View Full Version : Our Privacy Is Gone..fuck America...


The Obscured
05-26-2005, 12:00 AM
READ ALL OF IT LOL, AND IF YOUR GOING TO BE A LAZY LITTLE FUCK, JUST READ THE BOLD PART.

Well, now we've done it.

Congress just passed it and Dubya has promised to sign it and the Homeland Security Department is giddier than Mel Gibson in a nail factory over it and marketers nationwide are salivating at the groin at the prospect of it, and the next big step toward America becoming an even more delightfully paranoid and draconian Big Brother wonderland has now officially been taken.

It's called Real ID. It is, in short, a new and genetically mutated type of driver's license for all Americans, replacing your current license and replacing your Social Security card and replacing your sense of well being and privacy and humanity and part of a new, uniform, deeply sinister, national uniform card system whereby every person living and breathing in these paranoid and tense times shall henceforth be much more traceable and watchable given how we will all soon be required by law to carry this super-deluxe computerized ID card with us at all times, packed as it will be with more personal, digitized info about you than even your mother knows.

Real ID is coming very soon. The legislation was passed with little outcry and zero debate by both House and Senate just last week because lawmakers snuck it into a massive $82 billion military spending bill, and therefore no one was really paying much attention and this is the way you get thorny disturbing culturally demeaning bills to pass without resistance from smart people who should know better.

The new law will, according to the Wired News story linked above, require everyone to hand over not one, not two, but fully four types of documentation to renew their driver's license, such as a photo ID, a birth certificate, proof that their Social Security number is legit and something that validates their home address, like a phone bill. DMV employees will then have to verify the documents against giant teeming federal databases and store the documents and a digital photo of you in a database. Isn't that fun? Doesn't that sound gratifying?

What's more, the card's design plan includes multiple openings for the Homeland Security Department to add on whatever features they deem necessary, with or without your knowledge, consent or who the hell cares what you think because we do what we want now please shut the hell up and quit asking questions.

Computer (RFID) microchip? Likely. Digital fingerprint? Sure. Political affiliation? You bet. Web-site-visit log and religious affiliation and recent sperm count and arrest record and drug addictions and medical history and blood type and gender orientation and parent's/children's home address and number of personal blog posts calling Dr. Phil a "slug-licking ego-bitch charlatan" and your recent purchase history on shotathome.com? One guess.

Make no mistake: Real ID, in short, takes us one happy step closer to a total surveillance state, where everyone is stamped and everyone is watchable and everyone is traceable and unless you live way, way off the grid out in the increasingly nonexistent hinterlands, you cannot escape the spazzy and twitchy and paranoid eye of Homeland Security.

Remember the scenes in that surprisingly not-awful Tom Cruise flick "Minority Report" with the ubiquitous eye scanners, installed all over the near-future city? And as poor Tommy ran around like a maniac, little scanner machines installed by the gummint would read the eye pattern of every citizen as they walked around and the system could track anyone at any time no matter where they might wander and all the info was dumped into a huge database that was studied and cross-checked and manipulated by the CIA and FBI and Banana Republic?

Real ID feels much like that, only not nearly as cool.

Real ID is, as you might expect, giving civil liberties groups and immigrant-support groups the hives. State governors across the nation are none too happy, either, as implementation of the new law will cost each state hundreds of millions of dollars, but, of course, the bill provides zero federal funds to help. Such is the BushCo way.

This is the funny thing. This is the sad thing. This is the terrifying thing. We have suffered one major debilitating act of terrorism in this nation and we have recoiled so violently, so rabidly, so desperately that we are still more than willing to give up whatever freedoms necessary in a vain and silly attempt to control chaos and plug every hole, when of course the nation is basically one giant hole to begin with.

Of course, any good conspiracy theorist worth his secret underground bootleg Area 51 videos will tell you this sort of citizen-surveillance thing has been going on for years, decades, from spy satellites to GPS to all manner of phone tracking and e-mail snooping and behavior watching and this Real ID thing only takes it a little more public, national, makes it part of the cultural lexicon because we have finally weakened so much we just don't seem to give a damn what they do to us anymore.

Don't think it's all that bad? Think BushCo's flying monkeys in the CIA and FBI and Homeland Security really have your best interests at heart and are genuinely trying to protect you from scary swarthy furriners who want to sneak into our country and poison our Cheerios and paint our flag orange and cover our wimmin in burlap? Have at it. The GOP would love to have you. Oh, and while you're at it, enjoy that tiny grain-of-rice-size bar-coded implant RFID microchip the FDA just approved, which they can permanently slip under your skin in under 20 minutes, with nary a peep.

