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J. Cyrus 2.0
10-07-2006, 12:02 PM
Well...I can't do much help fixing online...buuttt...

I build custom desktop systems at very good prices. I only accept Paypal or money orders however...I'll build pretty much anything, starting price around $400 + cost of shipping to you. My website is under construction so I won't bother linking it yet.

LED lights, custom cooling options...outstanding custom selection, will give a final quote and parts list upon request...choose any case you want...


PM me or email me at jaycepcs@gmail.com

Nico
10-08-2006, 04:26 PM
Spam.

J. Cyrus 2.0
10-08-2006, 09:59 PM
Spam shmam. I've been here way longer than you, and this is easier than IMing a million ppl about it.

Don't be a loser :(

J. Cyrus 2.0
10-08-2006, 10:00 PM
You may know me as ORCUSANTE.

sMh.

Nico
10-08-2006, 10:25 PM
Lol, I know who you are. It's still spam. :(

D^Coy
10-08-2006, 10:28 PM
Yeup. Spam.

And why $400? I built one of my computers for only $317, and that includes a motherboard with cpu.

Smh...scaming people :mad:

J. Cyrus 2.0
10-08-2006, 10:31 PM
^it's called a business and making a profit.

No I'm the computer fairy I go around building computers with my time and effort and make absolutely zero profit...and yeah I could charge less than 4 large and build a 2 generations ago system but I only sell shit I believe in performance wise...

And no shit it includes motherboard and cpu...it wouldn't function without those components...wtf...


...RWs has gotten so gay...I liked it back when ppl like you weren't here =))

J. Cyrus 2.0
10-08-2006, 10:37 PM
D^Coy build Pentium systems with 266MHz cpus and 64 MB of ram pass it on

And he offers state of the art Socket A with a whopping 256 MB of ram that can even play solitaire at resolutions above 800x600

J. Cyrus 2.0
10-08-2006, 10:39 PM
*plays minesweeper*

D^Coy
10-08-2006, 11:46 PM
...RWs has gotten so gay...I liked it back when ppl like you weren't hereThat's funny, because the majority of the people here enjoyed it when you weren't here. Hell, no one liked you when you were here =/.

and yeah I could charge less than 4 large and build a 2 generations ago system but I only sell shit I believe in performance wise...If you were smart, then you'd realize $400, let alone $600, won't get you good performance :(. You can buy a computer at a wal-mart and still won't get full speed.

SLI graphics (@ $100 each) + *dual core motherboard w/ socket 939 processor (2.4 or better, since the majority of the programs being created today need at least 2.0 ghz, which totals up to atleast $250) + a good soundcard (onboards aren't shit, so X-Fi is the ONLY way to go, $129-399) + decent tower (at least $60) + 2 512 ram sticks (a decent pair could cost you $150) = a good performance computer. Now, this doesn't include extra cooling fans, liquid coolers, a BETTER power supply, and lights.

*anything lower than a 939 will soon be non-upgradeable.

Now ask yourself...will someone actually pay someone who had trouble installing windows xp???

Orc combines socket 7 motherboards with 100ghz of memory. He can't add any ram sticks because the motherboard doesn't have any supporting types anymore. But if you act now, he'll even throw in Windows ME, which includes preinstalled versions of nothing. Also, you're basically fucked if you can't find a special tower for the board, so your best bet is to find some plywood and mail it to him. Monitor is not needed because none will work.

J. Cyrus 2.0
10-09-2006, 12:07 AM
That's funny, because the majority of the people here enjoyed it when you weren't here. Hell, no one liked you when you were here =/.
^Aren't you the same guy who used to sweat Queeny? G-hyp or some shit? LoL @ you thinkin' I care about bein' "liked" on the internet...it's hardly a reflection of one's true self.

