View Full Version : Beef & Shit Talk Thread Pt3


Vokals
05-15-2005, 10:19 PM
Put it in here.....

-NoX-
05-16-2005, 02:43 AM
Up against iller but thats cool, nice topic i see.

NaCirema_NY
05-16-2005, 11:32 AM
Fuck You All.

D-Illar-1
05-17-2005, 05:09 PM
Fuck You All.

You had no shot at winning anyway...

NaCirema_NY
05-18-2005, 02:30 PM
^You Crazy...Who The Fuck Are You? Do You Know Me? Oh...Oh, I Thought Not...

D-Illar-1
05-18-2005, 03:38 PM
^You Crazy...Who The Fuck Are You? Do You Know Me? Oh...Oh, I Thought Not...

I know I'm better than you...And don't even go there and say I can't spit. I'd rip you in audio, too. So, once again, you weren't gonna win anyway.

THE TRUTH
05-18-2005, 03:45 PM
Interesting ...

D-Illar-1
05-18-2005, 04:16 PM
Interesting ...

^If you weren't matched up against me, or if I didn't fill in, you'd prolly be in the finals...

Xkwisite
05-18-2005, 05:11 PM
......Illar......taking after his Father.....




Ahhhh.......





*tear*




My Son Has Grown Up Beautifully.....






*smirk*

D-Illar-1
05-18-2005, 05:17 PM
......Illar......taking after his Father.....




Ahhhh.......





*tear*




My Son Has Grown Up Beautifully.....






*smirk*

I can reverse the family tree on you, too...Pop....

=))

-NoX-
05-18-2005, 05:17 PM
anyone even finished their topics yet?..i got like 12 lines to go

D-Illar-1
05-18-2005, 05:18 PM
anyone even finished their topics yet?..i got like 12 lines to go

I'm keying my verse now...Might do a little today, and finish the end tomorrow...

THE TRUTH
05-18-2005, 05:23 PM
^If you weren't matched up against me, or if I didn't fill in, you'd prolly be in the finals...


I didn't take it as a loss. The piece was well written and no lines were wasted. I read what you wrote to my girl and she liked it too; so I figured it'd go either way. I dont think either of us was 'better' than the next. The same would've applied if I won. We had the finals in the first round (so to speak).

Either way, I'll be looking at the rest of the Tourney.

That is the nature of any Tourney. You win some, you lose some. Like life.

WUNZUNO
THE TRUTH

D-Illar-1
05-18-2005, 05:27 PM
I didn't take it as a loss. The piece was well written and no lines were wasted. I read what you wrote to my girl and she liked it too; so I figured it'd go either way. I dont think either of us was 'better' than the next. The same would've applied if I won. We had the finals in the first round (so to speak).

Either way, I'll be looking at the rest of the Tourney.

That is the nature of any Tourney. You win some, you lose some. Like life.

WUNZUNO
THE TRUTH

I admit, I was feeling your shit too. Just by how you mentioned a lot of the history of the site.

-NoX-
05-18-2005, 08:19 PM
Pop open the champayne, i've finished my verse. Just checking for spelling errors and stuff, and it's really complex so be prepared...

-NoX-
05-18-2005, 11:29 PM
Just dropped mine now...good luck to both of you.

NaCirema_NY
05-19-2005, 12:14 AM
I know I'm better than you...And don't even go there and say I can't spit. I'd rip you in audio, too. So, once again, you weren't gonna win anyway.

Your Fucking Lying. LMFAO At You Internet Niggas...This Nigga Says He 'Knows' He Better Than Me...LMFAO From WHAT?! A Fucking Drop On A Website? You Can't Be Serious, Nigga...The Fuck Outta Hea.

-NoX-
05-19-2005, 05:21 AM
Don't think i went too far with my narrative part of my topical. Hope Arminius and Iller manage to drop soon.

