he's got good lyrics, but in almost every song his lyrics overlap the rhythm and fall off beat. I don't care if he does it on purpose or not, it sounds gay. He's much better when he rides the beat correct. but still though, he just doens't have the mic presense as Bis or Nas, or even Kwali for that matter

thanks for your opinion...

no hate man but i must say its a pointless thing to say just to start a thread, you could have said this in 1 of the other 50000 immortal technique threads without starting a new 1, but with that said, i agree about how he falls off beat. but u didnt say anything interesting comparing IT to canibus or nas and yet that was the title of this thread

thanks for your opinion...

no hate man but i must say its a pointless thing to say just to start a thread, you could have said this in 1 of the other 50000 immortal technique threads without starting a new 1, but with that said, i agree about how he falls off beat. but u didnt say anything interesting comparing IT to canibus or nas and yet that was the title of this thread
no need to....name one time when nas was off beat...speaks for itself....same with Bis

true... u did mention kweli originally though and just listen to some of the new album beautiful struggle, the album is very good but listen to "Work It Out" he is off beat the entire time.

Bis and Nas record their stuff in million dollar studios






Vol 1 sounds like it was recorded on my computer
that might be a reason




but your right........Tech is off with his shit
thats just what ya get with true underground stuff

true... u did mention kweli originally though and just listen to some of the new album beautiful struggle, the album is very good but listen to "Work It Out" he is off beat the entire time.
but that played into kwali's theme and emotion of the entire song.....technique will sometimes try to FORCE too much into one line, when it would have been better to drop on the next beat rotation

i just feel if he kept it on beat he would attract alot more mainstream fans, cause the kid's got talent

fuck mainstream fans

I think Immortal Technique is the anti thesis to all that mainstream represents




he gets respect from the hip hop heads
thats all one should ever strive for

who cares if you got nuff respect but its from people who dont know who Brand Nubian was

fuck mainstream fans

I think Immortal Technique is the anti thesis to all that mainstream represents




he gets respect from the hip hop heads
thats all one should ever strive for

who cares if you got nuff respect but its from people who dont know who Brand Nubian was
dog, you say fuck mainstream fans as if they made the choice on mainstream over undergraound. Laot of people JUST Simply don't know the depth that hip-hop has. That's why i said it would increase his awareness no people that Don't KNOW who he is. hip hop or more than just underground and mainstream.....it's alot deeper than that

not everyone has clearly picked one side over the other...sopme just only hear one kind of music. That's why it's in the artist best interest to share their music with everyone

but staying more on beat wont attract more mainstream fans

what does that havto do with IT getting more fans

if he doesnt get fans the way he is now, he isnt changing his style for nobody elses approval

he can improve his mic presence and flow, but it wont attract "mainstream" fans.

Cannibus is broke to

why are you not banned yet

plus didnt you lose the pink-slip to Krypton?

Cannibus is broke to
lol that's kind of funny

but staying more on beat wont attract more mainstream fans

what does that havto do with IT getting more fans

if he doesnt get fans the way he is now, he isnt changing his style for nobody elses approval

he can improve his mic presence and flow, but it wont attract "mainstream" fans.
But not staying on beat with loose fans or turn away people who are possible fans...the point is that he can still stay true to his content but deliver in a way that a broader audiance will enjoy

whatever i see your point i just disagree. theres no way he can and will appeal to a greater audience just by staying more on beat. if your saying he should dumb down his lyrics and stick to regular 16's with a simple flow then yes that may attract more fans, but obviously technique will be selling out from what we all thought he believed in and he would NEVER do that.

o yea and stop double posting, you can address 2 different peoples quotes and topics in the same post

whatever i see your point i just disagree. theres no way he can and will appeal to a greater audience just by staying more on beat. if your saying he should dumb down his lyrics and stick to regular 16's with a simple flow then yes that may attract more fans, but obviously technique will be selling out from what we all thought he believed in and he would NEVER do that.

o yea and stop double posting, you can address 2 different peoples quotes and topics in the same post

not what i'm saying...and i know you disagree dog, no need to point it out. He doesn't have to dumb down his lyrics Mos def, Kwali and Nas attract mainstream attention. and when i say mainstream doesn't mean you have to amediatly think the stereotypical 50 cent artist, there is a grey area and he's not hitting it as well as he could be. , double posting not done on purpose, i remember certain things after i wrote the previous post..but why you so concerned anyway?

