I just started listening to some latin stuff. More recently, I just got the new Akwid album. It's titled E.S.L. My boss at universal gave it to me yesterday. So far, I think that the music has a good vibe. I really think people will appreciate the blend of music with traditional mexcian music and rap. Has anyone else heard anything from Akwid? If so, tel me what you guys think.

It's cool...

It depends.If ur talkin about immortal technique and big pun well that is good but reggaeton is shite.

Yea Kurious is good too, but I don't think that's what he's talking about. I think he means Spanish rap. But really, if it's not in English, why the hell would I want to listen to it?

Don't think he means Rap in English by Latin Artists. Triple XXX are ok, have only heard about 6 of their songs and well I can't understand Spanish but it's still pretty decent.

Ive got the cypress hill album in spanish.I got it in spain and it spanish sounds amazin over muggs beats.

I like Kid Frost's 'La Raza', but thats about it, don't really like Cypress all that much.

Yea Kurious is good too, but I don't think that's what he's talking about. I think he means Spanish rap. But really, if it's not in English, why the hell would I want to listen to it?

Ignorance rears its ugly head...

SMH...

I remember there was a huge argument about this before. Let's not get it started again.

latin rap sux,all kinds of rap SUXXX!

even 50 Cent?

I remember there was a huge argument about this before. Let's not get it started again.

Yes there was an argument about this, because people are to small minded, they think that they know what musicis, but they don't, because they think music is just about understanding the words....

If thats what you think then im afraid you have a lot to learn about music...

:cool:

yo surely latin rap is in spanish, not latin rappers spittin in english...latin rap to me is Tempo, Vico C, Tego Calderon, Mexicano 777

Well the greatest rapper of all time, Big Pun (in my opinion) is latin, and we also got the legends like AZ (half latino), Immotal Tech, B-Real... yea I definitely like latin rap

Yehh i know who the latino rappers are...but they spit in english, latin hip hop is in spanish

OK well I don't know any of that lol

Yea Kurious is good too, but I don't think that's what he's talking about. I think he means Spanish rap. But really, if it's not in English, why the hell would I want to listen to it?

I agree. What is the point?

Yes there was an argument about this, because people are to small minded, they think that they know what musicis, but they don't, because they think music is just about understanding the words....

If thats what you think then im afraid you have a lot to learn about music...

:cool:

Alright let's break it down. If I don't understand the emcee, I can at least enjoy the beat right? Okay, makes sense. But then why the fuck have the emcee on the track in the first place? Just take him off so I can hear the beat uninterrupted. Essentially it would be like listening to a beat with a voice tag on it so no one jacks it.

People try to use that argument for shitty crunk music too. Well if the beat is so good, why have Lil Jon screaming on it? It just doesnt work.

And I have my doubts that these latin beats can compete with Premo's or any other American producer's for that matter. I am not being closeminded.

Alright let's break it down. If I don't understand the emcee, I can at least enjoy the beat right? Okay, makes sense. But then why the fuck have the emcee on the track in the first place? Just take him off so I can hear the beat uninterrupted. Essentially it would be like listening to a beat with a voice tag on it so no one jacks it.

People try to use that argument for shitty crunk music too. Well if the beat is so good, why have Lil Jon screaming on it? It just doesnt work.

And I have my doubts that these latin beats can compete with Premo's or any other American producer's for that matter. I am not being closeminded.

That is your preference, it doesn't mean that its bad in general though...

I was listening to A tribe Called Quest before I could even speak English, and its not just about the beats, its a lot more than that.

You can listen to the Emcee's flow with the music, the way he moves with the music and feels the beat, the way his voice sounds to blend with the produccion, which is why the best emcee's have original voices: Guru, Pete Rock, Q-Tip, Vast Aire, Redman, Krs One Just to name a few...

A song is not just composed of lyrics and a beat, it is composed of feelings, thoughts, views and emotions, which is why I don't listen to modern hip hop, because its not about that anymore, its more about making money.

So just because you don't understand the language of the artist, it doesn't mean you can't understand what he's saying.

If you really enjoyed music, I wouldn't have to explain this to you.

If you personally don't like the spanish style of music, thats your personal opinion, but it doesn't mean that its any worse than the predominant language of Hip Hop (American) or that you can't understand it.

Ignorance is Bliss

That is your preference, it doesn't mean that its bad in general though...

I was listening to A tribe Called Quest before I could even speak English, and its not just about the beats, its a lot more than that.

You can listen to the Emcee's flow with the music, the way he moves with the music and feels the beat, the way his voice sounds to blend with the produccion, which is why the best emcee's have original voices: Guru, Pete Rock, Q-Tip, Vast Aire, Redman, Krs One Just to name a few...

A song is not just composed of lyrics and a beat, it is composed of feelings, thoughts, views and emotions, which is why I don't listen to modern hip hop, because its not about that anymore, its more about making money.

So just because you don't understand the language of the artist, it doesn't mean you can't understand what he's saying.

If you really enjoyed music, I wouldn't have to explain this to you.

If you personally don't like the spanish style of music, thats your personal opinion, but it doesn't mean that its any worse than the predominant language of Hip Hop (American) or that you can't understand it.