If you were smart,
^I am smart.

then you'd realize $400, let alone $600, won't get you good performance :(. You can buy a computer at a wal-mart and still won't get full speed.
^I guess the term "good" is entirely in the eye of the beholder. I'm running on old P3 with 256 MB of RAM w/2 IDE HDs (Windows installed on a small 6GB and the rest of the data on a 20GB Western Digital) with good software tweaks and the Intel Application Accelerator it's VERY snappy and I never get lag even with fairly intensive multitasking. Granted, I'm not gonna be running Dreamweaver or encoding DVDs but "good" performance is entirely relative. Also, I just bought a D945G Intel Mobo with 4 SATA 2 headers (3.0 Gb/s), two Firewire, four USB retailin' for well over $100 for $60 on eBay to build a system for myself. Deals can be had.

SLI graphics (@ $100 each)
^SLi will be made almost obselete (and at the very least overly inefficient) by dual GPU video cards coming out in the near future. SLI can only run in 8x most of the time and consumes too much power. Even now you can get one $200+ video card and get better performance than two inferior cards in SLI.

+ *dual core motherboard w/ socket 939 processor (2.4 or better, since the majority of the programs being created today need at least 2.0 ghz, which totals up to atleast $250) + a good soundcard (onboards aren't shit, so X-Fi is the ONLY way to go, $129-399) + decent tower (at least $60) + 2 512 ram sticks (a decent pair could cost you $150) = a good performance computer. Now, this doesn't include extra cooling fans, liquid coolers, a BETTER power supply, and lights.
^Sounds like you buy into the "I have no life" PC enthusiast hype a little too much. Nice little spin you put on your views...go to newegg.com and do some price research...There are some excellent products for well below what you state here...

Now ask yourself...will someone actually pay someone who had trouble installing windows xp???
^Everyone runs into issues on occasion. Besides, there was much about that situation I didn't divulge here. I use illegal copies of Windows with a validation bypass. For a while I had no means to create a bootable XP Install CD...then, I got a burner for my P3 setup.

Orc combines socket 7 motherboards with 100ghz of memory. He can't add any ram sticks because the motherboard doesn't have any supporting types anymore. But if you act now, he'll even throw in Windows ME, which includes preinstalled versions of nothing. Also, you're basically fucked if you can't find a special tower for the board, so your best bet is to find some plywood and mail it to him. Monitor is not needed because none will work.
^You're not as funny as me. And also not as knowledgeable on hardware as you purport.

D^Coy
10-09-2006, 12:44 AM
^Aren't you the same guy who used to sweat Queeny? G-hyp or some shit? LoL @ you thinkin' I care about bein' "liked" on the internet...it's hardly a reflection of one's true self.Sweat her?! LMFAO...ask her. She knows DAMN WELL i joke with her. You're the one that stayed on yahoo with her from when she popped the first X to when she turned off her webcam.

^SLi will be made almost obselete (and at the very least overly inefficient) by dual GPU video cards coming out in the near future. SLI can only run in 8x most of the time and consumes too much power. Even now you can get one $200+ video card and get better performance than two inferior cards in SLI.That "one card" can only last about a year before you realize it's time to replace it, considering software and monitors are constantly being updated. Unlike those cards, SLI cards tend to last a lot longer.

^Sounds like you buy into the "I have no life" PC enthusiast hype a little too much. Nice little spin you put on your views...go to newegg.com and do some price research...There are some excellent products for well below what you state here...I shop at newegg.com :eek:. Of course their are some smaller prices, but with horrible performance levels! The only good use for those are usually for custom uses, such as putting a motherboard in your car to hold movies and mp3s. And to say i buy into the "I have no life" category is very cliche, even for someone who use to build computers without profit =/. I compose music and edit videos a lot, thus the reason why I need a lot of juice.

^You're not as funny as me. And also not as knowledgeable on hardware as you purport.Yes. I simply used your own tactical wording against you and you've concluded i'm not funnier than you /sarcasm. lmao @ this dude saying i'm not as funny as him like it really matters. Now you know you've ran into a true no-lifer when you use the same "funny tactics" COMPUTER TALK against them, and they claim it's funny, as if ANYONE is gonna care.

