Makaveli, the original makaveli, spelt Machiavelli, was a villain who set up his own death... faked it.

surely pac was onto sumthin wen he renamed to Makaveli?

Who knows? Who cares? :p

lisa if u dont know why post here? if u dont care? then ur posts are not welcome here thanks, yeah we know he changed his name for that yes if rearange da lettering it may say i am alive so yeah cool anit it :)

M A K A V E L I

I AM ALIVE....

hummm Nicolo Machiaveli was a Italian Strategist who wrote The art of war as well as many other pieces.he stated that one to fake death to fool the other opponent

Originally posted by cr@zyb
lisa if u dont know why post here? if u dont care? then ur posts are not welcome here thanks, yeah we know he changed his name for that yes if rearange da lettering it may say i am alive so yeah cool anit it

Yes, how rich comin' from the biggest freeposter this board has ever seen :rolleyes:

^^lol.....i really dont know..i know Tupac was fan but wether he intended to fake his death and everything, i dont know..

Originally posted by Lisa16
Yes, how rich comin' from the biggest freeposter this board has ever seen :rolleyes:

no i just post regular not fucking freeposter dont get twisted lisa u know who da biggiest freeposter so dont even go there lisa

Niccoló Machiavelli (1469-1527)
ALSO: Niccoló Macchiavelli

"Men are always wicked at bottom unless they are made good by some compulsion."


Italian political thinker and historical figure in the turning point from Middle Ages to Modern World. Machiavelli stated in The Price, his famous contribution to modern political though, the then revolutionary and prophetic idea, that theological and moral imperatives have no place in the political arena.

Machiavelli was born in Florence, Italy. Little is known of his early life, but he might have been involved in overthrowing the Savonarolist government in 1498. He was appointed head of the new government's Second Chancery, and secretary of an agency concerned with warfare and diplomacy (1498-1512). During there years he travelled on several missions in Europe for the Republic of Florence visiting Cesare Borgia (1502), Rome (1503, 1506), France (1504) and Germany (1507-08). Among his achievement was helping to set up a standing army, which reconquered Pisa in 1509.

As a thinker Machiavelli belonged to an entire school of Florentine intellectuals concerned with an examination of political and historical problems. His important writing, however, were composed after 1512 when he was accused of of conspiracy in 1513. Medici family had returned to power and had ended a year before the Florentine Republic. Lorenzo de' Medici fired Machiavelli, the Secretary to the Second Chancery of the Signoria. He was suspected of plotting against the Medici, jailed and exiled to Sant'Andrea in Percussina. Macciavelli found himself out of job after 14 years of patriotic service, and spent on a small estate most of his remaining years produced his major writings.

In 1519 Machiavelli partly reconciled with the Medici and he was given various duties, including writing a history of Florence. When the Medici was deposed in 1527 Machiavelli hoped for a new government post. However, now he was distrusted by the republican government for previous association with the Medici.

Machiavelli died in Florence on June 21, 1527. His political writings became more widely known in the second half of the 16th century. When Considered dangerous, they were placed in 1564 on the Church Index of officially banned books.

Machiavelli's best known works are DISCORSI SOPRA LA PRIMA DECA DI TITO LIVIO (1531) and IL PRINCIPE (1532), whose the main theme is that all means may be used in order to maintain authority, and that the worst acts of the ruler are justified by the treachery of the government. Many of Machiavelli's toughts, as "it is much more secure to be feared, than to be loved" have lived centuries as slogans. Il Principe was condemned by the pope, but its viewpoints gave rise to the well-known adjective machiavellian, synonym for political maneuvers marked by cunning, duplicity, or bad faith. Machiavelli draws upon examples from both ancient and more recent history and also uses his own experiences. What distinguishes Machiavelli's manual from other such works, is the originality and practicality of his thinking. Neither the attempts to interpret Machiavelli's ideas as first steps to democratic thoughs or examples of evil reflect a balanced view of his writing.

The interest in Machiavelli has continued, although contemporary scholarship may have its reservations about transforming his writings in a prophecy or manual of modern politics.

