this happened a few days ago but i just heard it ...

everytime i hear shit from him he seems as if he wants it to happen ...

http://www.zshare.net/audio/slayjgrandhellrell-ludashirt-mp3.html

I agree with kay slay.Pull rappers out his pocket.Nobody fuckin with east coast.West coast and midwest are better than the south too.

^ I kinda agree with that, east coast if df the best but I think then its south, just cos so much talent comes form there. I ignore all that shit manstream garbage, the south really is on top of West coast and midwest, IMO

Fuck Beef ..

FUCK KAYSLAY for tryin to get on this 'south is ruining hiphop' talk to just promote New York again....'Hiphop started here' 'We are real hiphop' 'We are the Mecca of hiphop' these exact same tired excuses that have been used for almost a decade......Who cares where its from? I personally think New Yorkers take abosolutely too much pride for their region, and have ALWAYS been quick to get mad when somewhere else is blowing up....shit is ignorant and biased.... This is no different from when the West and East was feuding....only thing was, back then east WAS putting out good music....But now you got shit like G-Unit, all these mixtape rappers who aint sayin SHIT on the mic but punchlines, and rhymes about bein this, bein that, constantly wit no substance at all......I understand hating on D4L as they are some trash ass mofo's.... but what the fuck can be done? If you want a better balance of music, get the fuck on.com and start making it, and stop making excuses to just get attn for your fuckin region....and start collabing with other artists outside your region, like what Fat Joe has done with the song with Wayne......what Kay Slay is doing is a fuckin market scheme to get New York selling again, which is some absolute proof that hiphop is a fuckin buisiness, a multi million dolla one at that.....Without marketing, you aint getting sales, and thats fact.........So hate on the mainstream south artists all you want, but just trying to diss them to gain more attn for your coast is just nothing more than a plot to get attn, thats all it is at the end of the day, a deseperate attempt at getting attention....

FUCK KAYSLAY for tryin to get on this 'south is ruining hiphop' talk to just promote New York again....'Hiphop started here' 'We are real hiphop' 'We are the Mecca of hiphop' these exact same tired excuses that have been used for almost a decade......Who cares where its from? I personally think New Yorkers take abosolutely too much pride for their region, and have ALWAYS been quick to get mad when somewhere else is blowing up....shit is ignorant and biased.... This is no different from when the West and East was feuding....only thing was, back then east WAS putting out good music....But now you got shit like G-Unit, all these mixtape rappers who aint sayin SHIT on the mic but punchlines, and rhymes about bein this, bein that, constantly wit no substance at all......I understand hating on D4L as they are some trash ass mofo's.... but what the fuck can be done? If you want a better balance of music, get the fuck on.com and start making it, and stop making excuses to just get attn for your fuckin region....and start collabing with other artists outside your region, like what Fat Joe has done with the song with Wayne......what Kay Slay is doing is a fuckin market scheme to get New York selling again, which is some absolute proof that hiphop is a fuckin buisiness, a multi million dolla one at that.....Without marketing, you aint getting sales, and thats fact.........So hate on the mainstream south artists all you want, but just trying to diss them to gain more attn for your coast is just nothing more than a plot to get attn, thats all it is at the end of the day, a deseperate attempt at getting attention....


MC'ing became a business when that very first dollar was earned off the art. Wack shit doesn't discriminate between regions, it just so happens that wack shit generally stems from the Southern mainstream.

He aimed this shit at Ludacris in another article i read

Luda's finger nail>>>>>>Pap

He don't want beef with the south

Jeezy,Weezy and Luda would bury papoose before he even reached a level

I dont think Papoose will ever be more than a mixtape artist to be serious...