This is what's happening now. With Real ID (and who knows what else), the government is cracking down and creating a new and improved and far more devious and exploitable system to monitor its citizens because, well, because we let them. Because millions of us have been pummeled so successfully by the fear-mongering Right. Because we have never been so lax, so blinded by warmongering and dread, so numbed to what might become of us.

Ah, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is just rampant paranoia talking and it's just a silly piece of harmless legislation and Real ID is overall a genuinely good and useful idea that will ultimately make us safer and more secure. You think?

Because hasn't BushCo proven to be reliable and honest and just reeking with integrity about privacy and security issues so far? Hasn't the USA Patriot Act been just a wondrous boon to police and CIA and our sense that we are trusted and cared for by our government? Aren't we all feeling just so much safer with this most secretive, least accountable administration at the helm?

After all, why not trust the government on this? Why not put our faith in the goodly Homeland Security Department? Maybe Real ID really is patriotic and constructive and it will be a smooth and secure and completely inviolable system, one that protects citizens while giving them a new sense of freedom to move about the country with carefree flag-waving ease, safe in the knowledge that their big, snarling gummint is watching over them like a protective mother bear -- as opposed to, say, a female praying mantis, who greedily screws her lover, and then, of course, eats him alive.

Vokals
05-26-2005, 12:06 AM
pretty shitty...ur privacy isnt safe w/ me either being i am gov'ment

The Spectrum
05-26-2005, 12:12 AM
Oh Canada, our home and native free land






:)





HAHAHAHAH so much


everyone though

if you got weed you can visit me
if you got weed and nice titties you can even sleep over

Dras
05-26-2005, 12:14 AM
yup.....lets all goto Canada

Vokals
05-26-2005, 12:17 AM
yup.....lets all goto Canada



and be a bunch of pussies right?

Dras
05-26-2005, 12:21 AM
Hey...were Americans...that's what we do..

And the ones who usually fight we like to call "hypocrites"

The Spectrum
05-26-2005, 12:24 AM
and be a bunch of pussies right?


:mad:


why would you make a ignorant comment like that ?


even in humour, its not funny at all

the French are pussies







"dont confuse kindness for weakness" - Guru

Vokals
05-26-2005, 12:29 AM
u aint even canadian...ur just stuck...or had to move against ur will...

BIG SIX
05-26-2005, 12:40 AM
GOOD POST

Add that to the effect of the US PATRIOT ACT!!!

Nappy
05-26-2005, 01:37 AM
The Mark of The Beast is not make believe...This may not be it
but it seems a step closer to it

Wreckin Eyez
05-26-2005, 01:45 AM
So what? You're over reacting. All they're going to know is our past records like arrests and shit, and it's going to have a tracker chip in it which is for wanted criminals. It's not like they care enough about you to follow you around by that chip at all times. People seriously overestimate their importance in this world. You act like they're going to know every girl we sleep with or everything we've ever done or do. The only thing they are going to know is the shit they know anyway. It's just going to be more accessible like this.

And this aint new, active military already carry these cards. They've had these cards for a long time. They are used for everything I just stated above, except they also have rank, test scores, and much more personal stuff than they're going to know about any of the public.

BIG SIX
05-26-2005, 02:48 AM
^^^^^you always amaze me with your stupidness...

Wreckin Eyez
05-26-2005, 02:51 AM
^^Smh @ that. Explain how any of the true statements I said above were stupid?

BIG SIX
05-26-2005, 02:57 AM
It's a dangerous thing when your government takes your rights and then starts tracking you. I don't feel like typing more than that. Have you read the PATRIOT ACT?

Wreckin Eyez
05-26-2005, 03:14 AM
See, this is my point. People believe they're actually important enough for the government to want to track them. Even with those chips, it would cost the Government money to track you. Whether or not you're worth the cost matters. They're not going to track you down for a traffic ticket. The only time they would use it is if you commited murder or another high level violent crime. Which then I agree they should be able to track you.

BIG SIX
05-26-2005, 04:14 AM
You don't see the big picture. It's ALL of these things combined that are a problem. Does the government serve the people, or do the people serve the government? That is the balence that is shifting.

Wreckin Eyez
05-26-2005, 04:55 AM
Balance, and it's not shifting. It's never shifted. The government has been as much in control now as it has ever been. It's just nobody noticed it before because we were naive. We're still naive. We don't see what's really happening. Either we believe the government is great, or it's evil. We don't see it for what it really is. This is not being done to control anybody, whether you want to believe it or not. This is being done for people's safety. Think about it, they're not making you get an implant here. It's a card that can be taken out of your pocket and thrown in the street. That doesn't give them much control does it?

Like I said, people just want to believe they're important. They want to believe the government gives a shit what they do in their personal life. You are Columbian drug lords here. They arnt bugging your phones. They do not give a shit about you. When 9/11 happened, the country was thinking about the people in it and the families of the people in it. The government was thinking that their trade was going to be expensive for a while. Do you realize how little you mean to the government now?

