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Godson101
07-08-2003, 03:34 PM
This any new newes i just though i would but the disses the both did to each other


These are all the disses between Em and Bis.
Eminem - "Role Model"
Eminem - "Get you Mad"
Canibus - "Phuk U"
Eminem - "Marshall Mathers"
Canibus - "U Didnt Care"
Eminem - "Square Dance,"
Eminem - "When The Music Stops"
Eminem - "Say What You Say"
Eminem - "Kay Slay Freestyle"
Eminem -"Say My Name"
Canibus - "Poet Laurete"
Canibus - "Cenior Studies, 02"
Canibus - "Dr. C PhD"
Canibus - "Curriculum 101"
Canibus - "How Many Emcees"
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Eminem
SONG: Role Model
ALBUM: Slim Shady LP
I'm cancerous, so when I diss you wouldn't wanna answer this
If you responded back with a battle rap you wrote for Canibus
I strangled you to death then I'll choke you again
And break your fuckin legs till your bones poke through your skin
You beef wit me, I'ma even the score equally
Take you on Jerry Springer, and beat yer ass legally

MEANING BEHIND DISS: He saying you wouldnt battle me with a rap you ghostwrote for Canibus . and hes saying to Bis that if you want to beef with me and embarrass me and make me look like an asshole just cause you think I ghost wrote LL's diss, i'll even the score and embarrass you and make you look like an ass by beating you up on the Jerry Springer Show..

Eminem
SONG: Get You Mad
ALBUM: (not sure)

My attitude is worse than NWA's was
I'll battle you over stupid shit and diss people who dont have shit to do with it, Like Cool J Does (MY TATTOO!)"
.....
Lesson Three: Get a job at a label; switch demos with Canibus
and put yours on the owner's table (here listen!)

MEANING BEHIND DISSES: He disses LL and Bis in the first line .. saying there so called big beef was just over some dumbass tattoo ... and in the second one, hes saying that if you switch your demo with Canibus, you'll suprise the label heads because Canibus' shit isnt impressive..

Canibus
SONG: Phuk U
ALBUM: 2000 B.C.
... Nigga, Fuck whos on next
....
Ya superstar status don't mean shit to me
Lyrically sucker emcees still get frequency
Try to diss me now? How you sound?
Yo, whoever signed you must be runnin the circus cuz you a clown
You a rapper wit a drug habit, hidin the truth
Camoflaugin ya needle tracks wit some colorful tattoos
You was never equipped for this, never equipped to spit wit Bis
I'm swift as shit, Let me point out the main differences
......
Take A look inside yourself and tell me what you see
If you see a hungry nigga then you lookin at me

MEANING BEHIND DISS: Originally, Phuk U was supposed to be an Em and Bis collab.. but Em wasnt feeling Bis' verses so he declined .. so Bis did the track himself ... and called him a rapper with a drug habit...

Eminem
SONG: Marshall Mathers
ALBUM: Marshall Mathers LP
The underground just spunned around and did a 360
Now these kids diss me and act like some big sissies
"Oh, he just did some shit with Missy,
so now he thinks he's too big to do some shit with MC Get Bissy"

MEANING BEHIND DISS: A rebuttal to Phuk U .. hes calling Bis a sissy, saying he dissed him just because he wouldnt do a track for him ..

Canibus
SONG: U Didnt Care
ALBUM: C True Hollywood Stories
He (Bis) introduces me to people as his lyrical equal
Let me write a rhyme on his album and even produce a beat too
He ain't see-through, I can't see him frontin
He's not the type to call you, just because he needs somethin
That's what I like about him, I wouldn't want to rock a mic without him
He's got kahunas and he's not a coward
Matta fact, I think he met you
It was the day you came to his video shoot with DJ, Jimmy's nephew
'Clef stepped to him and told him he should step to you
That you was ghost writin for L, but that wasn't true
You was lookin at him the same way I'm lookin at you
Why can't we be friends Em', I don't want nothin from you
You see there's a little bit of Stan in all of us
Tell me where you think all of these record sales sparred from
Talkin 'bout Britney and Christina Aguilera
Nsync too, have you ever looked in a mirror?
Your hair ain't really blonde, and ya eyes ain't blue
So never diss me, cuz when you diss me your dissin you

MEANING BEHIND DISS: Hes callin Em a Stan, saying he is the exact kind of person he hates: Fake pop icons.

Eminem
SONG: Square Dance
ALBUM: The Eminem Show
All these people I had to leave in limbo
I'm back now, I've come to release this info
I'll be brief and let me just keep shit simple
Canibitch don't want no beef with Slim
Nooooooo! Not even on my radar
So won't you please jump off my dick, lay off and stay off
.....
Yeah you laugh till your motherfuckin ass gets drafted
....
On your knees, got you under siege
Somebody you would give a lung to be
Hun-ga-ry, like a fuckin younger me
Fuck the fee, I can get you jumped for free
Yeah buddy, laugh it's funny, I have the money
to have you killed by somebody who has nothing

MEANING BEHIND DISS: Says that Bis doesnt wanna beef with him because he aint on his radar .. the drafted line is a rebuttal to the track on CTHS called Draft me, in which bis is saying he wanted to be drafted to defend his country .. and the last lines are rebuttals to lines in Bis' songs "Phuk U" from 2000 BC and the Jay Z Diss from CTHS "I Got a Story to Tell" (I had nothin before and I have nothin now/ Fuckin with a Nigga with nothin only brings you down)

Eminem
SONG: When The Music Stops
ALBUM: The Eminem Show
.....
If there ain't shit for me to feed off, I'm see-saw battlin (1)
But there's way too much at stake For me to be fake /
There's too much on my plate, I done came way /
Too far in this game to turn and walk away /
And not say what I got to say (2)
What the fuck you take me for, a joke? You smoking crack? (3)
.........
I'll get up 'fore I get down, Run myself in the ground /
'Fore I put some wack shit out (4) ...
.......
Ain't gon' do nothin but piss me off
Lid to the can of whip-ass, Just twist me off (5)
See me leap out, Pull a piece out
Fuck shooting, I'm just trying to knock his teeth out (6)
Fuck with me now bitch, let's see you freestyle (7)
Talk is cheap /
Motherfucker if you really feeling froggish leap (8)
Yo Slim, you gonna let him get away with that?
He tried to play you, you can't let him skate with that, (9)
Man I hate this crap
This ain't rap, This is crazy the way we act (10)
....

MEANING BEHIND DISS: This is a pretty awesome subliminal diss to Bis. Here, hes constantly refering to his well known DJ Clue freestyle ("I speak at frequencies dogs would have trouble hearing/ Canibus is the lyrical Version of German engineering/ etc.") if you have not heard it, read the lyrics here: .. as for the disses (1) Hes Calling out his battle with Canibus. If Eminem isn't working with Canibus, then they are battling. (2) In U Didnt Care, Bis called Em a fake stan. Eminem hes saying he has struggled too much to get to the top of the rap game just to act fake or, in this case, let Canibus get away with dissing him. (3) Hes saying CTHS was a joke. He thinks Bis must be smoking crack for taking Em as a Joke (4) Eminem's saying he will kill himself before he ever puts out a wack album like CTHS. (5) Another incarnation of Eminem's Canibitch, Canishit disses, etc. (6) Eminem is challenging Canibus to a fistfight. He did the same thing with Everlast and Moby. (7) First reference to the DJ Clue Freestyle. Hes implying that Bis prewrites his freestyles (which is kinda hypocritical by Em cause he has prewritten a few freestyles...) Hes also asking how Canibus could battle him if Eminem kicked his ass. (8) Again with the physical challenges. Here, Eminem makes a CLEAR reference to Canibus's track. This cements the verse as a satire of Canibus's DJ Clue Freestyle. (9) Eminem is saying CTHS was an attempt to diss him and that he won't let Canibus get away with it. He's making it clear there will be more Canibus disses to come. (10) Here hes saying CTHS shouldn't even be considered rap.

Godson101
07-08-2003, 03:35 PM
Eminem
SONG: Say What You Say
Album: The Eminem Show
Second verse, it gets worse, it gets no better than this
Amateurs drink veteran piss
from a Dixie Cup, if you ever mix me up
or CONFUSE ME with a Canibus or Dre with a DUPRI!
We'll rub it in, every club you're in will have you
blackballed and make sure you never rap a-fuckin-gain

MEANING BEHIND DISS: A lot of people have compared Em to Bis and here, Em says if you compare him to Bis (Or dre to JD) he'll have you blackballed...

Godson101
07-08-2003, 03:36 PM
Eminem
SONG: Kay Slay Freestyle
ALBUM: Say What You Say Mixtape
I live for the love of rap, you crazy?
I've made beats for Jay Z for free, Page me
if you need a beat, you canibus, then its Dre's fee
for Kay Slay, the fee's waved

MEANING BEHIND DISS: Hes saying that Bis bites Dre's beats .. or he steals his beats .. or something like that.

Eminem
SONG: Say My Name
ALBUM: Man vs. Machine (Xzibit's LP)
I'd have my motherfuckin ass kicked by Moby
if I let some bitch in the Can like 'Bis cop over me
to do war, and try to bring my crew back down
I'll never stoop, to that level, to do that now

MEANING BEHIND DISS: Not many people are sure of this and I'm not either .. but we can tell its a diss .. "let some Bitch in the CAN like BIS" is pretty much a diss...

Canibus
SONG: Poet Laureate
ALBUM: Mic Club - The Curriculum
Niggas probably like, what da fuck he dissin him for?
Yeah he dissed me first but you was never informed
....
You aint better than me, you just got an obsession wit me

MEANING BEHIND DISS: People went Crazy when they first heard CTHS' U Didnt Care, which many believe is where the beef started (which I proved that wrong) .. and people asked "why you dissin Em?" hes basically saying Em dissed him first subliminally (which I stated earlier, was in Role Model and Get you Mad) ... the obession line refers to Em's multiple recent disses in 5 different songs which makes it seems he is obsessed with bis.

Canibus
SONG: Cenior Studies 02
ALBUM: Mic Club - The Curriculum
My adrenaline rushes when the enemy rush me,
Trynna' buss me cause I swore I'd defend my country

MEANING BEHIND DISS: Rebuttal to the "laugh till your ass gets Drafted" line from Square Dance


Canibus
SONG: Dr. C. Phd
ALBUM: Mic Club - The Curriculum
Rapid fire you better run for the pacifier
tie you up and drown you in a saliva quagmire,
Till your oxygen expires and ya' lungs dry up,
cause you said Bis ain't dope - you a damn liar,
.......
let's roll the dices, 'll break you like young Tyson
give me the mic man, I don't need no hype man
put a thousand on me, put one on him
i tear off his limbs, throw him in, and tell him to swim
yo I soak that shit and coat that shit in soy sauce
tell the FCC boss, turn that noise off
call Detroit's Mafia Boss
tell him yo, I got a job for you, I want you to bust his balls
...
yo, you wonder where I am right now
I'm probably somewhere on the microphone fucking it up
....
**what the fuck you on the website for you creep?
punching the keys, remember that sound
that's exactly what it sounds like when i'm punching your teeth **
kick a rap, bitch, if you've got the gumption to speak
stand next to me, i might put a lump in your meat
diss you and your man, double the beef
to tell you the truth, I thought your rebuttal was weak
round the outside, blah, blah, etcetra, etcetra
the body of my literature is bigger than South America
nigga look, this is all I gots to say
suck my P-H-D-I-C-K

MEANING BEHIND DISS: NOTE every thing between ** .. ** is a diss to Eminem's hype man and fellow D12 Member, Proof .. Proof posts on the D12World.com Message board as BIG PROOF ... nuff said .... Well the other disses are meaning ALOT. The first thing about him saying bis aint dope it was said on the radio that Eminem was asked "If you could take back one thing youve said, what would it be?" and he said "That Canibus is dope because he isnt" .. hes dissing Em and proof when he says he doesnt need a hype man because Proof is Em's hype man .. always on stage when the Rest of d12 isnt ... the lines yo I soak that shit and coat that shit in soy sauce/ tell the FCC boss, turn that noise off" deal with something Em said on Without Me .. he said "The FCC wont let me be" which means the FCC is always listening to em so hes telling them to turn it off .. the lines "call Detroit's Mafia Boss/ tell him yo, I got a job for you, I want you to bust his balls" just refers to him because Em lives in Detroit and Bis would call the mafia boss to bust his balls ... in an interview Em said Bis' career was dead and he wondered where he was which explains the "wonder where I am" line is a diss to em ... the rebuttal line refers to Em saying "Two Trailer Park girls go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside" as Bis said "Canibus is coming for y'all round the outside, round the outside, round the outside" on Box Cutta Blade Runna from CTHS.