BOO HOO, ORC! BOO HOO!!!

J. Cyrus 2.0
10-09-2006, 12:53 AM
Only reply I have to you is that I wasn't sayin' the last quote you posted from me very seriously...lighten up son

~K!LLA 4tZ~
10-09-2006, 06:39 AM
Nice thread. I don't see the point in the arguing, a PC is only good if it meets your Needs.

I am running an AM2 Athlon X2 4600 at 2.8ghz on the M2N32 SLI platform. I also have the X-FI Elite Pro etc - basically, when I bought it all it cost me £1400, like $2000 +. Looking back, this was pretty silly, as I don't need all this power, and the PC is at least 3 years ahead of itself. It's fully upgradeable also. Now aren't I cool?

Also, the above platform on socket AM2 is only 1 - 2 % better performance than the 939s with similar components, and the 939 prices have fallen through the floor. So if you want a nice PC go 939. It's more than you'll need for years to come.

As for prices, what you'd expect to pay for a "decent PC" (not the latest dual cores etc - which are way ahead of the software):

Amd Venice 939 3000+ - £40
A8N SLi Motherboard - £50
Corsair Value Select - 1GB - £50
Geforce 6600 GT GFX - £60
160 GB + Hard drive - £30
Case/PSU - £25.00
Optical DVD - £10

Fans - 50p each. I think that's everything. That's like £265 - and that's good for at least another 2 - 3 years. You can overclock the core to 2.6Ghz on air. I think thats like 400 - 500 dollars. Plus you have to conisder that we get an additional 17.5% added on top, so it would be cheaper in the USA.

The above would play just about anything. (within reason and not an 40" plasma as most of you have... lol)

Although saying that, so would the OLD socket A's with a decent AGP card, on the A7N8X - E for example. Overclock and away you go! The boards £30, and the CPUS are like 20 - 30. Well under your budget. I have one sitting on my desk, and it works great, lol.

Maybe not use this thread to sell pcs, but to advise on realistic prices etc for those who don't know what they're looking to pay out? And for the "what's good". I mean X-Fi is the best, but saying shit like "8 channel HD on board audio sucks" is just rubbish. It's actually pretty damn good. Just not as good. More than enough for basic recording/uploading over the internet, and the Audigy Value range is excellent. You can't knock that either.

P.S. Paypal sucks. If you really are using paypal, check out Paypalsucks.com and paypalwars and other hate paypal sites. Don't use it if you like your money.

~K!LLA 4tZ~
10-09-2006, 06:41 AM
Double post...

J. Cyrus 2.0
10-09-2006, 10:48 AM
Nice post Killa. You elaborated on a few of the things I failed to.

I'm willing to offer price help/config suggestions here :cool:

Denz
10-09-2006, 11:22 AM
Killa, what's your pc specs ? That's some crazy-ass money.

Ike-One
10-09-2006, 11:25 PM
*scratches chin* Geek war.

Ezekiel
10-09-2006, 11:53 PM
I rekon..i need to lighten the mood








*Does tribal Aboriginal dance while sniffing paint*

~K!LLA 4tZ~
10-10-2006, 07:54 AM
lol, well I bought the PC in bits when I could afford it, and I swear the prices went down after I bought it! :( Especially the CPU.

I have, and I'm sadly proud of (I know... I know):

Thermaltake Tsunami Case
580 Watt Hiper Power Supply
Asus M2n32 Sli MOtherboard £135
AM2 4600+ X2 Around £200 but £350 When I bought it! Fuckers.
Only An ATI ICEQ X800XL - It was going into another machine, but I went broke. Still £100 though.
Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX (2x1GB) (£235)
2 74GB Western Digital Raptors in RAID :D £110 Each
DVDRW + Rom etc
And lots of Big fans and flashy lights.
Plus a floppy, lmao.

Oh, and the X-FI Elite Pro, although I dont even use it.