One day NY will learn the south is not to blame for their problems, especially when you got rappers like J-Hood, Styles p, and Saigon, who were sposed to drop but didnt....South aint to blame for them not dropping, thats their fault, and with whatever label/distro problems they ran into

One day NY will learn the south is not to blame for their problems, especially when you got rappers like J-Hood, Styles p, and Saigon, who were sposed to drop but didnt....South aint to blame for them not dropping, thats their fault, and with whatever label/distro problems they ran into


I would just like to know who is buying this Southern mainstream shit? Demographically speaking who buys this horrible shit? No one I know buys it.... UK guys maybe can shine in... do these wack dudes move units in the UK? Shit, I'd pick up just about any UK MC's album before picking up a wack ass Lil Wayne, TI, or Chamillionare album. East, West, even in their lowest state of Hip-Hop put out WAYYYYY better records than the Southern mainstream does. So someone explain to me why trash sells?

^ there are a lot of people in the southern states of america. its a sound they can relate to

^ there are a lot of people in the southern states of america. its a sound they can relate to

This is the only explanation I could come up with as well. I guess inbreds of low intelligence who can't even speak the English language find it easy to relate to each other. LoL

I would just like to know who is buying this Southern mainstream shit?

No shit?

East, West, even in their lowest state of Hip-Hop put out WAYYYYY better records than the Southern mainstream does. So someone explain to me why trash sells?
Because that shit is in high demand, and controlled by the coperation, why else would it sell? And why would you care? Go fuckin listen to what you want, and just stick to what shit you like, but dont give me that garbage about the south and what it has done to NY hiphop, because its not even like that homie.

Shit answer my question, When will NY learn to not blame the south for all its problems, when they cant even put out a full album with artists like Saigon, and Jae Millz? The only reason they blame the south is because the most garbage shit like D4L is getting more play than them, but thats not to say of the entire region itself is putting out the same type of music. Therefore FUCK a Kay-Slay, always getting involved in some regional non-sense.....Just because theres shit like Laffy Taffy means the whole south is to blame for it, when that song was controlled and played everywhere because of the corperate white ppl of America? Most this snap music shit is just corperate shit, nothing more, they found that simple beats and simple lyrics were going to sell, so thats why these Labels is putting this shit out.....NY talks of 'bringing New York back' when THEY themselves need to get THEIR shit together of all ppl....Like ACTUALLY make music and stop dissing the south just to gain attention to their region, and stop worrying about the next man.....The snap music shit is going to die eventually when the market finds out they cannot sell that shit no more, only then, they will have to come up with some other shit to sell on the southern mainstream market.....YES to a degree this shit is ruining it for better southern artists to gain notice, but remember, most of this Mainstream South shit is corperate shit, thats all, nothing else.......

personally i could give a fucc less about new york fallin off
all i kno is im waiting for the saigon album to come out i think hes an ill nigga wit substance and it sposed to be droppin next year
plus hes one of the rappers i auctually enjoyed meeting cuz he was jus a cool ass nigga
im just kno that within the next year JERZEY is gonna start droppin shit
big ups to my nigga serius jones has the illest flow ive ever heard in a freestyle or battle
plus that nigga could write a song hes like the new Royce
its not all of the souths fault wacc shit jus keeps droppin i mean i kno a few southern niggas thas auctually kinda nice ya figga deel wat im sayin??
it jus all depends on wat ppl are demanding to hear
after a while all the gangsta shit gets boring so i guess ppl are tryin to bring bacc the fun in hip hop
another meth and Red album wopuld be perfect now but wat can u do??
SMH

i didn't read all posts so if somebody said this more power to them.

I's funny. What he's saying..A lot of rappers even from new york are still trying to capture that down south sound..So he's on a boat with very few talking this kinda shit.

I know a lot of fools from the south who are more lyrical than 50% of new york right now. THey just ain't blown up.YET

I would just like to know who is buying this Southern mainstream shit? Demographically speaking who buys this horrible shit? No one I know buys it.... UK guys maybe can shine in... do these wack dudes move units in the UK? Shit, I'd pick up just about any UK MC's album before picking up a wack ass Lil Wayne, TI, or Chamillionare album. East, West, even in their lowest state of Hip-Hop put out WAYYYYY better records than the Southern mainstream does. So someone explain to me why trash sells?