Godson101
07-08-2003, 03:36 PM
Canibus
SONG: Curriculum 101
ALBUM: Mic Club - The Curriculum
Count how many mics I smoked, minus the G.O.A.T.
Bus is dope, my battlin' average higher than most,
When I'm on the mic, I release fire from throat,
If you disagree please do it quietly folks,
Anybody better than Bis must be a hoax,
Black man? NOPE, What about the Great White Hope?
What? Man you must be sniffin' great white coke,
Don't you know that's like Gary Coleman fightin' the Hulk?
And still not even quite that close,
a great white bitin' ya' rubber dingy boat 50 miles out from the coast,
What the phuk is the Mathers wit' you?
I'll beat you black and blue, then I'll probably get a tat of you too,
Better yet I'll put a tattoo of me on you,
a 10 by 10 "C" logo neon blue,
The most theatrical MC battle of all time,
I rip jackers like you - you know the call sign,
The killer cobra that'll hover over Jehova,
in a motorized autogiro with sycamore rotors,
Hydrogen peroxide gaseous vapors,
Technically these words shouldn't even rhyme off paper,
In theory for every soul that can hear me I'ma blaze'em,
in practical practice my style’s even greater,
Can't you see what I'm spittin'? Can't you hear the difference?
Compared to me you're energetically inefficient,
You need 10 times the enzymes to process one of my rhymes,
you gotta' rewind every one of my lines,
Do you know how to paraphrase?
Can you even understand what the narrator is trynna' say?

MEANING BEHIND DISS: This is pretty much explanitory .. hes saying that Em is not better than him .. please dont make me explain the Mathers line...

Canibus
SONG: How Many Emcees
ALBUM: The Brainstream EP

....
I know people who have written newspapers on me,
some are greatful to me, others be hatin on me
You wanna bet I aint the illest? What you tradin' wit G?
.....
I think its just time to be grateful
For every mc that came through and spit tapes full of data for you
Every album before this, I made it for you
Nowadays the truth is I got nothing to prove
But I heard him call my name a couple of times
In a couple of his rhymes and I thought about it a couple times
Is he looking for a respones or is he just being a jerk?
Or am I just to involved in my work?
I thought to myself, Why he wrote my name in his verse?
When he said I wasn’t ill, he just made things worse.
That’s when I recognized what Stan was worth
The only man on earth that could reverse the Cool J curse
I served him, like a nigga without purpose
Constantly taking rip the jacker back and forth to my therapist
I wasn’t prepared for this
People wanting to embarrass bis for reasons that aren’t quite apparent to me yet
What? I cant get signed, cause I got mad with a vet.
How could a couple of verses have so much anger in em
Don’t you know the difference between rip the jacker and bis?
Go use the Pythagoras theory and go do the math on this
Add up every multi-syllable paragraph
that ive been able to average since January 96
And tell me when u find it you dick ridin bitch
Im so sick of you always being skeptical always running behind my shit
tell me the truth, you really think its time that I quit?
You think maybe I could wholesale these rhymes that I spit?
I guess the nicest emcees got tired of Bis,
and lied to theyselves like they never relied on Bis
The real rock of the game, people have climbed on Bis,
rhyme mo' sick then anybody out your clique
Wit thousands of niggas devout for that shit
I got a couple of bitches too, I make em bow to the dick
The album is sick, some Hollywood biography shit,
the difference between ships in bottles, and bottles in ships
Fuckin wit Rip they find your fossils at the bottoms of cliffs
Stick 6 mics up your ass even though I doubt it will fit
....
'I'll battle you on the net, I'll battle you in the flesh
y'all niggas know the rest, dont fuck with bis"

MEANING BEHIND DISS: In my opinion, this is the best diss Bis has done to Em yet. I recently looked into it, and most of it is a rebuttal to When The Music Stops. The newspapers line is referring to the rappers that mention bis in they songs and hes saying Em is one of the people that are hating on them. Then hes sayin that he cant believe Em is sayin he aint the illest. the 'grateful' lines are referring to Bis calling Em a stan and saying he should be grateful to the emcees that made music for Stan's like him. Then he talks about the original disses by Em in Role Model and Get You Mad and hes wondering why Em dissed him. The "said I wasnt Ill" line is referring to what Em said on that radio interview about bis not being ill (look back in the Dr. C Phd description) .. then he explains why he used Em's Stan character to diss him. He says that he doesnt know why Em is dissing him, but suspects that its to get credability back in the underground. The lines after that with "time that I quit" are again referring to the interview. "the rock of the game" is referring to himself as the best and the part about climbing referrs to him being stepped on by numerous emcees. He then says hes sicker than D12 (the sicker than your clique line) .. the Hollywood line is a rebuttal to When The Music Stops, saying NO CTHS was not a joke, but more of a view of my career through a Hollywood Biography. The last two lines mentioned are rebuttals to WTMS as well; saying that you shouldnt make a satire of my verse there cause mine is better, they'll remember that one line (battle you on the net, on the flesh) and know its better than your shit so Dont Fuck With Bis



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ThizZuG
07-09-2003, 11:43 AM
who the fuck is Bis... benzino?

Godson101
07-09-2003, 06:37 PM
Bis short for canibus

Maddhatter
07-15-2003, 11:06 PM
Hey ThizZuG
stop listenin to rap music, you know nothing, thanks

.Inphinite.
07-16-2003, 09:39 PM
^^lol.....


man.. u had free time typing out all that shit or copying and pasting....

Godson101
07-17-2003, 10:47 PM
haha Yea i was really really booored haha

ShellzDonTFilMe
07-22-2003, 06:35 AM
personally i think cannibus took this...em had some nice shit but it wasnt covering as much ground as cormega's was

Hensch
07-22-2003, 07:03 AM
i sooo agree

GangstaChang
07-30-2003, 08:31 PM
totally...bis definitley is a helluva lot sweeter than em when it comes to dissing, etc. I loved Curriculum 101...what a great song

blakwid0w
07-31-2003, 06:57 PM
i dont agree wit that^
em was lil mo personal,bis talked a lot bout his fake hype wen em was callin him out (diss or not doesnt matta) to fist fite and can was stayin on he fake hype and tryin to flip em's shit so i thank em took this,who knos though,i not sure if its ova wit

Godson101
08-02-2003, 01:51 AM
^^ I disagree Canibus got eminem its been too long I kno for sure that dr c phd had to hit eminemn's "radar" eminem is scared as hell

blakwid0w
08-02-2003, 01:55 AM
o well,i havent herd a diss n a while from them so i dont kno(gotta find out were da disses be laid)

Maddhatter
08-02-2003, 03:40 AM
all i know is em took a lonnnnnngggg time to respond to CTHS, then he finally comes back, then Bis comes back with Dr C Phd, curriculum 101, i can u cant and how many emcees and definetely got em scared, after those 4 songs Em should have responded if he didnt know hed lose, dumb ass quickly responds to Benzino of all people but knows canibus would humiliate him

virus
08-02-2003, 07:17 AM
bis isnt gunna come back for a while hes surveing his country... and em comes out with a cd like every year or 2 so ull proll hear then....

i like them both i just think eminem is a bit better

blakwid0w
08-02-2003, 04:46 PM
yea,em leaves a lot of disses on his albums, canibus isnt as lyrically intellgigent,but i will admit he is ill,em is just bein busy playin produca (notice how i say "playin? thats cuz he should stik to rappin)

GangstaChang
08-03-2003, 04:49 PM
^What? Canibus isn't as lyrically intelligent? Wow...i guess it's just an opinion but if you listen to bis' shit it's more intelligent then ems by miles....I think that canibus' lyrics are more intelligent and far sweeter than ems...just my opinion...i think that the song that really shows who "won" this one was canibus' curriculum 101...what a sweet song

blakwid0w
08-05-2003, 04:19 PM
ok atleast we respect opinoins here(and yes i do listen to canibus)atleast they no dikrydas here

GangstaChang
08-07-2003, 11:40 PM
Yea..Em has some hot disses but his disses seem so short lived for the most part...canibus' lyrics blow me away sometimes though

dejavu
02-01-2004, 04:54 PM
I don't think Eminem is scared of Canibus... I think there are a few reasons for going for these public figures... 1. It makes him money... people will buy his CD's for the disses, as well as the tracks... 2. Its more personal... cats talkin about his daughter and whatnot...

Although I do find it odd that he hasn't thrown down a serious full verse on him (I'm not gonna cound "Can-I-Bitch", he HAD to be joking with a track like that), since the beef has been going on for a year or two... I think bis took this from the material released as of now though

ElecTriK ShocKs
02-01-2004, 05:09 PM
Canibus not Lyrically Intelligent? *shakes head* ... He's prolly the most intelligent cat 2 eva bless a mic ...

.Inphinite.
02-01-2004, 07:13 PM
^^Very true..

Death Bed
02-01-2004, 07:35 PM
^na Andre 3000 is deeper..bis is 2nd

Apollyon
02-12-2004, 01:59 AM
Canibus not Lyrically Intelligent? *shakes head* ... He's prolly the most intelligent cat 2 eva bless a mic ...
Sesquipedalian words don't make you intelligent. Subject matter is the actual substance.

THE_G.O.D
02-12-2004, 11:14 AM
the 2 should just let it be and get together and make the hottest track ever

cold nightmare
02-15-2004, 03:47 PM
Eminem had to go all out and could just barly beat Royce 5'9" Canibus wold force him to go all out just to keep up.

You talk shit my personality splits
You get ripped and that's it
A +True Hollywood Story+ bitch
-Rip the Jacker

Maddhatter
02-15-2004, 09:04 PM
Sesquipedalian words don't make you intelligent. Subject matter is the actual substance.

its more then just the big words, canibus is intelligent as fuck and has deap songs. people listen and hear big words like you stated and think hes just sayin big words. sit down and listen to what hes sayin and hes deap and very intelligent.

Apollyon
02-15-2004, 09:22 PM
Eminem had to go all out and could just barly beat Royce 5'9" Canibus wold force him to go all out just to keep up.
When did he beat Royce 5'9? What the hell are you talking about?

its more then just the big words, canibus is intelligent as fuck and has deap songs. people listen and hear big words like you stated and think hes just sayin big words. sit down and listen to what hes sayin and hes deap and very intelligent.
As I stated somewhere else, he genuinely does offer insight sometimes.

But Liberal Arts? NO. Nigganometry? Ehhh.... no. Phuk U? No.

Though I should judge him on his better material.

cold nightmare
02-24-2004, 12:45 PM
[QUOTE=Apollyon]When did he beat Royce 5'9? What the hell are you talking about?


Almost forggot, it's somthin that happened a long time ago and you would only know if you lived in dertroit and saw the match so never mind.

CB2004
04-11-2004, 02:42 PM
[QUOTE=Apollyon]When did he beat Royce 5'9? What the hell are you talking about?


Almost forggot, it's somthin that happened a long time ago and you would only know if you lived in dertroit and saw the match so never mind.
You don't know em's potential his freestyles are amazing there is no end to his skill go to www.eminemlounge.com and get new d12 freestyle EM goes last and for some strange reason i think cannibus is joining forces with aftermath because cannibus just dissed Royce for sayin eminems name in a song .... tthats some Foe getting your back go figure just my oppinion they will be teaming up and on royce recent interiview he said he isnt close to Eminem's level have you ever seen eminem do his best diss on some1 that couldnt handle it he likes to lure them in with weaker ones and then kill them with a strong diss

*3tB*
04-11-2004, 04:37 PM
yall don't even know


canibus and em like each other they have both squashed the beef and it is now purely media hype.....

shady3369
04-12-2004, 02:18 AM
Em and cannabitch are fuding big time. Eminem just came out with a song on cannabitch called cannabitch.