I was going to get 2 7900s in SLI also, but my driving lessons/tests etc cost me a lot more than I thought, which got to me a bit. So I settled for the ATI card, which is going to go in another PC eventually, to make way for my new ones! lol - Damn, I'm sad.

~K!LLA 4tZ~
10-10-2006, 07:55 AM
P.s. I did pass in the end. 3rd time lucky.

J. Cyrus
10-10-2006, 04:32 PM
Sell me the X-Fi! LoL!! I'ma start recording again and if I can get it cheaper than newegg than cool shit for me...

Here's what I'm building:

Pentium D 805 Smithfield @ 2.66 GHz (gonna OC it to match the RAM clock speed)
1 GB AmpX (2x512) DDR2 675 (gonna run @ 700MHz) @ 4-4-4-12 timings
160 GB Western Digital Caviar SATA 3.0 Hard Drive (16 MB Buffer, 7200 RPM)
Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

^Now that's power on a budget. I spent wayyyyyyyyy less than you...

*stops rubbing it in*

coolplaya
10-10-2006, 05:21 PM
Eww... You can't make a good performance computer with $400 bucks. Especially one with LED lights and special coolers.

ROSE.
10-10-2006, 05:33 PM
uhh well Jake is...soo...that's some bad logic right there :(

Denz
10-10-2006, 09:21 PM
Thermaltake Tsunami Case
580 Watt Hiper Power Supply
Asus M2n32 Sli MOtherboard £135
AM2 4600+ X2 Around £200 but £350 When I bought it! Fuckers.
Only An ATI ICEQ X800XL - It was going into another machine, but I went broke. Still £100 though.
Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX (2x1GB) (£235)
2 74GB Western Digital Raptors in RAID :D £110 Each
DVDRW + Rom etc
And lots of Big fans and flashy lights.
Plus a floppy, lmao.


Dude with that system you needa rock a DELL 24" monitor or you arn't doing it justice. Can't believe you copped the raptors, watch out for them failing and since your raided them, you best have backups or your fucked. I've heard many problems with them.

Think of the brightside about the spending. You spent as much as I did and your pc is easily double the speed of mine. :( :D

Sell me the X-Fi! LoL!! I'ma start recording again and if I can get it cheaper than newegg than cool shit for me...

um, you live in america, you cheap bastard ! {starts crying}

~K!LLA 4tZ~
10-11-2006, 02:59 PM
lmao...

And yes, Im going to get one soon... BUT there's another thing, which is kinda confusing me. You can get the high tech cards to give an output to an LCD Tv, or a Plasma... right?

24" Monitors are like £500+ but you can get the 30 inch LCD TVs for like £200 - 500. I know they aren't the best ones, but whats the difference? In this case, surely bigger is better? And the TV will perform better than the monitor?

Anyone got any thoughts?

P.S Raid 0 is FAST. Both Raptors got a 5 year warranty, so to be honest I don't care if they fail... it means new ones! lol

Denz
10-11-2006, 04:36 PM
lmao...

And yes, Im going to get one soon... BUT there's another thing, which is kinda confusing me. You can get the high tech cards to give an output to an LCD Tv, or a Plasma... right?

24" Monitors are like £500+ but you can get the 30 inch LCD TVs for like £200 - 500. I know they aren't the best ones, but whats the difference? In this case, surely bigger is better? And the TV will perform better than the monitor?

Anyone got any thoughts?

About the monitor. Monitors run at higher resolutions like the 24"er runs at 1920x1200 pixels. The LCD TVs run at 1300 x 750 (guess). The less pixels you have the more stretched screen will be ,and therefore using any sort of TV as a pc monitor is a "No No". In Denz terms, it will be "retard size" and unless you wear 2 inch thick glasses, don't do it.

This isn't much but if you want a £30 discount off the monitor, sign up at http://www.quidco.com and use their referral link :D. If you want to save even more money, you could try hustling the DELL telephone sales representative which isn't too hard :D.

~K!LLA 4tZ~
10-11-2006, 04:46 PM
lol, good answer.