Correction...I would take Lil Wayne out ya list...da boi got skill...
And people do need to stop blamin' the south for the death of hip-hop...
Look at it like this....what you hear on the radio is a stem from hip-hop..."entertainment"..."trunk thumpers"...."ridin music"..a.k.a..what is considered bull shyt by true hip-hop headz...etc..
You CANNOT throw some conscience shyt on the radio and expect it to be a hit...niggaz rather listen to that shyt on their own time...
That's jus how it works. I mean Jay-Z has put out some commercial ass shyt, but you know what to expect from his album. Lil Wayne put out some commercial shyt...some entertaining shyt....to lure you into a great album...with decent quality lyrics and shyt. I mean radio is just used as a conduit by most rappers. The truth lies in each artists album. D4L, Crime Mobb, Franchise Boyz, G-Unit, etc...shyt like that...they get money solely from the entertainment aspect of hip-hop..they know they can't rap...so they go wit wat they know and exploit that shyt and naturally they will get more exposure on the radio, make more money, etc....because radio is mainly to entertain....

Bottom line...give every artists a chance...don't base assumptions on ones single. Radio does not portray hip-hop correctly...so you won't find it in it's essence.

This is the only explanation I could come up with as well. I guess inbreds of low intelligence who can't even speak the English language find it easy to relate to each other. LoL

The fuck that suppose to mean?...ignorant shyt yo...you need to shut the fuck up...real talk.

i didn't read all posts so if somebody said this more power to them.

I's funny. What he's saying..A lot of rappers even from new york are still trying to capture that down south sound..So he's on a boat with very few talking this kinda shit.

I know a lot of fools from the south who are more lyrical than 50% of new york right now. THey just ain't blown up.YET

Example..."Rain Dance"......"Ballin"......corporate labels in NY attemptin' to follow the same model as the corporate south has with their "snap music"..and "Poole Palace dancin'". Have you noticed...it took dumb shyt like the "Rain Dance" for NY to even get a buzz going again?....WoW...the corporate mufuckas is killing it...NOT THE SOUTH.

^
For real.

Example..."Rain Dance"......"Ballin"......corporate labels in NY attemptin' to follow the same model as the corporate south has with their "snap music"..and "Poole Palace dancin'". Have you noticed...it took dumb shyt like the "Rain Dance" for NY to even get a buzz going again?....WoW...the corporate mufuckas is killing it...NOT THE SOUTH.

I don't think you understand - wack shit is wack shit. It doesn't matter whether it is a NY MC trying to emulate the South or whether it is someone out of the South. If shit is wack, like "Ballin," then shit is wack.

I'm not saying the South doesn't have any nice MC's. Nice MC's can stem from any part of the world - this isn't the point. My point is that almost all of the non-talented garbage ass MC's are from the South mainstream and they are responsible for the reverse evolution of Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop is supposed to move forward, it isn't supposed to take 5 steps back talking about nonsense on records.

That's all I'm saying... and yes, Lil Wayne is trash, that faggot, I hope he dies.

Ohh yea and another thing, I never said The South is taking away from NY record sales. Record sales in NY took a dive because NY MC's have been putting out a lot of trash in the past few years.

The South must be selling CD's in the South because no self-respecting New Yorker would ever buy a POS Chamillionare CD unless they're half retarded.

Someone upload this for me because link isn't working.

Fuck Slay and hating on tha South they make music they like, since when do you have ta make your music based on what someone who hates you likes?
If anyone is hearing these tracks you are listening to media you know these songs will be on.

south is shit! There are maybe 5 songs from all dirty south artists that I have liked!