Maddhatter
04-12-2004, 01:43 PM
i think cannibus is joining forces with aftermath because cannibus just dissed Royce for sayin eminems name in a song ....

canibus didnt diss Royce, what are you talkin about?

*3tB*
04-12-2004, 02:37 PM
Em and cannabitch are fuding big time. Eminem just came out with a song on cannabitch called cannabitch.


nah man......that shit is over.......canibitch is old.......it just didn't get released......but now it leaked....that ish is soooooooo old

haha

shady3369
04-12-2004, 03:41 PM
Eminem is the best producer/rapper out.

*3tB*
04-12-2004, 05:07 PM
no he really isn't

shady3369
04-12-2004, 05:46 PM
then who the fuck is

Dont forget eminem is the best!!

*3tB*
04-12-2004, 06:00 PM
best producer

dr. dre or dj premiere

best rapper

canibus

shady3369
04-12-2004, 08:55 PM
Face it dumb ass canibus sucks ass the best Rapper is out right now is Eminem. The bestt Rapper of all time is BIG-L. The best producer is Eminem.

Dont forget Eminem is the Best

*3tB*
04-12-2004, 09:02 PM
u honestly think eminem is that good of a producer?

wow

he is good.........but no where near the best

abilities
premiere
9th wonder
dre
timbaland
kanye

and many many more.......are 10 times better at producing then em

shady3369
04-12-2004, 09:17 PM
if em wasnt a producer we wouldent have 50, obie, g-unit, D-12, and
other niggez you havent even put out a cd yetso he is in that top 10
even the top 5.

Dont forget Eminem is the best

shady3369
04-12-2004, 09:19 PM
ill give props to those other to
.premiere
.timbaland
.dre

*3tB*
04-13-2004, 12:21 AM
ummmm obie and d12 both suck tho

lol

and a lot of g-units beats are the same as the beats on "get rich or die trying"

Fa'Sho
04-22-2004, 06:16 PM
Canibus is the best the fuck Eminem sucks ass not hatin but Canibus is iller..

*AgNoStIc*
04-25-2004, 12:40 PM
Face it dumb ass canibus sucks ass the best Rapper is out right now is Eminem. The bestt Rapper of all time is BIG-L. The best producer is Eminem.

Dont forget Eminem is the Best

eminem isnt the best...lyrically canibus kills him...

eminem isnt a good producer...all his beats sound the same

cold nightmare
04-27-2004, 10:25 AM
Quick qustion out off most of the people who say Eminem is better than Canibis are they going with actual opinions with support or are they just going with the standard Em say's he's wack and that enough for me. If your going to say Canibis is wack please come with more than just because Em said so.

skorch
05-03-2004, 05:06 PM
nah, canibus is lyrically iller then em, but em has better punchlines when he spits. all around canibus is the illest dead or alive. em's an aight producer but right now dre,abilities,are the ones ahead of him, he just needs more time. -1-

d-sko
05-04-2004, 05:30 PM
thats some deep shit godson101

a do one of those on 50 and ja rule or nas and jay-z
cuz than we can know all the details

renzo
05-11-2004, 07:06 AM
Damn, I didn't know Em's verse in "Me Against the Music" was directed
at Bis. Wow.

Thanks for the info, Godson.

And truthfully, it's next to impossible comparing Em with Bis. They are both exceptionally great in their own right:

Em has clever wordplay and he makes you listen to him. Canibus is just a genius--period. Much of what he says is difficult for the normal person to grasp, so they choose to brush aside what they cannot understand. But Bis's genius cannot be denied. To this day, he does not cease to amaze me.

Em has received the commercial and MC respect he deserves.

Canibus, on the other hand, is the single MOST UNDERRATED MC OF ALL TIME--POINT BLANK. In fact, it makes me mad everytime I think he's not appreciated.

Canibus will never be Eminem and Eminem will never be Canibus.

Anyways, I hope they squash it (if they haven't already) and contribute a track to the rap world--something we have been waiting on for far too long.

I have been a Canibus fan since day one, and I will always be; I'm glad I ran into this forum, where Canibus is given the respect he rightfully deserves.

I'm out.

Maddhatter
05-11-2004, 05:20 PM
nice post renzo, i feel the same way about bis as you, especially about him being the most underrated ever. anyways, if you havent checked out www.canibusworld.com or www.ripthejacker.net, you should peap them to talk with a lot of canibus fans

renzo
05-11-2004, 08:10 PM
nice post renzo, i feel the same way about bis as you, especially about him being the most underrated ever. anyways, if you havent checked out www.canibusworld.com or www.ripthejacker.net, you should peap them to talk with a lot of canibus fans

Thanks a lot.

I'll check 'em out.

renzo
05-12-2004, 12:09 AM
By the way, in my first line in my earlier post I meant "When the Music Stops" by Eminem.

Not sure why I wrote "Me Against the Music"--which is a Britney Spears song.

I doubt Britney and Em would ever collaborate in a song. ;)

some_guy
05-31-2004, 12:47 PM
hey, I've only skimmed through this thread so I'm not sure if anyone’s already mentioned this but if you read a couple of canibus interviews it's pretty obvious that the whole beef isn't that big of a deal.

For example, this a quote from canibusworld.com:

"You know I’ve heard people talking about that but I wouldn’t say that it was about Eminem. Everytime people hear me rhyme they analyze my lyrics to death. But as far as Eminem, let me say this- I got a mutual respect for Eminem because between his rhyming content and delivery, I think he's tight and that goes with out saying. He's got the total package and has proven himself in the arena of selling records. So for the record I do wanna say that he is tight without a shadow of a doubt. If you ask Em about me he will say the same thing about me. As far as our careers it's just that he ran off with Dre when he got in the game and I ran off with Clef you know? If the tables were turned then maybe things would have been different also."



I apologize if this thread is a little old, I just discovered this while searching through canibus info on google.

skitzou
06-02-2004, 06:07 AM
em and bis are both ill!em's wordplay, rhyming with syllables and exceptional delivery while bis has a dope vocabulary,his intellect is out of this world!hope the two would do something for hip-hop instead of their personal prides.

Malacia
06-06-2004, 12:35 PM
Canibus will always have the upper hand on eminem.

Epide-Mic
06-08-2004, 07:15 PM
yo lemme say a lil sum, cannibitch is sum1 ive never personaly liked but his lyrics are pretty ill but eminem is da illest battle rapper goin in my opinion he illest rapper full stop and hes a hell ov a producer mabee not best but hes close he made dying to live an amazing track because ov his beat kanye west is a good producer buh not the best tha guys jus annoying he got like 20 tracks on da go like ok we no your good no need 2 over exagerate n dr dre in his day was an ill ass producer tha guys old nowa days tho em's beats r much mor up beat: anyways in my opinion eminems much better than bis

Pz!

D-Illar-1
06-15-2004, 06:14 PM
.....
Lesson Three: Get a job at a label; switch demos with Canibus
and put yours on the owner's table (here listen!)


Actually, those rooted from the 12 Miunte Freestyle with Royce Da 5'9" and Eminem, which at the time, both Bis and Em were trying to get their names out there.

And then, it was used as a diss in Get U Mad, because he realized he said that previously in a freestyle and he was beefing with Bis.....

Slit Viciouz
07-15-2004, 03:48 AM
..And truthfully, it's next to impossible comparing Em with Bis. They are both exceptionally great in their own right:

Em has clever wordplay and he makes you listen to him. Canibus is just a genius--period. Much of what he says is difficult for the normal person to grasp, so they choose to brush aside what they cannot understand. But Bis's genius cannot be denied. To this day, he does not cease to amaze me.

Em has received the commercial and MC respect he deserves.

Canibus, on the other hand, is the single MOST UNDERRATED MC OF ALL TIME--POINT BLANK. In fact, it makes me mad everytime I think he's not appreciated.

Canibus will never be Eminem and Eminem will never be Canibus.

Anyways, I hope they squash it (if they haven't already) and contribute a track to the rap world--something we have been waiting on for far too long.


^^ this is the best way to break it down. much props to renzo, u laid it out nicely.

i think that their flow and delivery is the only difference, that is the only thing em got ova him, and i say this becuase the flow and delivery of eminem is what appeals to the masses and is what draws the regular rap fan to listen to him. my personal proof is how my grandmother who is like in her mid 50s or 60s may hate the way his content and his curses but loves to listen to him spit, and thats becuase his flow and delivery is appealing.

canibus on the other side he comes off extremely confident which my be confused for a big ego which i love cus thats his style. but the masses are still not ready for his flow or delivery. they're even more turned off when they hear his vocab, the regular rap fan dosent want to hear that which fucking sucks but is tru. i think if canibus flow and delivery was appealing he would be able to sell records cus him and em would truely be neck to neck.

pz ya'll

Majesty
07-17-2004, 01:02 PM
Bis Will Kill Eminems Soft Ass.. Canibus Is Not OnlY Intellectual, He's Hardcore, Em Isn't Remotley Close To Bis....

Apollyon
07-17-2004, 01:05 PM
Kill him at what? A science test? A philosophy debate?

Majesty
07-25-2004, 01:54 PM
That and about anything that has to do with a fuckin brain.. like rhyming...

how about that^

Apollyon
07-25-2004, 03:49 PM
Heh heh... no.

Sorry, but Bis was worse than Em, overall. Look at the majority of his songs. They have no structure. They're just flirting with concepts for the purpose of self-glorification (or insight), leading on the others which are seemingly chosen because they rhyme with the former.

Eminem multis more on average and can do it more consistently. He also dedicates whole songs to particular ideas better. Just look at Stan and compare it to "U Didn't Care". Though "Bis vs. Rip", "Poet Laureate II" (I preferred it to the original), and a few others were ill, but they stood alone. Rip the Jacker (the album, not the song) was pretty decent, but suffered from it's lyrically sporadic, yet conceptually repetitive nature and lack of any focus.

Canibus was probably best in his battle era, despite the monotony of purism, because he had, and still has charisma, which has projected an image of greatness that exceeds that which his lyrics warrant.

Eminem's released more epic albums, at least in my opinion. They're both pretty damn good. But Em's better. Si?

Majesty
07-25-2004, 10:46 PM
^ Jargon..

You've been brain washed just like every other loser on here..
Canibus' records suffer because of the lack of production skills backing him..
Em is conceptually terrible, I can't believe that you even mensioned concepts.. laughable, Stan, Lose Yourself, n a few others were great songs, yet are but a minority of what he produces.. Bis self-glorifies, yet on a lot of the songshe doesn't, even the ones you've pointed out, he displays philisophical insight.
Eminem has no message or insight.. he's bland at the root of it.. He is a drug addict who bags on his mom.. he even said it..
he'll never be as intellectually stimulating, or even poetically versed as Bis.. Bis expells more syllables per word in Bars than Eminem, his multies contain multie-syllabic words.. some complex and academic..
his structue is great, you lack the ears for percieving rhythm obviously..
Eminem is average, i'm not impressed..

Bis.. 9/10
Em.. 8/10

Apollyon
07-26-2004, 10:06 AM
^ Jargon..

You've been brain washed just like every other loser on here..When all else fails, accuse everyone of being wrong apart from you...

Canibus' records suffer because of the lack of production skills backing him..They did up to a point. Now they certainly don't.

Em is conceptually terrible, I can't believe that you even mensioned concepts.. laughable,Excuse me?

Name songs on the conceptual par of Guilty Conscience, My Fault, 97' Bonnie and Clyde, Backstabber... even ones where he shares his perspective and introspection, that Canibus has done. You can't compare stuff like "How Many Emcees" to "Marshall Mathers". Your point is bullshit.

Stan, Lose Yourself, n a few others were great songs, yet are but a minority of what he produces..Would you expect ANY emcee to churn out songs like that on a regular basis?

