Flow or the actual story??

-convo with myself and Contagious-

NeWoDcBoyz8: i merked u in the multi vote 7-3
xTheyNeverKnowx: you did but a topical isnt about multis
NeWoDcBoyz8: Flow is huge in it, multis aid the flow
xTheyNeverKnowx: its all about the story
NeWoDcBoyz8: flow is probably just as important as the actual storyline
xTheyNeverKnowx: flow is important, yes, but a topical is a story
NeWoDcBoyz8: I'd bet you if you wrote the most amazing story ever written in a topical, and the other person outrhymes you 9/10 vets vote for the rhymer
NeWoDcBoyz8: then why waste time writing period?
xTheyNeverKnowx: if your story is good then thats what matters, the flow is important too but its about the story in topical, if you wanna battle someone on a lyrical level thats another type of battle
xTheyNeverKnowx: look at big bents verse in the topical
xTheyNeverKnowx: he will eat his opponent because his story is SICK
xTheyNeverKnowx: but his flow is ehh
NeWoDcBoyz8: i think his flow is good also
NeWoDcBoyz8: i
NeWoDcBoyz8: i'd bet my rep though i could battle him same topic, he could post that, i'd outflow him and win the battle
NeWoDcBoyz8: its the truth, flow is more important to these "hip-hop heads" thats why i spent more time rhyming than writing
xTheyNeverKnowx: okay but if your flow is good and your story sucks then you loose
NeWoDcBoyz8: not true
NeWoDcBoyz8: My point is... Topical piece or not. This is a hip-hop/rap site
NeWoDcBoyz8: topical battles are hiphop/rap battles still not poetry lessons
NeWoDcBoyz8: people will vote for the more lyrical sounding, b/c it impresses them over a story that could win a pulitzer prize
xTheyNeverKnowx: a topical is a topical REGARDLESS, you got a topic and you write to it
NeWoDcBoyz8: but its a rap battle
NeWoDcBoyz8: the same as a cypher
NeWoDcBoyz8: you cypher all different topics, categories its still rap though
NeWoDcBoyz8: its not an essay
xTheyNeverKnowx: this is not a rap battle
NeWoDcBoyz8: yes it is
xTheyNeverKnowx: no its not, some of these people dont even rap, they're writers and poets
xTheyNeverKnowx: RW has a variety

NeWoDcBoyz8: so cyphers aint rapping either?
xTheyNeverKnowx: yes they are
xTheyNeverKnowx: but this is a topical
xTheyNeverKnowx: TOPICal
NeWoDcBoyz8: this is pretty much the exact same thing
NeWoDcBoyz8: cypher is about a topic/category
NeWoDcBoyz8: and you flow and rhyme off it


Am I Lying?

Topical is 9 times out of 10 voted on about the story....
To me:
Story/Imagery/Keeping on topic
Vocab
Flow/Multi's

Are you serious? Then tell me why 9/10 actual topic battles come down to who's flowed better, who's sounds better out loud etc. Go look at the topic tourny history.

Otherwise people wouldn't even bother rhyming. 90% of famous poets don't rhyme anyways.

NeWoDcBoyz8: so cyphers aint rapping either?
xTheyNeverKnowx: yes they are
xTheyNeverKnowx: but this is a topical
xTheyNeverKnowx: TOPICal
NeWoDcBoyz8: this is pretty much the exact same thing
NeWoDcBoyz8: cypher is about a topic/category
NeWoDcBoyz8: and you flow and rhyme off it


Am I Lying?

then I said it could also be poetic
mine was poetic more then anything

if your lines werent so bigass and you were more on topic you woulda won, your story outweighed contagious's by alot, but i set a topic and he staed to it more

delete me. post

People will say the story is more important, but when it comes down to it, this is a rap site... Rapping is what your SUPPOSED to be doing. Flow is just as important

Would you rather read a rap song with a good topic
or an ESSAY with a Great topic.

Thats really what this comes down to.

You can also be poetic, POETIC, I was more poetic than anything else. And as you stated, not all poems always rhyme. Its also different styles of writing that come into factor..

Yeah of course You don't wanna read shit rhymes and a good story...
But if someone comes with multi every line and a whack story, and someone else comes with pretty good rhymes and an awesome story, then people gonna vote for the story, because it's more enjoyable..

im aware of that...

My whole point is, the topic of anything RAP/Hip Hop related is just as important as the flow. If one is more balanced most likely it will win. period.

A topic is based on topic..the flow of story is what it is judged on..

Not the flow of the words..

The content must flow and fit together.


Dont question me :)..I am a God in topical battles :)

and someone else comes with pretty good rhymes and an awesome story, then people gonna vote for the story, because it's more enjoyable..

thank you

And you didn't answer the argument at all...

When it comes down to it, would you rather read a story with good flow and good topic, or great story and simple rhymes?

My rhymes were not simple, I had less multis then you

listen, dani had the better story, which if it was a free topic she woulda won with. BUT there was a topci which she didnt pay that much attention to...there for i voted cont

listen, dani had the better story, which if it was a free topic she woulda won with. BUT there was a topci which she didnt pay that much attention to...there for i voted cont

I stayed on topic. You asked that we write about a drug, I wrote about drugs- pills. You asked on the reaction- I've provided you with it. I think you may need to re-read my verse, darlin.

"darling" your first 3 verse were nice and woulda won it for you if you had left it at that @ not only would you have won but line lengths woulda been nicer, after that you went off topic sorry but thats how i feel.

These topicals as i see ain't really meant to have a great flow, but the actually story is what matters, that's why everyone has these long ass lines, but the multies probably count cuz they go in conjunction with the story told and no matter how much good your flow is, the story and depth prevails, trust me on this one.

Story
Description
Vocabulary + Flow
Multis + Wordplay

If the flow is fucked though it makes the story line not as great.

If the flow is really good it amplifies the story.

^^^^But if the story is fucked up, there is no scope for anything to be accomplished, especially since it's a topical, and it's not just some random freestyle displaying your rhyming skills

"darling" your first 3 verse were nice and woulda won it for you if you had left it at that @ not only would you have won but line lengths woulda been nicer, after that you went off topic sorry but thats how i feel.

Thats fine, I respect your opinion either way. But I made my topical into a story, like its supposed to be made. I didnt go off topic, I followed it and gave it a twist for originality, DARLING

Lol @ the 'DARLING' part

lol at nox constantly being on D's Dick today.

^^^Holla Atcha BGy

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wow@you

lol it's boy. but that does look like a G

But it's w/e I dont care, vote up people. Just b/c I made that argument doesn't mean my story sucks, it's still good

this is retarded, if ur a good writer everything will compliment each other so neither should be more important than the other b.c it should be equally great... otherwise this is dumb b.c its obvious which is better, but it all just depends on shit

my whole argument the whole time is it's JUST AS IMPORTANT. Gen lol.