Ignorance is Bliss

lol,I think spanish is dope ,Ive got cypress hills spanish album which I bought in Spain,its amazin. I also like German hip hop.

Spanish rap is whats up, toteking, las orichas dudes like that i prefer..
French rap is crazy ill too.

That is your preference, it doesn't mean that its bad in general though...

I was listening to A tribe Called Quest before I could even speak English, and its not just about the beats, its a lot more than that.

You can listen to the Emcee's flow with the music, the way he moves with the music and feels the beat, the way his voice sounds to blend with the produccion, which is why the best emcee's have original voices: Guru, Pete Rock, Q-Tip, Vast Aire, Redman, Krs One Just to name a few...

A song is not just composed of lyrics and a beat, it is composed of feelings, thoughts, views and emotions, which is why I don't listen to modern hip hop, because its not about that anymore, its more about making money.

So just because you don't understand the language of the artist, it doesn't mean you can't understand what he's saying.

If you really enjoyed music, I wouldn't have to explain this to you.

If you personally don't like the spanish style of music, thats your personal opinion, but it doesn't mean that its any worse than the predominant language of Hip Hop (American) or that you can't understand it.

Ignorance is Bliss

I agree that the voice is a big part, I'll give you that. But I've heard the flow argument before and it doesn't work for me. The challenge with flow is that you can get across your message effectively (no matter how shallow it is) while maintaining an impressive flow. But if I don't understand the message behind it, the effort is useless.

You could rhyme like this,

"gloobady doo
stubady foo
skippidy loo loo
and coo coo fondu"

All those syllables rhyme with eachother but that means absolutely nothing to me. Just like another language means nothing to me. It's just jibbarish.

I don't condemn you for listening to spanish hip hop cuz you can understand it, and if I could I'd probably like it too. Plus, I think the only reason you listened to Tribe was cuz North America was the only continent really doing this hip hop thing. I already have hip hop here, and that's why I don't look to different countries for it (aside from the UK cuz it's in English).

You can't tell me you understood the complexities of "Verses from the Abstract" or the storytelling of "The Infamous Date Rape" or "8 Million Stories" simply from the emotion in Tip and Phife's voices. And QTip's delivery particularly doesn't vary that much at all between songs. He's always laidback.

The bolded comment is what I really take offense to. And I'm growing to hate the phrase "Ignorance is Bliss". People think that's the comment to end all comments or something.

I agree that the voice is a big part, I'll give you that. But I've heard the flow argument before and it doesn't work for me. The challenge with flow is that you can get across your message effectively (no matter how shallow it is) while maintaining an impressive flow. But if I don't understand the message behind it, the effort is useless.

You could rhyme like this,

"gloobady doo
stubady foo
skippidy loo loo
and coo coo fondu"

All those syllables rhyme with eachother but that means absolutely nothing to me. Just like another language means nothing to me. It's just jibbarish.

I don't condemn you for listening to spanish hip hop cuz you can understand it, and if I could I'd probably like it too. Plus, I think the only reason you listened to Tribe was cuz North America was the only continent really doing this hip hop thing. I already have hip hop here, and that's why I don't look to different countries for it (aside from the UK cuz it's in English).

You can't tell me you understood the complexities of "Verses from the Abstract" or the storytelling of "The Infamous Date Rape" or "8 Million Stories" simply from the emotion in Tip and Phife's voices. And QTip's delivery particularly doesn't vary that much at all between songs. He's always laidback.

The bolded comment is what I really take offense to. And I'm growing to hate the phrase "Ignorance is Bliss". People think that's the comment to end all comments or something.

Ok, fine, but I just found the phrase "I don't understand it so its shit" to be a bit ignorant is all, but I see where your coming from in some areas, and I understand that it would be hard to understand the full meaning behind a lot of songs because of the lyrics.

But im just trying to get at the fact that music is more than just words. Music can be enjoyed by all people, its a language that everyone understands...

Maybe you just haven't heard that song that gives you the chills in your spine without having to listen to the words yet, but im sure you will...

;)

Alright let's break it down. If I don't understand the emcee, I can at least enjoy the beat right? Okay, makes sense. But then why the fuck have the emcee on the track in the first place? Just take him off so I can hear the beat uninterrupted. Essentially it would be like listening to a beat with a voice tag on it so no one jacks it.

People try to use that argument for shitty crunk music too. Well if the beat is so good, why have Lil Jon screaming on it? It just doesnt work.

And I have my doubts that these latin beats can compete with Premo's or any other American producer's for that matter. I am not being closeminded.

Fair enough i hear wat ur sayin, but the fact is that more and more latin rappers are working in close association with the top US producers, i aint just talkin about the reggaeton scene which Jay Z, Diddy, have already jumped on, but latin hip hop. 42 million latin/hispanics in the US, thats 25% of the population...latin hip hop is gona grow more n more. U dont need to understand it fully, u can appriciate the flow and rhyme of an emcee in any language.

In my honest opinion, about foreign hip hop, is it may be good, but why oh why would you want to listen to hip hop you can't understand when there is a fuk of alot of good hip hop out there in English of which no one will ever hear it all. I'd rather spend time and money finding good english spoken hip hop than bother with foreign hip hop. Basicly, there is easily enough (probably too much) hip hop out there to keep me busy, I see it as a waste of time if I can't understand it