Bis self-glorifies, yet on a lot of the songshe doesn't, even the ones you've pointed out, he displays philisophical insight....In short bursts and normally wedged between bars of nonsensical psychobabble or pointless metaphors.
To find the answers that we didn't know
Maybe Edgar Allen Poe's description of El Dorado is not so
See the reason there is no light at the end of the tunnel
Cause we really not in a tunnel we're trapped in a bubble
With government hierarchy, and the dreads of society
Can you explain why you believe hell is fiery?
We suffering from symptoms drapetomania
Slavery isn't over it just took a new alias
The data repository established for the maintenance
Almost turned me into an atheist scared of aliens
Why write lyrics when I can make a better living
Selling freeze-dried venom to wildlife clinicsPhase shiftin to 45 angle degrees,
I'm too crooked to see, I memorize the books that I read,
Sucking from the breasts of knowledge, constantly weaning,
Unbeseemingly a genius without meaning,
Try to visualize what Harry Houdini was feeling,
Hand-cuffed under water, without breathing,
Near death, on a fatal quest for air,
But why should anyone care, he put himself there,
His career was based on facing his fears,
To take destiny from the hand of the man upstairs,
He didn't mind the cold stares he got from his peers,
they couldn't tell him where he was going, or how to get there,
It's better to be prepared and fail,
Then to be scared and unsure of yourself, and still get killed,
Don't rhyme like I used to, but I still got skills,
More than a couple confirmed kills, under the belt,
Huntin emcees like huntin elk,
Camoflaged in the dense brush for stealth, determined as Hell,

Eminem has no message or insight.. he's bland at the root of it..Okay, I've just reached the conclusion that you're stupid. Virtually all of his songs have some sort of message or share his take on some kind of issue. To think otherwise, you'd have to be biased. In fact, it'd be a lot shorter to name all the songs that Eminem has done that haven't got any kind of message or insight. Please do yourself a favor and listen to his lyrics before you attempt to criticise them and save yourself looking like a fucktard, 'kay?

He is a drug addict who bags on his mom.. he even said it..PLEASE. FUCKING. TELL. ME. YOU. ARE. JOKING.Now you probly get this picture from my public persona
That I'm a pistol-packing drug-addict who bags on his momma,
But I wanna just take this time out to be perfectly honest
Cuz there's a lot of shit I keep bottled that hurts deep inside o' my soul,
And just know that I grow colder the older I growWhat does that say, hmm? It says you're an idiot.

he'll never be as intellectually stimulating, or even poetically versed as Bis..Intellectual stimulation is a variable which is based in it's entirety on the reciever. Nothing can be instrinsically intellectually stimulating. Nothing divulges inspiration. It's simply what you perceive in external stimuli.

And as for both points, I believe that you just used filler to attempt to build an argument on analogs which you attempt to pass off as facts, despite knowing there's no definitive way in which the values of being "poetically versed" or "intellectually stimulating" can be measured. It's the equivalent of a Christian trying to argue that God exists by claiming to have "a feeling deep down in their souls".

Bis expells more syllables per word in Bars than Eminem,Do you know what you're talking about? You're sayng that Bis has a higher syllable-to-word ratio than Eminem, which is the same as saying that he uses longer words, which is true, but doesn't make him any better.

his multies contain multie-syllabic words.. some complex and academic..Wow, that is so amazing... I hope you realise that this point leads you nowhere. Any dufus with a dictionary or a thesaurus can have polysyllabic verbiage in their verses. Does that require skill or talent? Or is it conceiving content which is harder, hmm?

his structue is great, you lack the ears for percieving rhythm obviously..Jesus Christ. Let's use vague words like 'great' and follow them up with an insult which involves another bullshit value such as perception and all be as CLEVAR as you. Try comparing their verse structure, dipshit. If you want to argue in abitrary terms, then who of the two makes sense more often? Who was wittier? Who relies almost entirely on references to concepts and who creates their own? Don't think too hard, now...
Eminem is average, i'm not impressed..

Bis.. 9/10
Em.. 8/10Perfect conclusion to a perfectly retarded explanation. Take what's left of your dignity and leave.

D-Illar-1
07-26-2004, 10:10 AM
Canibus, on the other hand, is the single MOST UNDERRATED MC OF ALL TIME--POINT BLANK. In fact, it makes me mad everytime I think he's not appreciated.


^I'll piss on you for saying that.

Go buy "The Big Picture" and "Lifestylez" and anything else labeled Big L and you shall be shut up.

Majesty
07-26-2004, 07:55 PM
When all else fails, accuse everyone of being wrong apart from you...

They did up to a point. Now they certainly don't.

Excuse me?

Name songs on the conceptual par of Guilty Conscience, My Fault, 97' Bonnie and Clyde, Backstabber... even ones where he shares his perspective and introspection, that Canibus has done. You can't compare stuff like "How Many Emcees" to "Marshall Mathers". Your point is bullshit.

Would you expect ANY emcee to churn out songs like that on a regular basis?

...In short bursts and normally wedged between bars of nonsensical psychobabble or pointless metaphors.


Okay, I've just reached the conclusion that you're stupid. Virtually all of his songs have some sort of message or share his take on some kind of issue. To think otherwise, you'd have to be biased. In fact, it'd be a lot shorter to name all the songs that Eminem has done that haven't got any kind of message or insight. Please do yourself a favor and listen to his lyrics before you attempt to criticise them and save yourself looking like a fucktard, 'kay?

PLEASE. FUCKING. TELL. ME. YOU. ARE. JOKING.What does that say, hmm? It says you're an idiot.

Intellectual stimulation is a variable which is based in it's entirety on the reciever. Nothing can be instrinsically intellectually stimulating. Nothing divulges inspiration. It's simply what you perceive in external stimuli.

And as for both points, I believe that you just used filler to attempt to build an argument on analogs which you attempt to pass off as facts, despite knowing there's no definitive way in which the values of being "poetically versed" or "intellectually stimulating" can be measured. It's the equivalent of a Christian trying to argue that God exists by claiming to have "a feeling deep down in their souls".

Do you know what you're talking about? You're sayng that Bis has a higher syllable-to-word ratio than Eminem, which is the same as saying that he uses longer words, which is true, but doesn't make him any better.

Wow, that is so amazing... I hope you realise that this point leads you nowhere. Any dufus with a dictionary or a thesaurus can have polysyllabic verbiage in their verses. Does that require skill or talent? Or is it conceiving content which is harder, hmm?

Jesus Christ. Let's use vague words like 'great' and follow them up with an insult which involves another bullshit value such as perception and all be as CLEVAR as you. Try comparing their verse structure, dipshit. If you want to argue in abitrary terms, then who of the two makes sense more often? Who was wittier? Who relies almost entirely on references to concepts and who creates their own? Don't think too hard, now...
Perfect conclusion to a perfectly retarded explanation. Take what's left of your dignity and leave.

= Bullshit.. lmao

man, your brain is so degenerated that you can't process a logical thought to transfer into a coherrent point.. you don't have one..
Plus, you are so infactuated with a white celeBrity (feminem) that you accredit him with enough power to decide the level of my personal dignity.. if you really take this to be true, then i;ve priven my point.. you're just another 16 brain washed kid, who can't understand what canibus' says, so throws it away as rubbish for you're own intellectual pride..
can you go into an indebth conversation about Cosmilogical inflation, or about the The Digital Sky Survey, inwhich canibus brings up in Poet Lauraette 2...

The Break Down.. hold your breath..

Eminem is first of all nothing more than a commodity.. a white rebel..
"let's do the math, if I was black, I wouldn't of sold half
I didn't have to graduate from Lincoln High School and all that"
Eminem

he even said it himself.. his content is ridiculous and is not the reason that he is considered good.. people don't say "oh, I just love Eminems content, he is so deep, what he says is an inspiration to every young kid who wants to rap". that sound ridiculous

Skills.. He has a contant flow, in which he utilized phrases, and also has internal rhyme with in his rhyme schemes to help his flow.. a lot of his rhyming is on point..
meta's are usually sorta sick, and unappealing to a black man who just wants to listen to music, or art.. white trailer trash can relate.. his content has no message, he raps about bullshit, WHAT IN THE FUCK IS MY BAND? they dress up like bitches, you like sissy rap.. he battles pop stars and his only acheivments were getting merked in the scribble jam by MC juice..
his first album Infinite sucked major ass, and that also had no concepts and was just like a little kid playing with rhymes..
when he did challenge canibus and wrote Canibtch, he made up a long ficticious story about some stupid shit.. he didn't stab canibus with a fuckin fork! wtf, do you mean concepts.. when Canibus made U didn't Care it metaphorically discribed how Em was a stan to pop stars before he got big..
pause.. YOU'RE BEING CRUSHED RIGHT NOW, lol
anyway, He also wrote while Bis was away, coward move..

Canibus made a Song called "AIDS IS GOLD" that is more socially concious than anything that eminem has made... it was about the history and affects of aids in this nations which included prevention techniques (condoms) and statistics from the world health organization, so shut the fuck up about concepts, because you lost on that already..

now multies, Canibus has true multie, Em doesn't.. Bis has multie syllabic words that he can rhye with phrases and other words.. Em rhymes with Phrases.. plus Bis is smarter and Em makes up words just to rhyme sometmes.

"Intergalactical metaphores from mars" Eminem, Canibitch

he tries to diss canibus but says "INTERGALACTICAL" WHAT IN THE FUCK IS "INTERGALACTICAL"!.. INTERGALACTIC, MEANS WITH IN THIS GALAXY, BUT "INTERGALACTICAL..

YOU CAN LIKE EM IF YOU WANT, BUT IT SHOWS YOUR LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE, AS AN ILLITERATE, NON-SPELLING, DRUG ADDICT IMPRESSES YOU....

WE'LL JUST SEE.. P.S, I HOPE I DIDN'T GO TOO HARD ON YOUR MAN. BUT THE TRUTH HURTS.. NOW TAKE YO ASS THE THE EMINEM FORUM..

Majesty
07-26-2004, 08:12 PM
and say what you want but you'll be complainin to the rest of the room because I won't read your bullshit response.. i've embarrassed the shit out of you above, and i honestly feel a little sorry for you... but i can't edit it anymore to make it lighter in content, lol..for you're an oblivious to real hip hop, wanna be included, brain washed, 16 year old, white boy with no knowledge on this subject anyway, so it ain't worth it.. peace eminem's man...lol

Apollyon
07-27-2004, 11:04 AM
'Fore I start, thanks for the PM...
i just embarrassed you in the Canibus thread, and i'm hittin you up to appologize.. i was kinda hard on you and your lover.. (Eminem) check it out.. haha

HOW TO BE A GRADE A MORON IN SEVEN EASY STEPS

= Bullshit.. lmao1) This step is very important, so pay attention. You must label everything you don't understand as 'bullshit', thus eliminating the need to defend your retarded logic. If this hasn't exhausted your mental reserves, move onto point 2...

If done correctly, your victim's mood should be the following = :o
man, your brain is so degenerated that you can't process a logical thought to transfer into a coherrent point.. you don't have one..2) You must then proceed to crack open the moron's best friend: the dictionary! But where to start? You can't say "Arrr, ye absolved aardvark on an ark!", can you? Well, you can, seeing as this is going to be pretty much near what you're going to end up with anyway, but for maximum effect you should flip to the handy section at the back called "Adjectives for Pseudo-Intellectuals" to find everything you'll need to construct a misspelled insult (with a really snappy punchline at the end) to show them you mean business.

Plus, you are so infactuated with a white celeBrity (feminem) that you accredit him with enough power to decide the level of my personal dignity..3) This step is not for amateurs. Accuse your victim of being so infatuated with whatever they are defending that... (consult the dictionary at this point and finish your sentence with the first words you encounter).
Your sentence should look something like this:

"your so infactuated wit your dum relativity theory that you think its big enoff to replace mars!!!!!! lmao!!!!!"