but why you so concerned anyway?
im just reminding u not to do it before a mod or someone else does and will be pissed at u for it

anyway this thread is boring but i still dont see how immortal technique is the broke man's canibus or nas. if u mean broke man as in a literal sense, and he just doesnt make the money they do but yet has a similar style, then true. but usually when people say "_____ is a poor mans _____" its metaphorical and has nothing to do with money.

im just reminding u not to do it before a mod or someone else does and will be pissed at u for it

anyway this thread is boring but i still dont see how immortal technique is the broke man's canibus or nas. if u mean broke man as in a literal sense, and he just doesnt make the money they do but yet has a similar style, then true. but usually when people say "_____ is a poor mans _____" its metaphorical and has nothing to do with money.
exactly right.......nothing to do with money...his overall music is just not up to par with them

Personally I am a Immortal Tech fan....... I think his rhymes are pretty hardcore in nature and meaning...... As far as off beat..> I did not catch that.. So I will pop the CD back in and check on it.....

As far as Canibus go's........Can is sick with the flow and vocab meta's... All that shit... But Canibus is not as marketable as Immortal Tech....... In my opinion...

NAS... Is just a great rhymer... Nothing much else to add to that... I am not the biggest NAS fan... Cuase to me some of his work does not catch my ear...... But I am also WEST Coast........ But don't get me wrong... I started listening to the EAST first... Than picked up on the West shit later.....

AND I See that green....(Celtics)...

Well Dawg... Hate to tell ya... It's all about the Purple.....(Lakers)...

PEACE...

lakers are in a tuff situation man.......well actually so is all sports in La, damn.
i agree with the marketing part of your post.......but i'm talking pure rymes to a beat

most of your opinions on tech are wrong.....

tech is super good and the 3rd rakim!!2nd was nas!! ..nuff said..

most of your opinions on tech are wrong.....
i didn't know your opinion was fact........what, are you his stan? go back and listen to some of his songs, tell me he doesn't fall off beat...nuff said

i will admit, that sumtimes his flow needs work an shit i aint doubtin that, but other than that techs comes correct.....

i will admit, that sumtimes his flow needs work an shit i aint doubtin that, but other than that techs comes correct.....
and if you go back to earlier posts you see that i gave him his props....never said he was wack, just said he needed to polish his rhyme structure better and he would attract more fans

oh sry my bad.........

no IT is on the same level as canibus, mabye not nas

no IT is on the same level as canibus, mabye not nas
in a head toi head battle cannibus would kill him

whoever says that Immortal Tech is on the same level as Canibus is a stupid fucking idiot



and if you tell me its just your opinion your even a bigger idiot




Immortal Tech is still a fucking rookie that needs to pay his dues
he has 2 albums out, one which was recorded on someone's fucking home computer
he's 10 galaxies behind Canibus

Spec...Post Up A Couple SOLO'S from Canibus...I've heard Second Round KO and Most Of His Collab's...Beasts From The East Was NICE...

ya mean ya want me to upload some Canibus tracks were he spits himself ?


confirm that and I'll put up a track or five



also check out his effort on


Jedi Mind Tricks ft. Canibus - Tibetan Black Magic



I think the 2 verses he spits are like one of the greatest of all time
in terms of how he spits em out the the technical difficulty of them
just dropped my jaw

Yeah Tracks With Jsut Canibus No One Else..All I've Heard Is Collab's and 2nd Round KO...I want To See If I Can Comapre Him To Rakim Any....

Yeah Tracks With Jsut Canibus No One Else..All I've Heard Is Collab's and 2nd Round KO...I want To See If I Can Comapre Him To Rakim Any....
you know how many freestyles that dude got, c'mon man you can't be serious?

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/rippersrealm_music.htm

Some real real real hot shit on there but some bullshit as well. And whoever made this thread, I agree that Immortal Tech has a long way to go before he can be compared to Canibus or Nas... When he's on a label n he's puttin out mad shit like Bis we'll be able to judge better, but a tthe moment, no.