And before some people start some shit about "Bush blew up the towers." Yeah? So what? Not everybody in the government is going to know about that. The government is more than those directly in the White House.

So it's not that I don't see the big picture. It's that you see a bigger picture than is actually there.

G-money1831
05-26-2005, 06:15 AM
this is funny, 2 da ppl who rly need 2 aviod all this, its easy, IT DOENS"T HELP SHIT........GPS can be jammed very easy, u can build a jammer yoself!!

this is mo 4 fake criminals, like ilegal imigrants and shit!! not tha real criminals!!! after all the real once, are the once in charged :D!!

but of course this is way goin 2 far!!! this is just some1 wet dream, who wants to ttrack celebs everywhere and satellite tape them while they fuckin!!!!!

G-money1831
05-26-2005, 06:20 AM
9/11 sadis caused all this, think bout it, WHO PROFITED MOST FROM IT??? THE FEDS, CIA, ANY AGENCY, now they can do w/e they want 2 whoever whereever on da globe!!!! now it iant' called a "black ope" no mo, now its legal!!!!


sadis PLZ, THEY GON MAKE U GET UN IMPLANT, itz very simple the matters they do it by, but i ain't gon tell ya!!!!!


sadis with that chip or even da real ID, they can follow u by satellite 24/7!!!! u want taht? of course they might not follow u, but important ppl they will!!!!!

G-money1831
05-26-2005, 06:22 AM
oh and sadis, U CANT JUST THROW THA CHIP AWAY, agreed?

NaCirema_NY
05-26-2005, 01:16 PM
^You're Not Even From Cali. Why Does Your IP Show A Location In The Netherlands, And An Earlier One In Tel Aviv?


About The Thread - TWO WORDS: Population Control...

The Mark of The Beast is not make believe...This may not be it
but it seems a step closer to it

^True...But Wait Until They Begin The Compulsory ID Cards...

G-money1831
05-26-2005, 01:20 PM
the wut id cards??

ny fuck u, u dont no wut ya talkin bout?! u a totall idiot!!!

NaCirema_NY
05-26-2005, 01:25 PM
^LoL...Maybe We Should Get BusterHymen In Here To Confirm What I Said...Isn't That Right, Multiplexed? Why Have You Been Messin Around All This Time, Posing As A Character Named "G-Money?" The Joke's Over...

Oh, And To *X L*, Our Privacy Has BEEN Gone...Even Way Before Eisenhower Created Social Security, So Why Are You Saying "Fuck America" Just Now?...

G-money1831
05-26-2005, 01:30 PM
oh u rly u got me huh?! funny, but u dont no wut ya talkin bout!!!!
u see next time u might find me in china, haert of hte words, nmv!!!!

ny u form da east, u stupid!!! back then it was diff IDIOT!!!!!!

The Obscured
05-26-2005, 01:48 PM
^LoL...Maybe We Should Get BusterHymen In Here To Confirm What I Said...Isn't That Right, Multiplexed? Why Have You Been Messin Around All This Time, Posing As A Character Named "G-Money?" The Joke's Over...

Oh, And To *X L*, Our Privacy Has BEEN Gone...Even Way Before Eisenhower Created Social Security, So Why Are You Saying "Fuck America" Just Now?...


SHUT UP!!! i was making the thread title interesting...

::::dynamite voice::::GAWWSSHHH

G-money1831
05-26-2005, 01:53 PM
yea he fuckin it up, SADIS WHERE YA AT????

Da Mutt
05-26-2005, 01:58 PM
SHUT UP!!! i was making the thread title interesting...

::::dynamite voice::::GAWWSSHHH

Nacirema_NY has a point ,but so do you my well informed G.

go all the way back to when the first outlaw was made that was basically when anyone started the "fuck America" scheme.if they do what they aim to do their's going to be an insurrection bigger than any in the history of this world.

G-money1831
05-26-2005, 02:03 PM
tha probelm iz that they can fool ppl and go away wit it??!!!

The Spectrum
05-26-2005, 09:43 PM
u aint even canadian...ur just stuck...or had to move against ur will...


Its still ignorant whether Im canadian or not.

And I have been living here more then half my life, I think that qualifies me as a citizen and representer of this country.





Its whatever, I could care less because stereotypes will always exist, but I wouldnt expect them to come from a half-intellegent person such as yourself.

Dominate
05-26-2005, 11:12 PM
^not if you're required to carry them on you at all times.. (any mention of the implications for someone who did throw away the card, or refused to carry it?)

The FranchiZe
05-26-2005, 11:34 PM
I agree with Sadistyk... I doesn't seem too big a deal... It kinda sounds more or an annoyance than anything... Meh... From what the article says, I'm not too bothered.