This uses the cunning tactic of making it sound like you're validating one point with another, when in essence all you're doing is trying to compensate for your lack of virility by impotently (if you'll excuse the term) trying to insult people on the internet.

if you really take this to be true, then i;ve priven my point.. you're just another 16 brain washed kid, who can't understand what canibus' says, so throws it away as rubbish for you're own intellectual pride..4) But the bullshit doesn't have to end there! Follow up on your baffling statement and seize on their confusion claiming you've proven your point beyond reasonable doubt! Genius! Then use a tactic which was formulated by conspiracy theorists and Christians everywhere: say whomever disagrees with you is brainwashed and can't understand the magnitude of what you're arguing for due to their intellectual ineptitude, despite the fact you're the one using this guide. Everyone'll think you're the man and no woman will be able to resist your masculine charm (no matter whatever *cough* shortcomings you possess), and your crestfallen opponent will never be able to get more than a minimum wage job and a fat slut from that day on.

Your victim's mood = :confused:
can you go into an indebth conversation about Cosmilogical inflation, or about the The Digital Sky Survey, inwhich canibus brings up in Poet Lauraette 2...5) This is the best part! Expose them for the fraud they are by displaying your mental puissance for the world to see. By challenging them to start a debate about the well known theory that the universe is expanding (which usually has nothing to do with the subject at hand) or the Sloan Digital Sky Survey to confound and amaze. And if you're called out on this, remember that the medium you're using is also an extensive archive of information which can be copied and pasted with ease. Remember, it's only nerdy if someone else is doing it.

The Break Down.. hold your breath..

Eminem is first of all nothing more than a commodity.. a white rebel..
"let's do the math, if I was black, I wouldn't of sold half
I didn't have to graduate from Lincoln High School and all that"
Eminem6) Then after proving the intellectual divide of chasmal proportions, go the extra mile and actually try to say something in defense of your point. Always try to side with a biased media perspective on the issue. Try to sound mature and hopelessly conservative, but whatever you do, try not to make it obvious you ride the dick of anything that:


Has long words and gives the impression of you being smart for liking it.
Has a gaping lack of substance, despite your futile claims.

And be especially sure to misinterpret quotes and try to bolster your ignorant point. That's the golden rule: always take things out of context and hope no-one notices that you're a pretentious dipshit.

he even said it himself.. his content is ridiculous and is not the reason that he is considered good.. people don't say "oh, I just love Eminems content, he is so deep, what he says is an inspiration to every young kid who wants to rap". that sound ridiculousThis part isn't a step so much as senile rambling. Remember to focus on one aspect of what you're arguing against and don't allow yourself to be coerced into thinking about anything else, because you'll be accepting that you were proved wrong. Repeatedly. Like the little bitch you are.

Skills.. He has a contant flow, in which he utilized phrases, and also has internal rhyme with in his rhyme schemes to help his flow.. a lot of his rhyming is on point..
meta's are usually sorta sick, and unappealing to a black man who just wants to listen to music, or art.. white trailer trash can relate..7) Talk shit as if you know anything about what you're arguing against (for a completely random example, we'll say.... rhyming schemes) and play the racist card at every possible juncture, because everyone knows that racially targeting caucasians is socially acceptable.

Victim's current mood = :(

And from here on, anything you say won't matter because you've already made yourself look macho! Learn these rules by heart and maybe one day you'll master the art of circumlocutive and plain erroneous speech. Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf would be proud.

his content has no message, he raps about bullshit, WHAT IN THE FUCK IS MY BAND?What the fuck is My Band? Shit. What the fuck was "'C'! True Hollywood Stories?" Or the "Brainstream"? "My Name is Nobody"? Even shit shits on those. Flies probably take detours away from those steaming piles of cack. I don't even like "My Band", but at least the video saves it from complete mediocrity.

they dress up like bitches, you like sissy rap..Sissy rap? Listen to "Here 4 Free" and tell me about "Sissy rap".

he battles pop starsYou need to reduce the LSD in your diet and focus on increasing your cyanide intake instead.

and his only acheivments were getting merked in the scribble jam by MC juice.. It's a well known fact that Eminem's terrible at freestyling. Freestyle ability has no relevance whatsoever to your ability as a writer. Bsides, Canibus never even entered Scribble Jam, let alone made second place.

his first album Infinite sucked major ass, and that also had no concepts and was just like a little kid playing with rhymes.."Backstabber", "Maxine", "Never 2 Far", "It's OK", "Jealousy Woes". You're fucking dense. Stop typing. I think Infinite was Eminem's worst solo album, but it didn't "suck" by any measure.

when he did challenge canibus and wrote Canibtch, he made up a long ficticious story about some stupid shit.. he didn't stab canibus with a fuckin fork! wtf,He didn't get in the Batmobile with Dre and run over Jermaine Dupri and the Petshop Boys either. OH MY GOD, IT'S ALL LIES!!!!! Jesus fucking Christ, learn the meaning of the word "satire". You've got your dictionary right there, haven't you?

do you mean concepts.. when Canibus made U didn't Care it metaphorically discribed how Em was a stan to pop stars before he got big..No. It was not. It was saying that he got record sales by insulting pop stars, which is partially true. It was also, and more importantly, laughably retarded. Canibus is ashamed of it, as he said later "I went through a long period of mourning and sadness when I wrote that Stan shit". It was as if he adopted the character that Eminem killed off in a bid to insult/idolise Eminem, and came off looking like a complete idiot in the process. It was easily one of his worst songs.

pause.. YOU'RE BEING CRUSHED RIGHT NOW, lol
Originally Said by Big L
Ha ha, you’s a funny nigga.

anyway, He also wrote while Bis was away, coward move..Nope, it was 2001. It just wasn't publicly leaked until more recently. Did I mention that you're stupid?

Apollyon
07-27-2004, 11:31 AM
Canibus made a Song called "AIDS IS GOLD" that is more socially concious than anything that eminem has made...Canibus cock-riders make me feel sad. :(

it was about the history and affects of aids in this nations which included prevention techniques (condoms) and statistics from the world health organization, so shut the fuck up about concepts, because you lost on that already..HIV is platinuuuum!!! It can be summed up as thus: AIDS kills people. Use a condom. WOW, THE MAN IS OVERFLOWING WITH CREATIVITY AND IMAGINATION. STDs are not an original concept in rap.

Listen to "Sing for the Moment" or basically any song off Eminem's four albums and tell me that they don't have concepts, you fucking moron. Go on, geddafuckouttahere.

now multies, Canibus has true multie, Em doesn't.. Bis has multie syllabic words that he can rhye with phrases and other words.. Em rhymes with Phrases.. plus Bis is smarter and Em makes up words just to rhyme sometmes....

"Intergalactical metaphores from mars" Eminem, Canibitch

he tries to diss canibus but says "INTERGALACTICAL" WHAT IN THE FUCK IS "INTERGALACTICAL"!.. INTERGALACTIC, MEANS WITH IN THIS GALAXY, BUT "INTERGALACTICAL.."Intergalactical" is a facetious word. So? Don't get a stiffy over it. Eminem's not even the first to use it.

YOU CAN LIKE EM IF YOU WANT, BUT IT SHOWS YOUR LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE, AS AN ILLITERATE, NON-SPELLING, DRUG ADDICT IMPRESSES YOU....Yes. It really shows my lack of intelligence. I bow to your superior intellect and capital letters, especially since you called someone who makes a living off being literate "illiterate" and "non-spelling".

WE'LL JUST SEE.. P.S, I HOPE I DIDN'T GO TOO HARD ON YOUR MAN. BUT THE TRUTH HURTS.. NOW TAKE YO ASS THE THE EMINEM FORUM..Noooo! My life is ruined forever! You're so insensitive. :(

When you make enough money selling your ass to your sugar daddy, try investing in something to slit your wrists with. Peace.

Majesty
07-28-2004, 12:22 AM
Canibus, on the other hand, is the single MOST UNDERRATED MC OF ALL TIME--POINT BLANK. In fact, it makes me mad everytime I think he's not appreciated.


^I'll piss on you for saying that.

Go buy "The Big Picture" and "Lifestylez" and anything else labeled Big L and you shall be shut up.

I agree.. atleast someone one on here knows about hip hop..

^ I didn't even read that bullshit above.. i don't have time..

FiRON
07-28-2004, 05:20 PM
wuts the brainstream EP? never heard of it, i just got into bis hes so raw in his raps, and complex, it gives me headaches but nuttin a little ibuprofin cant fix, i got all his albums execpt "C" THS and i think all he needs is the production and he is the best rapper plus his crew with Kurupt Killah Priest and Ras Kass, wOW...its just not fair
if i had to choose the best bis album its deffinatly 2000 B.C. which is the first one i got because i heard of him and i got the album used for 4$s damn its like my best CD to. i say that EM has nuttin on him and he talks like bis is ass???? but he know that bis really torn his shit up, plus i'd like to say that i hate the way em gets OBsesed with beefs how many F'ing benzino songs has he mad, it aint even cool no more and he hasnt made a good diss to royce yet

Apollyon
07-28-2004, 05:35 PM
Eminem did about four Benzino disses (and one of them was a freestyle), he's not even beefing with Royce, the Brainstream is one of the "Lost Tapes" (and was wack as fuck by the way) and Canibus isn't better than Eminem. Well, he is now, but he wasn't.

D-Illar-1
07-28-2004, 05:40 PM
1. Em knows Royce can get at him personally. That's why he ain't dissin' em.
2. I like both rappers, but Eminem doesn't have the metaphors nor the flow to compete with Bis. Bis has a nearly flawless flow while Em has that spill-over yucky quick shit. Sometimes it's tight, sometimes it's not
3. Bis doesn't need to diss Em anymore. They just need to battle and let the real hip-hop heads decide. becuase these MTV/VH1/BET wagon fucks will vote Eminem all the way, unless you got one guy in the crowd that knows Canibus. He'll be the only one to vote for Bis.

So basically, Em WOULD beat Bis in a battle(if it were on MTV or BET). Because when it comes to signed heads battling, unless they're equally popular, the most popular MC in the battle will win....

D-Illar-1
07-28-2004, 05:40 PM
1. Em knows Royce can get at him personally. That's why he ain't dissin' em.
2. I like both rappers, but Eminem doesn't have the metaphors nor the flow to compete with Bis. Bis has a nearly flawless flow while Em has that spill-over yucky quick shit. Sometimes it's tight, sometimes it's not
3. Bis doesn't need to diss Em anymore. They just need to battle and let the real hip-hop heads decide. becuase these MTV/VH1/BET wagon fucks will vote Eminem all the way, unless you got one guy in the crowd that knows Canibus. He'll be the only one to vote for Bis.

So basically, Em WOULD beat Bis in a battle(if it were on MTV or BET). Because when it comes to signed heads battling, unless they're equally popular, the most popular MC in the battle will win....

U.D.D.
07-29-2004, 02:28 PM
spot on D.

Apollyon
07-29-2004, 07:52 PM
1. Em knows Royce can get at him personally. That's why he ain't dissin' em.True, but I think it's also a lot to do with the fact that Eminem has no reason to beef with Royce, seeing as he's the one who 'betrayed' their friendship.

2. I like both rappers, but Eminem doesn't have the metaphors nor the flow to compete with Bis. Bis has a nearly flawless flow while Em has that spill-over yucky quick shit. Sometimes it's tight, sometimes it's notMetaphors?