For further reading: Machiavelli by J.H. Whitfield (1947); Machiavelli and the Renaissance by Federico Chabod (1958); Machiavelli: A Dissection by Sidney Anglo (1970); Machiavelli and the Nature of Political Thought by Martin Fleischer (1972); Machiavelli by Quentin Skinner (1981); Niccolo Machiavelli, compiled by Silvia Fiore (1990); The Discourses of Niccolo Machiavelli (1991); Niccolo Machiavelli's the Price, ed. by Martin Coyle (1995); Machiavelli's Three Romes by Vickie B. Sullivan (1996); Machiavelli's Virtue by Harvey C. Mansfield (1996); Machiavelli, Leonardo, and the Science of Power by Roger D. Masters (1996); Machiavelli, ed. by John Dunn and Ian Harris (1997); Machiavelli and Us by Luis Althusser et al (1999)

I'm sorta iffy on the whole idea...there was a lot of weird shit along with his death. I mean he could've faked it...no autopsy and stuff is weird. Even if he happened to come back (aka he faked the death) he'd be thrown in jail, being that it's illegal.

no he wouldnt..... There's a law that says that if a person is consider as death or missing 4 a period of 7 years, all tha charges he's facing will b droped....

Isnt that right???

Someone...... Back me up.....

Originally posted by Tupac
no he wouldnt..... There's a law that says that if a person is consider as death or missing 4 a period of 7 years, all tha charges he's facing will b droped....

Isnt that right???

Someone...... Back me up.....

That's a false rumor that was spread. You're not wiped from any such records. Ex. The IRS still keeps you in there. Say 2 Pac made profit off any albums he had sold during this "death" period, he did not file for taxes during that time..which is a crime. IRS will come after you 50 years down the road if they have to. They like that kind of stuff, they're sort of the like the governments mafia.

Also, if, for example, how 2 Pac says in some of his songs how he says he's in another country (One said Jamaica)..that would be illegal. He would have to falsify his name to get a fake passport to travel. In doing so, that is a crime.

yea its right, there was a movie about it, Double Jeopardy. It also goes with bein accused of commitin crimes and shit.

Originally posted by MightyMouse
yea its right, there was a movie about it, Double Jeopardy. It also goes with bein accused of commitin crimes and shit.

Eh, that's only saying you can't be tried for the same crime twice. Hence, the double jeapordy factor....Tupac never faked his death before.

ahh, i thought about it after i posted. I'm pretty sure hes dead anyway, bu what if...?

nice,

check this...

if u got the Makaveli album look inside the cover...

the producer is simply Simon..

Simon was one of the 1st disciples to witness Jesus' resurrection..

Suge Knight resemble Simon??

^^i think ur right there...not 100% sure tho...........

Originally posted by Jhey {SP}
nice,

check this...

if u got the Makaveli album look inside the cover...

the producer is simply Simon..

Simon was one of the 1st disciples to witness Jesus' resurrection..

Suge Knight resemble Simon??

Yeah that's one of the many things said about his death being fake and all kinds of weird shit happening.

well m.o.p..... suge knight was with him when he died u cannot falut that can u? he was da last person to see him alive joking and chillin in da car so yeah

^^No doubt.

Just weird how a dude like twice the size of 2 Pac, sitting right next to him doesn't catch one bullet.

^^ thats right, how tha fuck did pac get all shot up but fat ass suge didnt?

Originally posted by Elldawg_24
^^ thats right, how tha fuck did pac get all shot up but fat ass suge didnt?

Suge's got magic up his sleeve. Hah

they say suge had affiliations wit da niggaz that shot Pac.... Da crip$.....

Originally posted by Elldawg_24
^^ thats right, how tha fuck did pac get all shot up but fat ass suge didnt?

maybe this might explain a possiablity where da gun was fired u know da angles and all stuff like that, u know but yeah suge should have got killed that night why would leave eye witness hmmmmmmmmmm sounds too fishy to me

ye i totally agree

we have had this discussion on sp forums as well

Suge Knight was hit allegedly.... in the back of the neck, a bullet that scraped the back of it and caused a lot of bleeding...

according to Suge Knight Tupac was laughing when he was shot, saying that Suge Knight was the one who needed medical attention and not him...

one more thing, why was Suge Knight not killed if, according to him, he covered Tupac and held him close to him to stop him being shot

i dont think Suge is being truthful or maybe blanks were fired :)

tupac i am stumped on how he would get around coming back, cause if thats true and theres no way around it poo on sept 14 :(

YEAH I USED TO THINK TUPAC WAS DEAD THEN I WENT TO THIS SITE http://www.webspawner.com/users/1pacfan/

Originally posted by cr@zyb
maybe this might explain a possiablity where da gun was fired u know da angles and all stuff like that, u know but yeah suge should have got killed that night why would leave eye witness hmmmmmmmmmm sounds too fishy to me

YOU SOUND LIKE AN EPISODE SCOOBY DOO :p

aight does any1 know how many shots were fired at the car wen it was attacked?

Suge Knight was neva helpin the police he was always unhelpful and awkward

which cud be because he was behind it or he knows Pac is alive