^ I kinda agree with that, east coast if df the best but I think then its south, just cos so much talent comes form there. I ignore all that shit manstream garbage, the south really is on top of West coast and midwest, IMO


your fucking dumb the south is no talent they all sound the same all talk about there grills and cars and they have no flow you fuck theres no talent from the south

your fucking dumb the south is no talent they all sound the same all talk about there grills and cars and they have no flow you fuck theres no talent from the south

So he's dumb because he listens to music thats stereotypically centered around grills and cars? nigga its time you open YOUR eyes or some shit, cuz I can name more than 10 south artist you never heard of that actually got talent

There's good artists from all coasts.

SMH @ All these region haters.

Relax, It's just music.

SMH @ All these region haters.

Relax, It's just music.

yup ...............

SMH @ All these region haters.

Relax, It's just music.


I feel you mayne, unno WHY niggas cant seem to understand this

most hip hop is wack, but there is good hip hop everywhere

^^^prime example
http://85.17.103.77/pub/Archive/00492500/00490284.JPEG

not only am i going to pretend like i never knew about this bs, but i'm also gonna go listen to papoose and cry bc he cant control the volume of his voice.

He aimed this shit at Ludacris in another article i read

Luda's finger nail>>>>>>Pap

He don't want beef with the south

Jeezy,Weezy and Luda would bury papoose before he even reached a level
^gay

have you even listened to papoose?


pap would ANIHALATE jeezy. Knock out luda and if he aint got no more steam cassidy could take lil wayne.

I would just like to know who is buying this Southern mainstream shit? Demographically speaking who buys this horrible shit? No one I know buys it.... UK guys maybe can shine in... do these wack dudes move units in the UK? Shit, I'd pick up just about any UK MC's album before picking up a wack ass Lil Wayne, TI, or Chamillionare album. East, West, even in their lowest state of Hip-Hop put out WAYYYYY better records than the Southern mainstream does. So someone explain to me why trash sells?
people are stupid. in a word

thats some stupid shit, its all hip hop, we have some shit on every coast, east, west, mid-west, south, its all tha same thing..its stupid how niggas just spend there time hatin on tha hip hop game..there all ONE BLOOD.

All I have to say is the most hated make it so the south destined to win.

That's all I'm saying... and yes, Lil Wayne is trash, that faggot, I hope he dies.
Lil' Wayne isn't a bad rapper.

His subject matter is one thing, but his lyrical skill is seriously decent. He really does have some good shit hidden away in his albums.

Lil' Wayne isn't a bad rapper.

His subject matter is one thing, but his lyrical skill is seriously decent. He really does have some good shit hidden away in his albums.

Could you please quote some of these lyrically skilled hidden bars for me... Anything clever or somewhat substantial... maybe I'm focusing on the wrong tracks man I dunno...

Peace

Decent Wordplay:

"Been handling the game so long my thumbs bruise"

"Coke transactions on the phone we call them blowjobs"

And some basic ass wordplay:

"I'm lookin like a star bitch when you see me make a wish"

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He's not a bad rapper, he's just not great. I don't see how people can put Lil' Wayne in the same category as D4L and that bullshit.

have you heard the carter two? im guessing not, if you would give it a chance i think you would be pleasantly supprised.

he is one of the few rappers from the south that have actually improved lyrically over the years, id be willing to bet you he is alot of your favorit rappers favorite rapper, lol, do you own any fat joe albums, just as an example,

oh and if you go on youtube, enter rapcity the basement freestyles with little wayne, he does this accapella joint sitting on the couch with the host of the top of the dome, made me a believer, i felt the same way you did for the longest especially when the hot boys first came out,

i know im totally off the subject sorry, i just think people bash little wayne without even listening to the mans album, the lyrics are there, may not have alot of substance but he has a load of tallent,

this was a reply to one of the kids bashing little wayne on the first page, dont remember the name, and yes i fucked up quoting the the sentance i wanted to reply to, sorry, stop hatting on wayne though