Originally said by Eminem
"You already know who's is fully capable, the two capped heroes
Dial straight down the center 8-0-0
You can even call collect, the most feared duet
Since me and Elton, played career russian roulette"

"I feel like I'm walking a tight rope, without a circus net
I'm popping perkasets, I'm a nervous wreck
I deserve respect; but I work a sweat for this worthless check
Bout to burst this tech, at somebody to reverse this debt"

"No more games, I'ma change what you call rage
Tear this mothafuckin roof off like 2 dogs caged
I was playin in the beginnin, the mood all changed
I been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage"

"I'm going for broke, gambling and playing for keeps
Everyday in the streets, scrambling and paying for cheep
Praying for sleep
Dreaming with a watering mouth
Wishing for a better life for my daughter and spouse
In this slaughtering house, caught up in bouts
With the root of all evil
I've seen it turn beautiful people crude and deceitful"

"Give me eleven Excederin my head'll spin
Medicine'll get me revvin like a 747 jet engine
Scratched my balls til I shredded skin
"Doctor, check this rash, look how red it's been"
"It's probably AIDS!" Forget it then"

Originally said by Canibus
"Back the tougher shit. What a wimp
You giant Goliath. Niggas get shot with a rubber sling
I'm an experiment gone bad.
My brainwaves on an encephalograph show that I'm stark ravin mad
Your whole scientific staff'll get killed in a nuclear blast
When I throw the formula stashed in my hand
Flammable liquids in the lab explode
And you get stabbed with all the flyin glass
Trained to blow up commercial aircrafts
Trained in chemical weapons class
Just to see how long a nigga's breath'll last"

"Your face look spaced out
I gut you like a trout
And scream my name out while I'm scrapin your rib cage out
Squeeze with the index, spray like a bottle of windex
Bullets buzzin by your head like insects
From your head to your mid-sec'
And I ain't even shoot you in the legs or your limbs or your dick yet
Your masculinity is questionable
You probably a homosexual
Just the thought of havin a woman lay next to you probably threatens you
You probably look at grapes and see testicles
You probably fantasize about vegetables
like cucumbers and bananas havin sex with you
And you probably let gerbles crawl up your rectum too"

"This game is Chinese chess
Countless issues need to be addressed
Before the East nukes the West
Totalitarianistic cause-'n-effect
"Run the words through a decompressor, recompress the depth"
Canibus is the most explosive next to meth"

"The C-A-N dash I dash
B-U-S gets the last laugh, before the critical mass
In half the speed of a bulb flash
Fire engulf that ass, into a mole hill of charcoal ash
Only to be blown away by a cold draft
Wack emcees got no chance, it's so sad"

"Gettin so high that whenever I drop shit
it'll land on the window of your airplane cockpit
Canibus with the hot shit, "Crazy I. Click"
Niggaz is bloody idiots thinkin that they can stop this
I'll increase my strength, to a super human extent
Nigga your rhyme ain't worth sixpence
And if you can hear, smell, see, touch, and taste
then you don't need six senses to feel me punch you in the face"
They both have metaphors, but I personally think that Eminem chooses them more logically and uses them more coherently, as exhibited above.

Flow? Em's flow didn't suck until he started sucking. I don't know how the heck you can describe it as "spill-over yucky quick shit", especially as his bars are even for the most part and his flow was more or less impeccable, no matter what style he flipped.

3. Bis doesn't need to diss Em anymore. They just need to battle and let the real hip-hop heads decide. becuase these MTV/VH1/BET wagon fucks will vote Eminem all the way, unless you got one guy in the crowd that knows Canibus. He'll be the only one to vote for Bis.

So basically, Em WOULD beat Bis in a battle(if it were on MTV or BET). Because when it comes to signed heads battling, unless they're equally popular, the most popular MC in the battle will win....Oh, a battle. Canibus would rip Eminem in a face-to-face, unwritten battle, straight up. Even if MTV/BET viewers voted for it, Bis would still take it.

Diss track wise, it'd be a very different story, however.

D-Illar-1
07-29-2004, 08:01 PM
Finally, someone has admitted Em is not invincible at battling.

Apollyon
07-29-2004, 08:25 PM
I think anyone who's seen or heard him battle would know that. Even his most avid dickrider would be forced to concede it. Eminem's in the league of Immortal Technique when it comes to freestyling, and that's a very, very bad thing indeed.

D-Illar-1
07-29-2004, 09:01 PM
LMAO. That was cold.

Majesty
07-30-2004, 02:59 PM
True, And You Are The Most Avid Dickrider^..

And One Must Feel Truly Defeated When He/she Puts A Quote Of Another On Their Sig.. I Hardley Get On Here And He's Obsessed With Me Already Because Know One In Here Agrees With Him.. Lmao

Em Is Garbage Compared To Bis.. Enough Said.. This Shouldn't Be An Argument, The Real Hip Hop Heads Know..

Majesty
07-30-2004, 03:01 PM
Can I Post?

Majesty
07-30-2004, 03:03 PM
I think anyone who's seen or heard him battle would know that. Even his most avid dickrider would be forced to concede it. Eminem's in the league of Immortal Technique when it comes to freestyling, and that's a very, very bad thing indeed.

ACTUALLY IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE IS BETTER THAN EM ALSO.. HE'S EXPLOSIVE AND HIS PUNCHES ARE RIDICULOUSLY BETTER.. EM LACKS WHERE EVERYONE ELSE EXCELLS.. BUT WHO CARE, I'M LEAVING THIS FOOLISH TOPIC..

ALL OF THE SMART PEOPLE IN HERE KNOWS THAT BIS IS BETTER, PERIOD...

Majesty
07-30-2004, 03:14 PM
Nuff Said ..................................................

Apollyon
07-30-2004, 04:02 PM
ACTUALLY IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE IS BETTER THAN EM ALSO.. HE'S EXPLOSIVE AND HIS PUNCHES ARE RIDICULOUSLY BETTER.. EM LACKS WHERE EVERYONE ELSE EXCELLS.. BUT WHO CARE, I'M LEAVING THIS FOOLISH TOPIC..

ALL OF THE SMART PEOPLE IN HERE KNOWS THAT BIS IS BETTER, PERIOD...Haha, you're a joke.

That's less dumb than stating that Canibus is better than Eminem, because Immortal Technique is ill, but you're still wrong.

By the way, I was talking about freestyling capability, which you seem to know very little about despite trying to argue about Scribble Jam.

Feckin' herb. Stop trying to take up space and oxygen.

FiRON
07-30-2004, 04:23 PM
battling wise i guess it would come down to who ever gets the crowd hyped up more, em has more charisma, and unless he does that 8 mile bull then it would be close i never seen bis in a battle but i know he would come hard and mean as hell.

by the way i downloaded this so called battle, i think it was a dj mix of two verses em vs bis
is this real, all i remember is em's verse says sumthing like,
"my first words were Bleep bleep and curse curse?"
it was wack and didnt seem like a battle but maybe u guys heard of it

Apollyon
07-31-2004, 02:59 AM
^ I've heard it. It's fake as hell.

Majesty
07-31-2004, 03:03 PM
battling wise i guess it would come down to who ever gets the crowd hyped up more, em has more charisma, and unless he does that 8 mile bull then it would be close i never seen bis in a battle but i know he would come hard and mean as hell.

by the way i downloaded this so called battle, i think it was a dj mix of two verses em vs bis
is this real, all i remember is em's verse says sumthing like,
"my first words were Bleep bleep and curse curse?"
it was wack and didnt seem like a battle but maybe u guys heard of it

and that wasn't a battle, it was a mixed freestyle, a DJ just put their voices on the same track.. but check it tho..
8 mile is fake.. Eminem never won, he lost in the Scibble Jam against Juice and lost in the Rap Olympics.. Plus Em made a direct diss to Canibus called Canibitch.. This was an all time low for Eminem, as this song was corney as hell, and sucked major ass... Canibus is jus all around better than Em.. only lonley white boys, who argue on hip hop sites beg to differ..

Majesty
07-31-2004, 03:04 PM
and Kae, I wasn't talking about you..

Apollyon
07-31-2004, 04:06 PM
You must be joking. Can-i-bitch was funny, except to Canibus dickriders, possibly...

Majesty
07-31-2004, 09:26 PM
You are childish^.. It was funny to your corny ass, you have no wit.. Canibus Kicks ass, Eminem licks ass... Dre's ass to be specific..
nuff said, end of story, now fuck off... I don't feel like Bickering with 16 year old white boys, over the internet about Hip Hop.. Get a fuckin life..

Canibus is a whole lot fuckin better than Eminem's Corney Ass to me.. to ME..
now seriously, no one cares about your 1 out of billions, baseless, and Insignificant Opinion.. I'm not coming back to this thread either, argue alone..


Peace...

Apollyon
07-31-2004, 11:24 PM
You are childish^.. It was funny to your corny ass, you have no wit.. Canibus Kicks ass, Eminem licks ass... Dre's ass to be specific..
Irony is a bitch, isn't it? :(

FiRON
08-01-2004, 07:07 PM
"i think that mary-kate olsen weighed more when she was on full-house..?"


discuss!

Shaydee-OutLaw
08-08-2004, 08:59 PM
man, I like Em' for his crazyness, and how he steps up to other artsists, and actually could take em on but I dont know, if he'd win, but anyways, I hate to say this but, Cannabis is better than Em. I kinda listened to em in a track supposely called a 12 min. freestyle with Em, Bis, and the 5-9" in the end, (I hope you know what I'm talkin bout') and Em's verses werent as good, until the end of the freestyle and Bis was lettin lose all those crazy verses all the time until the freestyle ended and that's when Royce came in.........
...........damn, that's not easy to say,
Em's excellent, Bis is flawless,
any more disses by eachother? Hit us up, this interestin'!

LloydBankz
08-14-2004, 03:44 AM
canbus is some wack ass bitch who should just shut his fukin mouth, he aint makin it no where, and em beat his ass down so bad, that bitch got to shut the fuck up, end of discusion.

Dras
08-14-2004, 06:47 PM
^^Canibus isnt wack :( ....he just isnt skilled in the battle area.

Freestyle wise and poetic wise he is good

LloydBankz
08-14-2004, 07:34 PM
I just don't like his music, not cuz i like eminem either, i always give somone a chance, i still like budden and he is beefin wit G-unit, i don't care i still think he is good, i just don't like him.

s0Lstar18
08-16-2004, 03:22 AM
Majesty I agree with you,these Fuckin' white boys have no life and no nothing of hip hop, they only know From the Slim Shady era and on they know nothing of Epmd, Rakim, Kool Mo Dee, etc; (don't look on your Comp either and name a song to try to seem smart) they're fucking purps they use to dress and aborcrombie & Fitch and American Eagle...now they seen a white boy that DOES have alittle talent and dresses in " Hip hop or rap clothing" and they copy now white rappers and "soul singers seem to be poppin up everywhere they're just fuckin thieves trying to steal the culture from us(EXCEPT THE WHITE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON HIP HOP B4 THE EM DAYS,AND DON'T SAY YOU WERE CUZ I'VE JUST SAID THIS BUT...I DO HAVE RESPECT FOR YA'LL) it's the theives theme ....get off em's dick, get intellectual and listen to some CanIbus cuz fact is if more rappers went to college and got a Phd they'd sound alot more intelligent too(Kanye for ex. although he dropped out..still sounds intelligent and has a good vocab) AND PLEASE LET'S STOP WITH THE CORNY ASS CANABITCH CUZ I COULD BE ALITTLE NUT HUGGER AND SAY FEMINEM OR SLIM LADY OR SLIM GAYDY
,but here let's compare lyrics and we'll see whos the best (Em knows Bis is better that's why he wants Bis to come at him cuz of the challenge,but Bis don't take his lame ass serious, and the only battle experience he has during these Dre days has been against- Benzino, Ja Rule, Britney Spears,NSYNC among other boy bands,and Everlast,I would say Nelly but he punked out of that one altough he would've won it wouldn't have been good for his Black and Hispanic listeners ...but those r fucking cake walks no one real Mc on that list cuz he would fuckin get slayed like he did when he battled Mc Juice (Tweece, oh I mean Twice...hehe)a Real Mc and CanIbus a Real Mc ,although it isn't over yet Em will get Slayed when it's over.


