trouble? I swear, it's the truth that I tattled!
To my own demise, just outside the door, is my CIA-Team, then they find out what happen, no way-to-redeem,
I walk to my fellow operative agent, "Kid, hand me the gun", the second I get it, bang, I'm done with the hunt,
Thanks for the rescue, next time, don't leave me for months…

And it always ends with "According to the Bush Administration…"

Strat!
05-20-2005, 01:27 PM
Orc: You had a real nice piece, the flow was outstanding aswell as you had some good multies in their, i felt that the vocab was one of your strongest points aswell as the hook that summed up nicely. As for the topic, i felt that you didnt really take it into the real depths that you could of...i felt that you didnt take us through the torturing well enough and the questioning, and it wasnt really all explained until the last verse. But it was a good piece notherless.

Ike: Damn, i cant understand why your lines have got so long....but apart from that you had some ill multies, though i didnt understand why you had to dash them everytime. You wrote the topic real well....straight to the point and you went through the torturing and questioning and stayed on topic nicely.

Overall, i felt that in structure and flow-orc took it, but, as it was down to the topic and who stayed on, i give it to ike because thats where my enjoyment came from when readin it, although the lines were way stretched, i still felt that he had a better way of telling the story. Amazing pieces from both of you and a real good battle.

Arminius
05-20-2005, 04:47 PM
Whoa...

This was a very good battle. Both of ya came hard and really displayed your talents with this topic. Both were some excellent reads, but as we all know only one can advance to the finals. So now I continue with my critique on both drops.

Orc: First off lemme say that this shit was a hell of a drop. You had a strong hook and the vocab really helped the drop out IMO. You had really good use of multis in here also that helped the drop. The flow IMO was mos def on point. No complaining in this area. I felt that you could of really went into a lot more detail about the toturing, questioning the kidnapping etc. "I" feel that when one is writing a topical out. One must follow what is asked for in topic. And I feel that you coulda really explored this and took your drop to a "whole other level". I felt that you came hard, but just failed in really following the topic. Other than what I have mentioned I still feel that you came strong and it was good drop regardless.

Ike: First thing I need to say is that your lines were too stretched. But I realize that you do more audio, and hardly do text anymore. So I know there is a difference when approaching a topic like this. What I enjoyed about this drop is that you had some killer mutlis in there and you kept me into the drop the whole way through. You didnt play around with this, you got to the point and really gave me some killer imagery which in turn painted a great mental picture...I felt the big difference in this battle was that Orc didnt stay on the topic like I felt he shoulda. Where you were very descriptive with the torturing, questioning etc...IMO this is what helped me with a outcome for this battle.
Vote: Ike

THE TRUTH
05-20-2005, 05:20 PM
Here is my vote.

Once again I have read both pieces more than once, and considered the comments of those who voted above me.

You know that constant bust of eardrums, the end of tap-tappin'?
Ike, aint no lines that long in the art of rappin', captain
Korea, CIA, FBI, MI6, assassin
It really don't matter till that baton you pass it
You stayed on topic but ... I cannot
condone the weakness of flow
I seen you write better, I'd think you would know
Don't sacrifice or stretch 'em lines for the method of story
Though Orc took the topic his own way, why be the last to his glory?
I think otherwise, voters must be nut-huggin, cum in eyes
Orc's flow was better, watch how I show you fellaz
Look at these lines, see the scripture, forecast, know the weather:

I was appalled truly...I heard Illuminati and then it was clear to me
My entire life had been spent as a single cog within a conspiracy!
World goverment worked fearlessly as a single machine hidden
Cleaned religion, I finally understood Daniel's prophetic dream visions
Shit's been laid out, the last world power will devour the known system
I'm almost glad they're about to kill me cuz I don't wanna go with 'em...


Those above lines by Orc made it clear to me that he had the most coherent story. While Ike stayed true to the topic and how we would expect him to write it; I have long been of the view that peeps should be accredited for original storytelling with a purpose.

I think these were both fabulous efforts, but for the reasons set out above, and because I can't stand to see "actual rhyming" rewarded, my vote is issued in the favor of ORCUSANTE

I must say though, I felt that at times Orc's lines strayed a lil long myself, but it would really come down to how he flows it. I simply can't get around the fact that one of Ike's lines actually equal three though.

Just my view.

WUNZUNO
THE TRUTH

Han Solo
05-21-2005, 01:11 AM
my votes for Orc.

At first i kinda looked at Ike's verse as if it was kinda shabby. But then, i noticed he followed the format of the topic exactly as it was told. I respect that, but i think as a writer your supposed to be a little stubborn and don't do exactly as your are told. I think you give you interpretation of it and feel like Orc's was closer to that. Eventhough i like the fact that Ike stay on topic and described the torturing and capture well, i have to go with Orc.

I also think Orc and Ike would make terrible CIA agents...one of the first rules is to NEVER get caught not try not to. And if you do, you die with your information cuz they'll kill you anyway when you ARE caught. Then you become a star on a wall in the CIA's building.

Vokals
05-24-2005, 03:13 AM
imma get down to the skinny...

Flow-Orc due to shorter lines it went a little better to me
Multis- Ike, natural audio deal, even though ur lines were longer u came w/ nice multis
Metas-Ike, which really helped u with your next topic
Imagery- Ike, it was set up w/ your metas and just the way you worded things made things mentally visible
Enjoyable- Ike's fealt he was a little more on topic and loved his angle of it
Depth- Ike, the last 3 items stated help set up his depth
Vocab- Orc..u always have vocab, but u try using vocab wayyyy toooo much, takes away from the drop when using too much vocab..
Overall- Ike

Ike surprised me honestly, i didnt think he'd come at the angle he would, he went right to the down and dirty and the point of the drop, didnt really bullshit it and rush it, it was all natural in occurrence...
orc i fealt u came a little off topic too, lacked quality multis, and tooo much big verbage...

great read, closer than i show but big ups to both...