D-Illar-1
05-19-2005, 03:37 PM
Your Fucking Lying. LMFAO At You Internet Niggas...This Nigga Says He 'Knows' He Better Than Me...LMFAO From WHAT?! A Fucking Drop On A Website? You Can't Be Serious, Nigga...The Fuck Outta Hea.

If you want, we can pick up a mic >:/ ....And Internet niggas? Wow. How about that mixtape you got, that's going double-dog shit? Please, nigga. If you got a mixtape and you trying to move units(even if you really did it), the last thing you need to be doing is being on a website. Pass out cheap ass fliers or something.

Fuck outta here. I can't believe you just try to call me an "internet nigga". Ain't you the one that registered here like 8 times? Okay, keep it moving.

NaCirema_NY
05-19-2005, 04:49 PM
^Woooooo, My Feelings Hurt. And Back With All That Banning Shit I Was Still On House Arrest You Bumb Ass Nigga...Secondly, I Move Mixtapes, And If I Was So Garbage I Wouldn't Be Workin On A Part Two You Faggot. Fa Ya Info, My Biggest Profit Come Straight Outta Yo State, You Herb Ass Nigga...Yeah I Got My Base In NY, But It Ain't These NY Niggas That's Bringin In The Money For Me...It's You Down South Niggas...MD, DC, And VA...And How You Gonna Call Me Garbage When Last Year In August They Had Me On Air With Rayne On 95.5 You Bum Ass Nigga. What You Doing With YOUR Life? Makin A Bunch Of Shit Ass Drops? Like I Said, What I Do On This Site Don't Effect What I Do In Real Life At All...With That Said, Put Down The Keyboard, And Book A Session. Ask About Me Nigga...My Shit Is All Over Richmond, Fredricksburg, Stafford, And King George Niggas Is My Best Customers...Been Had You VA Niggas On My Dick...LMFAO...And The Day I Put Audio On My Computer Will Be The Day You Stop Coming On RW...Like I Said...You's A INTERNET NIGGA...All Your Shit Is Online (i.e. You Just A Audio Battling Nigga)...Get A Studio, Get A Mic, Then Get A Life...SHMSH...All These Birds Ass Niggas, Yet They STILL Ain't 'Droppin' SHIT'...

D-Illar-1
05-19-2005, 04:55 PM
All These Birds Ass Niggas, Yet They STILL Ain't 'Droppin' SHIT'...

^That's a perfect example of why I shit on you...And uh, fuck a VA. VA niggas have no capacity of what real hip-hop is. The only thing I give niggas here props for are buying Smack DVDs. Anyway, good for you. But once I get my shit done(in the studio, by the way), you can kiss your little Girl Scout cookie chump-change goodbye.

I should say a wack ass punchline right here to make myself think I'm cool, but you already did that. Go get yourself a new account or something. You're worst than Spit Ill.

I'm a internet nigga, but you sitting here on the computer trying to brag about shit. Wow. Hypocritical faggot. Tighten up. Go ahead and keep talking. I'm ignoring you.

NaCirema_NY
05-19-2005, 05:13 PM
I'm ignoring you.

No You're Not...If You Are, Then Dont Read The Rest Of This, Nigga...LMFAO That's Some Preeschool Shit..."Nannny Naaaaaah, I Can't Hear You..." LMFAO Nigga I Ain't Braggin I'm Just Puttin To Rest The Fact That You Cant Discredit Me As A Good MC...You Aiight, But I'm Out Of Your Bracket...You 15, Be Concerned With Makin It To The 11th Grade Next Year My Man...

VA niggas have no capacity of what real hip-hop is.

^My Point Exactly...You Just Killed Yourself...Bird.

ANyway...I'm Bout Ta Finish Packin My Bags, Cuz Im Off To Georgia For 3 Days, Starting @ 3AM...I'ma Move Some Units Down Thea And Show Them Niggas What REAL Hip Hop Is...Not That Crunk Shit...