If there ain't shit for me to feed off, I'm see-saw battlin (1)
But there's way too much at stake For me to be fake /
There's too much on my plate, I done came way /
Too far in this game to turn and walk away /
And not say what I got to say (2)
What the fuck you take me for, a joke? You smoking crack? (3)
.........
I'll get up 'fore I get down, Run myself in the ground /
'Fore I put some wack shit out (4) ...
.......
Ain't gon' do nothin but piss me off
Lid to the can of whip-ass, Just twist me off (5)
See me leap out, Pull a piece out
Fuck shooting, I'm just trying to knock his teeth out (6)
Fuck with me now bitch, let's see you freestyle (7)
Talk is cheap /
Motherfucker if you really feeling froggish leap (8)
Yo Slim, you gonna let him get away with that?
He tried to play you, you can't let him skate with that, (9)
Man I hate this crap
This ain't rap, This is crazy the way we act (10)
....I know people who have written newspapers on me,
some are greatful to me, others be hatin on me
You wanna bet I aint the illest? What you tradin' wit G?
.....
I think its just time to be grateful
For every mc that came through and spit tapes full of data for you
Every album before this, I made it for you
Nowadays the truth is I got nothing to prove
But I heard him call my name a couple of times
In a couple of his rhymes and I thought about it a couple times
Is he looking for a respones or is he just being a jerk?
Or am I just to involved in my work?
I thought to myself, Why he wrote my name in his verse?
When he said I wasn’t ill, he just made things worse.
That’s when I recognized what Stan was worth
The only man on earth that could reverse the Cool J curse
I served him, like a nigga without purpose
Constantly taking rip the jacker back and forth to my therapist
I wasn’t prepared for this
People wanting to embarrass bis for reasons that aren’t quite apparent to me yet
What? I cant get signed, cause I got mad with a vet.
How could a couple of verses have so much anger in em
Don’t you know the difference between rip the jacker and bis?
Go use the Pythagoras theory and go do the math on this
Add up every multi-syllable paragraph
that ive been able to average since January 96
And tell me when u find it you dick ridin bitch
Im so sick of you always being skeptical always running behind my shit
tell me the truth, you really think its time that I quit?
You think maybe I could wholesale these rhymes that I spit?
I guess the nicest emcees got tired of Bis,
and lied to theyselves like they never relied on Bis
The real rock of the game, people have climbed on Bis,
rhyme mo' sick then anybody out your clique
Wit thousands of niggas devout for that shit
I got a couple of bitches too, I make em bow to the dick
The album is sick, some Hollywood biography shit,
the difference between ships in bottles, and bottles in ships
Fuckin wit Rip they find your fossils at the bottoms of cliffs
Stick 6 mics up your ass even though I doubt it will fit
....
'I'll battle you on the net, I'll battle you in the flesh
y'all niggas know the rest, dont fuck with bis"


Eminem
SONG: Square Dance
ALBUM: The Eminem Show
All these people I had to leave in limbo
I'm back now, I've come to release this info
I'll be brief and let me just keep shit simple
Canibitch don't want no beef with Slim
Nooooooo! Not even on my radar
So won't you please jump off my dick, lay off and stay off
.....
Yeah you laugh till your motherfuckin ass gets drafted
....
On your knees, got you under siege
Somebody you would give a lung to be
Hun-ga-ry, like a fuckin younger me
Fuck the fee, I can get you jumped for free
Yeah buddy, laugh it's funny, I have the money
to have you killed by somebody who has nothing






Canibus
SONG: Curriculum 101
ALBUM: Mic Club - The Curriculum
Count how many mics I smoked, minus the G.O.A.T.
Bus is dope, my battlin' average higher than most,
When I'm on the mic, I release fire from throat,
If you disagree please do it quietly folks,
Anybody better than Bis must be a hoax,
Black man? NOPE, What about the Great White Hope?
What? Man you must be sniffin' great white coke,
Don't you know that's like Gary Coleman fightin' the Hulk?
And still not even quite that close,
a great white bitin' ya' rubber dingy boat 50 miles out from the coast,
What the phuk is the Mathers wit' you?
I'll beat you black and blue, then I'll probably get a tat of you too,
Better yet I'll put a tattoo of me on you,
a 10 by 10 "C" logo neon blue,
The most theatrical MC battle of all time,
I rip jackers like you - you know the call sign,
The killer cobra that'll hover over Jehova,
in a motorized autogiro with sycamore rotors,
Hydrogen peroxide gaseous vapors,
Technically these words shouldn't even rhyme off paper,
In theory for every soul that can hear me I'ma blaze'em,
in practical practice my style’s even greater,
Can't you see what I'm spittin'? Can't you hear the difference?
Compared to me you're energetically inefficient,
You need 10 times the enzymes to process one of my rhymes,
you gotta' rewind every one of my lines,
Do you know how to paraphrase?
Can you even understand what the narrator is trynna' say?


Eminem
SONG: Say My Name
ALBUM: Man vs. Machine (Xzibit's LP)
I'd have my motherfuckin ass kicked by Moby
if I let some bitch in the Can like 'Bis cop over me
to do war, and try to bring my crew back down
I'll never stoop, to that level, to do that now


Canibus
SONG: Dr. C. Phd
ALBUM: Mic Club - The Curriculum
Rapid fire you better run for the pacifier
tie you up and drown you in a saliva quagmire,
Till your oxygen expires and ya' lungs dry up,
cause you said Bis ain't dope - you a damn liar,
.......
let's roll the dices, 'll break you like young Tyson
give me the mic man, I don't need no hype man
put a thousand on me, put one on him
i tear off his limbs, throw him in, and tell him to swim
yo I soak that shit and coat that shit in soy sauce
tell the FCC boss, turn that noise off
call Detroit's Mafia Boss
tell him yo, I got a job for you, I want you to bust his balls
...
yo, you wonder where I am right now
I'm probably somewhere on the microphone fucking it up
....
**what the fuck you on the website for you creep?
punching the keys, remember that sound
that's exactly what it sounds like when i'm punching your teeth **
kick a rap, bitch, if you've got the gumption to speak
stand next to me, i might put a lump in your meat
diss you and your man, double the beef
to tell you the truth, I thought your rebuttal was weak
round the outside, blah, blah, etcetra, etcetra
the body of my literature is bigger than South America
nigga look, this is all I gots to say
suck my P-H-D-I-C-K

In no perticular order just different gettin at each other, but CanIbus was just better period, oh and shout out to GodSon for the Rhymes,but for the full battle just go to Canibus and Eminem disses and go to the first page.
If you on Godson 101 who you think got this one???










....






END OF STORY - " DING,DING,DING!!!" WINNER BY 2nd Round KO Germine " Can-I-Bus Williams.

P.S. Whoever is the mark that said that Canibus isn't as good in the battle area read the lyrics cuz,you been listening to someone else (I think it was Em)
but I do agree Freestyle wise,poeticly and even freestyle battle wise simply the best.

Much Respect

s0Lstar18
08-16-2004, 03:24 AM
[QUOTE=s0Lstar18]Majesty I agree with you,these Fuckin' white boys have no life and no nothing of hip hop, they only know From the Slim Shady era and on they know nothing of Epmd, Rakim, Kool Mo Dee, etc; (don't look on your Comp either and name a song to try to seem smart) they're fucking purps they use to dress in aborcrombie & Fitch and American Eagle...now they seen a white boy that DOES have alittle talent and dresses in " Hip hop or rap clothing" and they copy now white rappers and "soul singers seem to be poppin up everywhere they're just fuckin thieves trying to steal the culture from us(EXCEPT THE WHITE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON HIP HOP B4 THE EM DAYS,AND DON'T SAY YOU WERE CUZ I'VE JUST SAID THIS BUT...I DO HAVE RESPECT FOR YA'LL) it's the theives theme ....get off em's dick, get intellectual and listen to some CanIbus cuz fact is if more rappers went to college and got a Phd they'd sound alot more intelligent too(Kanye for ex. although he dropped out..still sounds intelligent and has a good vocab) AND PLEASE LET'S STOP WITH THE CORNY ASS CANABITCH CUZ I COULD BE ALITTLE NUT HUGGER AND SAY FEMINEM OR SLIM LADY OR SLIM GAYDY
,but here let's compare lyrics and we'll see whos the best (Em knows Bis is better that's why he wants Bis to come at him cuz of the challenge,but Bis don't take his lame ass serious, and the only battle experience he has during these Dre days has been against- Benzino, Ja Rule, Britney Spears,NSYNC among other boy bands,and Everlast,I would say Nelly but he punked out of that one altough he would've won it wouldn't have been good for his Black and Hispanic listeners ...but those r fucking cake walks no one real Mc on that list cuz he would fuckin get slayed like he did when he battled Mc Juice (Tweece, oh I mean Twice...hehe)a Real Mc and CanIbus a Real Mc ,although it isn't over yet Em will get Slayed when it's over.


If there ain't shit for me to feed off, I'm see-saw battlin (1)
But there's way too much at stake For me to be fake /
There's too much on my plate, I done came way /
Too far in this game to turn and walk away /
And not say what I got to say (2)
What the fuck you take me for, a joke? You smoking crack? (3)
.........
I'll get up 'fore I get down, Run myself in the ground /
'Fore I put some wack shit out (4) ...
.......
Ain't gon' do nothin but piss me off
Lid to the can of whip-ass, Just twist me off (5)
See me leap out, Pull a piece out
Fuck shooting, I'm just trying to knock his teeth out (6)
Fuck with me now bitch, let's see you freestyle (7)
Talk is cheap /
Motherfucker if you really feeling froggish leap (8)
Yo Slim, you gonna let him get away with that?
He tried to play you, you can't let him skate with that, (9)
Man I hate this crap
This ain't rap, This is crazy the way we act (10)
....I know people who have written newspapers on me,
some are greatful to me, others be hatin on me
You wanna bet I aint the illest? What you tradin' wit G?
.....
I think its just time to be grateful
For every mc that came through and spit tapes full of data for you
Every album before this, I made it for you
Nowadays the truth is I got nothing to prove
But I heard him call my name a couple of times
In a couple of his rhymes and I thought about it a couple times
Is he looking for a respones or is he just being a jerk?
Or am I just to involved in my work?
I thought to myself, Why he wrote my name in his verse?
When he said I wasn’t ill, he just made things worse.
That’s when I recognized what Stan was worth
The only man on earth that could reverse the Cool J curse
I served him, like a nigga without purpose
Constantly taking rip the jacker back and forth to my therapist
I wasn’t prepared for this
People wanting to embarrass bis for reasons that aren’t quite apparent to me yet
What? I cant get signed, cause I got mad with a vet.
How could a couple of verses have so much anger in em
Don’t you know the difference between rip the jacker and bis?
Go use the Pythagoras theory and go do the math on this
Add up every multi-syllable paragraph
that ive been able to average since January 96
And tell me when u find it you dick ridin bitch
Im so sick of you always being skeptical always running behind my shit
tell me the truth, you really think its time that I quit?
You think maybe I could wholesale these rhymes that I spit?
I guess the nicest emcees got tired of Bis,
and lied to theyselves like they never relied on Bis
The real rock of the game, people have climbed on Bis,
rhyme mo' sick then anybody out your clique
Wit thousands of niggas devout for that shit
I got a couple of bitches too, I make em bow to the dick
The album is sick, some Hollywood biography shit,
the difference between ships in bottles, and bottles in ships
Fuckin wit Rip they find your fossils at the bottoms of cliffs
Stick 6 mics up your ass even though I doubt it will fit
....
'I'll battle you on the net, I'll battle you in the flesh
y'all niggas know the rest, dont fuck with bis"


Eminem
SONG: Square Dance
ALBUM: The Eminem Show
All these people I had to leave in limbo
I'm back now, I've come to release this info
I'll be brief and let me just keep shit simple
Canibitch don't want no beef with Slim
Nooooooo! Not even on my radar
So won't you please jump off my dick, lay off and stay off
.....
Yeah you laugh till your motherfuckin ass gets drafted
....
On your knees, got you under siege
Somebody you would give a lung to be
Hun-ga-ry, like a fuckin younger me
Fuck the fee, I can get you jumped for free
Yeah buddy, laugh it's funny, I have the money
to have you killed by somebody who has nothing






Canibus
SONG: Curriculum 101
ALBUM: Mic Club - The Curriculum
Count how many mics I smoked, minus the G.O.A.T.
Bus is dope, my battlin' average higher than most,
When I'm on the mic, I release fire from throat,
If you disagree please do it quietly folks,
Anybody better than Bis must be a hoax,
Black man? NOPE, What about the Great White Hope?
What? Man you must be sniffin' great white coke,
Don't you know that's like Gary Coleman fightin' the Hulk?
And still not even quite that close,
a great white bitin' ya' rubber dingy boat 50 miles out from the coast,
What the phuk is the Mathers wit' you?
I'll beat you black and blue, then I'll probably get a tat of you too,
Better yet I'll put a tattoo of me on you,
a 10 by 10 "C" logo neon blue,
The most theatrical MC battle of all time,
I rip jackers like you - you know the call sign,
The killer cobra that'll hover over Jehova,
in a motorized autogiro with sycamore rotors,
Hydrogen peroxide gaseous vapors,
Technically these words shouldn't even rhyme off paper,
In theory for every soul that can hear me I'ma blaze'em,
in practical practice my style’s even greater,
Can't you see what I'm spittin'? Can't you hear the difference?
Compared to me you're energetically inefficient,
You need 10 times the enzymes to process one of my rhymes,
you gotta' rewind every one of my lines,
Do you know how to paraphrase?
Can you even understand what the narrator is trynna' say?