D-Illar-1
05-19-2005, 05:23 PM
No You're Not...If You Are, Then Dont Read The Rest Of This, Nigga...LMFAO That's Some Preeschool Shit..."Nannny Naaaaaah, I Can't Hear You..." LMFAO Nigga I Ain't Braggin I'm Just Puttin To Rest The Fact That You Cant Discredit Me As A Good MC...You Aiight, But I'm Out Of Your Bracket...You 15, Be Concerned With Makin It To The 11th Grade Next Year My Man...



^My Point Exactly...You Just Killed Yourself...Bird.

ANyway...I'm Bout Ta Finish Packin My Bags, Cuz Im Off To Georgia For 3 Days, Starting @ 3AM...I'ma Move Some Units Down Thea And Show Them Niggas What REAL Hip Hop Is...Not That Crunk Shit...

I only live in VA. I'm from Camden. And 11th grade? I already passed all those classes. I take AP classes, kiddo. Maybe you should worry about yourself. And I can discredit you. I haven't heard SHIIIITTTT you done. So until I hear something from you, I can do what I wanna nigga.

-NoX-
05-19-2005, 05:35 PM
Not long before time runs out. Wishin you both the best of luck.

ROSE.
05-20-2005, 01:25 AM
Hmmm...
Illar, I kinda expected better...
*shrugs*
Oddly enough though, yours kept my attention more than arminius' or ghosts...

Arminius
05-20-2005, 01:28 AM
^
:(
.......

ROSE.
05-20-2005, 01:29 AM
^doesnt mean yours was bad, at all..lol :p

-NoX-
05-20-2005, 07:33 AM
^^*cry*, my day is ruined lol

ROSE.
05-20-2005, 05:08 PM
I would just like to say, stretching bars too much is almost like cheating...you get alot more content out of it than just a normal, flowing verse...giving the other person a disadvantage..

Just my opinion...
1z..

Ike-One
05-20-2005, 05:57 PM
I agree, it's not fair to the other person. But, it can't necessarily be declared the writer's fault if they did it unintentionally. For instance, if their monitor keeps a line that may appear extended on your monitor, but on their monitor, it still stays on the same row, is can it really be considered cheating? Especially if the person doesn't do text often.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/prodigymytch/dfc591d7.jpg

J. Cyrus
05-20-2005, 06:15 PM
^Well you're an audio head, you should know how many syllables per line generally constitute good flow...It's iight though, it's all in the spirit of elevation...

Ike-One
05-20-2005, 06:59 PM
Yeah... But I admit, I intentionally write my bars out a little bit longer than my audios. Using the same philosophy though, I also intentionally put more multies in my text. And word play has a lot more flexibility in text as well. And if I did the thing where I size my text down like many of the others, I'm sure it would shorten quite a bit....

But anyway, sorry about that Orc, and 'preciate not blowing it out of proportion.... you've gotten a lot calmer over the past month.... -__-

J. Cyrus
05-20-2005, 07:28 PM
^LoL, sometimes life tends to put shit into perspective...

THE TRUTH
05-20-2005, 07:54 PM
Either way, I am of the belief -- like I'm sure many of us are -- that people should not be aspiring to write differently dependant upon audio or text. There is one type of lyricism -- it happens when your shit flows and it has nothing to do with a weak ass battle or a bunch of multi-syllabic-hypenated-words.

When I first came on RW, over 2 years ago, I saw this same shit and couldn't get peepz to see that it made no sense to separate the different forms of writing between audio and text. By doing that, a lot of people that flow a helluva lot better than others get less recognition.

Y'all should think it over, it'd really make you appreciate rhyming more, and have you seeing the essence of hip-hop music. There are many ways to say the same thing; find a method that doesn't utilize near-hypocritical methods.

WUNZUNO
THE TRUTH

Ike-One
05-20-2005, 08:01 PM
Truth, I see where you're coming from, and I respect your opinion.

But, you have to understand, I'm a product of my environment. I write battles to win. To win, you have to consider your audience, not what you believe is truly correct. If EVERYONE thought like you, I would write my text with shorter lines, and much more like my audio, because that's what they want. But that isn't the case. People look for complexity, and multies almost as much, if not more, as they do flow.