Eminem
SONG: Say My Name
ALBUM: Man vs. Machine (Xzibit's LP)
I'd have my motherfuckin ass kicked by Moby
if I let some bitch in the Can like 'Bis cop over me
to do war, and try to bring my crew back down
I'll never stoop, to that level, to do that now


Canibus
SONG: Dr. C. Phd
ALBUM: Mic Club - The Curriculum
Rapid fire you better run for the pacifier
tie you up and drown you in a saliva quagmire,
Till your oxygen expires and ya' lungs dry up,
cause you said Bis ain't dope - you a damn liar,
.......
let's roll the dices, 'll break you like young Tyson
give me the mic man, I don't need no hype man
put a thousand on me, put one on him
i tear off his limbs, throw him in, and tell him to swim
yo I soak that shit and coat that shit in soy sauce
tell the FCC boss, turn that noise off
call Detroit's Mafia Boss
tell him yo, I got a <A TITLE="Click for more information about job" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||job|AA1VDw">job</A> for you, I want you to bust his balls
...
yo, you wonder where I am right now
I'm probably somewhere on the microphone fucking it up
....
**what the fuck you on the website for you creep?
punching the keys, remember that sound
that's exactly what it sounds like when i'm punching your teeth **
kick a rap, bitch, if you've got the gumption to speak
stand next to me, i might put a lump in your meat
diss you and your man, double the beef
to tell you the truth, I thought your rebuttal was weak
round the outside, blah, blah, etcetra, etcetra
the body of my literature is bigger than South America
nigga look, this is all I gots to say
suck my P-H-D-I-C-K

In no perticular order just different gettin at each other, but CanIbus was just better period, oh and shout out to GodSon for the Rhymes,but for the full battle just go to Canibus and Eminem disses and go to the first page.
If you on Godson 101 who you think got this one???










....






END OF STORY - " DING,DING,DING!!!" WINNER BY 2nd Round KO Germine " Can-I-Bus Williams.

P.S. Whoever is the mark that said that Canibus isn't as good in the battle area read the lyrics cuz,you been listening to someone else (I think it was Em)
but I do agree Freestyle wise,poeticly and even freestyle battle wise simply the best.

Much Respect :D

LloydBankz
08-16-2004, 03:30 AM
If canibitch is so fuckin good right why aint he ever on the top 10, y i never see his fake ass bitch on any tv channels? Huh? yea plz tell me, this bitch sucks, if he was anything he least be on a channel, OH and i don't see his cd on store shelfs, put i still see ems albums, his old shit in the greatest rap section, so plz tell us all when this bitch was on Mtv, MTV, BET tell us all and stop sayin itz cuz ur white shut the fuck up u don't know shit.

s0Lstar18
08-16-2004, 06:05 AM
What does top 10 have anything to do with this???Em got with Dre Bis got with clef and things may have been different if the situition were switched but you getting heated only cuz you Em will get slayed ,you a fuckin Stan face it,and trust if Bis signs to the Roc you'll be huggin dem nutz ,ain't gonna even argue with a young minded boy who dont know shit about hip hop jedi mind tricks(not the) group are for the weak minded stop being weak minded and fallin for the hype and bubble gum "sales" I'm talkin culture,the battle and learn it b4 you talk cuz obviously you don't shit about hip hop.

s0Lstar18
08-16-2004, 06:14 AM
Ya dumbass probably didn't even read lyrics you was automatically glued to Em's Dick you thought it was won when it wasn't and another smart-ass when has Joe buddens been top 10?he's good,he slayed 50 and G-unit but he doesn't sale?um so Wtf you just too young or bias to understand hip hop and i'll tell even Kay Slay said on 106th and park that canibus is the best lyricist(freestyle,freestyle battle and song wise)ever and alot of people don't know about it cuz i'm pretty sure that if he was with dre he would get the pub Em does NutHugger

LloydBankz
08-16-2004, 03:25 PM
First of all fuck u, i aint no fuckin dickrider to eminem fuckin idiot, 2. canibus is a faggot plain out, i don't see this bitch cd anywhere in a fuckin store. I never seen hsi faggot ass on TV i never even seen a goddamn video by this fag, and u know wat i don't know about hip hop as much as u do, i don't give a fuck nigga is still wack, and the last thing when the fuck did i say bud was top 10 fuckin retart, i said i like him, but i also like G-unit bbut they where beefin but buddin is still kool and i still like g-unit, so read before u write shit u fuckin retarted piece of stupid shit.

Tw!stEd
08-16-2004, 03:47 PM
First of all fuck u, i aint no fuckin dickrider to eminem fuckin idiot, 2. canibus is a faggot plain out, i don't see this bitch cd anywhere in a fuckin store. I never seen hsi faggot ass on TV i never even seen a goddamn video by this fag, and u know wat i don't know about hip hop as much as u do, i don't give a fuck nigga is still wack, and the last thing when the fuck did i say bud was top 10 fuckin retart, i said i like him, but i also like G-unit bbut they where beefin but buddin is still kool and i still like g-unit, so read before u write shit u fuckin retarted piece of stupid shit.

The top 10 has fuck all to do with rap. A few years ago, maybe it would of held some sway(Wu-tang, Tupac, Biggie, Dre), but now with G-unit, 50 cent, and other shit, it has no meaning. BET isn't broadcast in my country, ut I have heard a few battles, and they were good. And only really commercial rappers can afford to make videos, for mtv.
I thinnk that Eminem has sonned Cannibus in parts, and Cannibus has occassionaly owned Eminem. I think that Eminem is the better Emcee, though Cannibus is great at disses (even though Nail in the coffin is my fav diss tune ever). I don't really think eother of them came out on top.

LloydBankz
08-16-2004, 04:17 PM
Canibitch just can't make a song i never heard good song by him, besides his freestyle he got nothin, and if u don't know Freestyle can't get u ever where in life!

s0Lstar18
08-16-2004, 05:07 PM
Like I said you don't know shit so get the albums and find out just cuz they're not "top 10" singles don't mean they're not good song...there's no point in arguing with a stan who has an Em pic on his file thing, another thing is you must go to to some imaginary eminem cd store where they only sell their shit cuz last time i checked Canibus is under the HIP HOP not RAP section in Sam Goody,FYI among other stores Nuthuggin' ass white boy.

LloydBankz
08-16-2004, 05:16 PM
fuck u u fuckin stupid ass nigga, u don't even kno wwat the fuck i am and u callin me a white boy, stupid ass, listen u fuckin loser, canibus can suck my fuckin dick, the nigga sucks ass, he does and always will, so i think u should shut the fuck up canibitch fuckin dickriding bitch.

Majesty
08-16-2004, 08:55 PM
^Bis is the illest alive, fuck what you say..

LloydBankz
08-16-2004, 09:20 PM
Maybe freestyle but if u havent notice freestyle don't get u anywhere.

Majesty
08-17-2004, 03:02 PM
Maybe at writing, but writing gets you nowhere either, it's producing, which he doesn't have good yet.. he is the illest, fuck you guys opinion if you don't agree.. besides, you're in a Canibus forum..

LloydBankz
08-17-2004, 04:34 PM
Ok i know wat u mean.

Shaydee-OutLaw
08-17-2004, 11:23 PM
What the fuck?!?
who Da fuck said Canabis aint got skill, aint one of the greatest mc's, what the fuck?
WHAT THE FUCK, IS YOU STUPID!!!!!!!!

Shaydee-OutLaw
08-17-2004, 11:27 PM
man, you on some stupis shit, you got's to hear some of the underground'z, and stop actin up on peoples. you actin like some young ass kid, who need to get smacked......
listen to some bis shit and then talk yo shit, he has beat Em.....and sayin this doesnt make me not bein an Em fan, coz I am, and well, it's tru. you know?

LloydBankz
08-18-2004, 02:36 AM
I aint even goin say shit cuz i aint beefin wit anyone no more.

Majesty
08-18-2004, 11:35 AM
It ain't even a beef, it's just that people disagree sometimes..

kRAZiSkillz
08-31-2004, 04:43 PM
MEANING BEHIND DISS: make me look like an asshole just cause you think I ghost wrote LL's diss, i'll even the score and embarrass you and make you look like an ass by beating you up on the Jerry Springer Show..


r u fuckin stupid? how in the fuck would eminem have wrote a ghostrap for some one of ll's stature when this cd was being wrote? before this cd CAME OUT eminem was a no one u fuckin moron.

D^Coy
09-03-2004, 10:51 PM
Lol...some of you canibus dick riders look at him like you hate eminem. And then you hear his shit like "that's hot cause he said somethin smart". Get real. I could be as hardcore as the Black Panthers and still prove that eminem is better than canibus in NUMEROUS ways.

First off, s0Lstar18 pulls out random lyrics from the Eminem Show. Lol...this kid probably hasn't even heard his Infinte album. You should probably take your happy ding-dinging can-i-bitch ridin ass and listen to a few songs on that album.

Lets think of some other shit. Eminem has basically talked about everything. Canibus on the other hand always talks about how he's better than someone or what he's going to do.

"Yeah...he's better...cause he's cannibus...and he flows".

Now that's plain ignorance, because that's what you all are saying. I bet you're the type of person that hates someone but copies their style. You probably have a couple of Em's albums on your shelf. You probably even have a few mp3s of eminem. Face the facts. Eminem has topped him in a lot of ways, and canibus has been going down ever since he decided to diss eminem over stupid shit.

Em knows Bis is better that's why he wants Bis to come at him cuz of the challenge,but Bis don't take his lame ass serious, and the only battle experience he has during these Dre days

What are you? His dick?! All you're really saying is what YOU'RE saying. And then you've got the never to throw a racial card in the battle like you know white people. I bet you there's a white person that acts just like you....

And s0Lstar18, if anyone is glued on em's dick, it would be you trying to get off and getting off. We all know you can't stand his ass so you work your way to the front like a kid in a lunch line. Get it through your head instead of hearing shit, stopping, and assuming shit like you're part of the Censorship Community. You've got to be the most ignorant racial person i've ever seen on the internet. All you bitch about is white boy this and white boy that like they've fucked up hip hop "and dresses in Hip hop or rap clothing". Are you that stupid?! Tell me what hip hop clothes are. I bet you can't. No...i know you can't. Infact, you probably don't even know the difference between hip hop and rock rap (lyrical wise). Oh, and didn't canibus start this whole thing? He started it, said a few things, and walks away never to be seen for a while like DMX at the VMAs. Eminem has said shit that has rocked the country. Canibus has said that has only rocked his balls, or what ever he's got down there. And then you guys look up to him like he's the illest, even though he raps like a combination of every other rapper. What about Tech N9ne? Eyedea? Slug? And other underground MC's? I thought they were the illest?! You all said it.

Hell....i bet 90% of the people reading this right now have atleast 2 of Em's albums.

Maybe this shit will get stuck in your head.

LloydBankz
09-03-2004, 11:04 PM
well i only have one bought cd and 2 burned, but besidez that i agree wit u 100%, eminem is one of the best today, and cabibus, well he suckz if u ask me in so many wayz but hell thatz wat i think, lataa

.Inphini