Audio is completely different though. I do audio for myself. I do occassional battles but not enough... I mainly just watch the arena. But in audio, who's votes are you trying to win? None. When someone looks at your audios do they catagorize things? Sure, they mention your delivery, your flow, rhyme scheme, etc. But, let's face it. It's not how THE WRITER approaches his verse completely. It's also how the audience approaches what the writer has written. And after that's taken into consideration, as a writer, we have to appeal to our audience. And you said it yourself - people don't share your philosophy yet... but when they do, I will adapt.

THE TRUTH
05-20-2005, 08:06 PM
I can respect that, but how can you promote change if you're so willing to appease incorrect views?

Ike-One
05-20-2005, 08:20 PM
Good question, and I can't honestly answer you. ONE person cannot revolutionize the way people vote. Not even TWO people can revolutionize it, if you and I teamed up. Because you and I both know that there are stubborn people on RW who will never open their mind up to that style. They've been conditioned to read text for certain fundamentals which cancel out certain other ones that you may find more significant.

This in mind, I strategically chosen to just go with the flow. IF the perspective of votes begins to change, then I will change the way I write. However, I troubles seeing that ever happening even if I promoted it as my name isn't exactly a textcee name. I'm not even an official vet, nor do I really care if I am or not. But I can't help but reiterate - I battle to win, I think in terms of winning, and if multies is what they want, then multies is what they get, if wordplay is what they want, then wordplay is what they get, and if I have to sacrifice structure, for 2 or 3 other categories, then strategically, it isn't a bad trade off. And with time, I will master the structure just as well as I do the other fundamentals.

ROSE.
05-20-2005, 08:21 PM
and multies almost as much, if not more, as they do flow.
There is such a thing as too much multis, Ike, remember that...
And also...don't write to please people...most people at this site get too caught up in winning and gaining respect..but what for? If you write..write for yourself..write to elevate..no matter if people "like" it or not...If people can't appreciate it, than don't worry about it, this site means shit at the end..it's what you learn from it that counts..and most everyone already know how to please a majority..just look at the mainstream...

So..say you win this topical tournement...say you become the best at RW....
What next? It doesnt give you shit in the real world...

J. Cyrus
05-20-2005, 08:21 PM
Ike ya approach just perpetuates the ignorant perception that exists...conforming to it for the sake of mass acceptance just feeds into the problem...don't compromise whatchu believe in...

Ike-One
05-20-2005, 08:26 PM
I admit, I conform. But we all do to win battles. And Rose, I completely agree. Write for yourself. And I do... just not in battles. I don't take battles seriously as I do actual writing. I consider battles an exercise to extend my ability in the writing fundamentals that I take seriously. But in the process, I also aim to win. I don't think it's as shallow as it sounds to confess that one writes towards their audience in order to win a battle.

And Rose, you're right. Winning the topical tourney isn't going to do shyt for me in the long run. But it getting as far as I do, no matter what, is nothing short of good practice.

ROSE.
05-20-2005, 08:29 PM
If your goal is to practice in battles, at least do it the right way...don't give in to what people like, cuz most of the time they dont know shit...appeal to those you KNOW are good...

Ike-One
05-20-2005, 08:35 PM
Valid point. And in the times that come ahead, I will definitely consider all three of your opinions.

BTW, this is a horrible Beef & Shit thread.

ROSE.
05-20-2005, 08:40 PM
lmfao.....marc's gonna hate this...

J. Cyrus
05-20-2005, 08:53 PM
LoL...Noooooo!! CIVIL DISCUSSION IN THE BEEF THREAD WtF...

Ike-One
05-21-2005, 11:27 AM
When did Johnny come back?

MN4L
05-21-2005, 06:31 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/kennethcs/Forum%20Stuff/anotherintro.jpg (http://musicniggas.com/forum/index.php?referid=409
)

Vokals
05-21-2005, 06:49 PM
less chitter chatter...more beef....you bastids.... :mad: