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Tw!stEd
11-28-2006, 04:52 PM
^^ Meh

Dillenja escape plan - Come to daddy (awesome cover).

Black Cult
11-28-2006, 05:09 PM
i like slipknot,...if thats what ur talkin abouut

.ScottishHead
11-28-2006, 05:38 PM
Prefuse 73

Tw!stEd
11-28-2006, 06:15 PM
i like slipknot,...if thats what ur talkin abouut
lol this a what are you listening to thread :P

Tw!stEd
11-28-2006, 06:16 PM
Bring me the Horizon - RE: They have no reflections.

Gold.
11-28-2006, 06:50 PM
London Elektricity - Billion Dollar Gravy

Black Cult
11-29-2006, 01:17 AM
slipknot-fuck the world

Brofski
11-30-2006, 11:09 AM
Bit of Bob. Sun is shiniiing, weather is sweeet yeh

ObnoxiousRapper
11-30-2006, 01:29 PM
Depeche Mode - Walking in My Shoes

Tw!stEd
11-30-2006, 02:43 PM
The Blood Brothers - Under Pressure....
Awesome cover :D

Gold.
11-30-2006, 02:55 PM
Adam F - Circles, dopest dnb tune

coolplaya
11-30-2006, 08:03 PM
RATM - Wake up

southpole
11-30-2006, 10:35 PM
Ben Harper - Excuse Me Mr.

Paul Robinson
12-02-2006, 08:28 AM
Frickin Classical Music!

Plug Zero
12-02-2006, 07:02 PM
^ew

how can anybody seriously like that?

Gold.
12-03-2006, 06:12 AM
^ I find I can not even listen to 1 minuite of classical... its so boring, and it just sounds shit

Paul Robinson
12-03-2006, 07:04 AM
Wow. Elevate - Classical music is the best thing a producer/ musician can listen to. How do you think they get the ideas to sample the music into their beats, they listen to the music, realise they're so impressed by it and sample it to show how much they like it and the outcome is usually legendary.

Gold.
12-03-2006, 09:20 AM
^ they usually use Jazz and Soul actually

Paul Robinson
12-03-2006, 09:24 AM
No there isn't a usual style, the dirty south tends to use more jazz and soul.

I can think of quite a few that use classical:

Off the head

Xzibit - Paparazzi
Canibus - 2000 BC
Twista - Overnight celebrity
Mobb Deep - can't remeber the name but track 15 on the infamous
Me - Navras sample from the Matrix!!

Shit there are loads more but can't think right now. But there's a lot of influence too.

Gold.
12-03-2006, 09:28 AM
No there isn't a usual style, the dirty south tends to use more jazz and soul.

I can think of quite a few that use classical:

Off the head

Xzibit - Paparazzi
Canibus - 2000 BC
Twista - Overnight celebrity
Mobb Deep - can't remeber the name but track 15 on the infamous
Me - Navras sample from the Matrix!!

Shit there are loads more but can't think right now. But there's a lot of influence too.

Mobb deep "Have a Party" does NOT have classical sampling. And yeah iknow there are songs with classical samples, but in general they sample Jazz, Soul and Funk i.e. RZA, Primo, Kanye West, Just Blaze...

Paul Robinson
12-03-2006, 09:34 AM
No not 'Have a party'. 'Nothing like home' on Infamy is the one, it's in a classical style.

There isn't one style of music used more. All i know is classical is widely used.

Gold.
12-03-2006, 09:39 AM
^ yea OK granted it can sound good mixed into a hip hop beat... but I hate classical music all the same

Paul Robinson
12-03-2006, 09:40 AM
Fair enough.

Tw!stEd
12-03-2006, 11:45 AM
Thrice - To Awake and Avenge the Dead....

PAX DECEPTICVS
12-04-2006, 03:04 AM
The Zombies - You Make Me Feel Good

Brofski
12-04-2006, 05:23 AM
Rza uses a lot of classical. Off the top of my head..

Triumph and Fatal are 2... Plus he uses it a bit in the film scored he produces

Gold.
12-04-2006, 01:40 PM
Rza uses a lot of classical. Off the top of my head..

Triumph and Fatal are 2... Plus he uses it a bit in the film scored he produces

another classical beat (not Rza) is "When we Ride on Our Enemies" by Tupac, the chorus is a classical influence or sample

Dirty Frank
12-04-2006, 04:52 PM
Bullet In The Head - Rage Against The Machine.

Plug Zero
12-05-2006, 12:52 AM
I reckon that about 90% of samples used in hip hop would be from records classed under funk, soul or jazz. Especially anything from the 90s.

And personally, I think the only music that requires any kind of intensive classical listening would be classical music. That's really the only genre that is really dictated by all these rules about consecutive 5ths and arpeggios and chords and shit. (I took classical piano for about 6 years). To me, the only reason you would ever listen to classical music is if you're some big classical expert dude who loves to just pick a piece of music apart.

So to hear you, Krysis, a hip hop producer, talk about listening to classical music... it just sounds pretentious as all hell to me. And it really gets annoying when I hear hip hop producers talking about studying theory and shit like that. Fuck that. That shit is boring. The true essence of hip hop is throwing shit together, seeing what fits and making a masterpiece.

I should clarify. Good on ya for going to the trouble of studying theory, but I'm no less a producer for choosing not to.

Plug Zero
12-05-2006, 12:55 AM
The Zombies - You Make Me Feel Good

oooh, I like the Zombies

Paul Robinson
12-05-2006, 06:59 AM
I reckon that about 90% of samples used in hip hop would be from records classed under funk, soul or jazz. Especially anything from the 90s.

And personally, I think the only music that requires any kind of intensive classical listening would be classical music. That's really the only genre that is really dictated by all these rules about consecutive 5ths and arpeggios and chords and shit. (I took classical piano for about 6 years). To me, the only reason you would ever listen to classical music is if you're some big classical expert dude who loves to just pick a piece of music apart.

So to hear you, Krysis, a hip hop producer, talk about listening to classical music... it just sounds pretentious as all hell to me. And it really gets annoying when I hear hip hop producers talking about studying theory and shit like that. Fuck that. That shit is boring. The true essence of hip hop is throwing shit together, seeing what fits and making a masterpiece.

I should clarify. Good on ya for going to the trouble of studying theory, but I'm no less a producer for choosing not to.

Where did i talk about studying Classical?

Put simply, you're taking what i'm saying out of context - i know virtually nothing about classical music theory. I enjoy it and i was merely commenting on how many Producers have used it. Sorry but you obviously don't get that it's a bonus if you're a producer and you want to learn an instrument/ music theory (for example) to further your knowledge of the composition aspect of things. You saying 'fuck that' just lumps you in with the other talentless idiots on Soundclick who think they might be the next DJ Premier:confused: Sorry but that's my 2 cents. I throw shit together but i compose 98% of the time.

The 'true essence' of which you speak is the sampling side of things. Any net producer can sample and most do because they can't string a bar together properly, where's the real skill/ musical talent in that. The worlds best producers compose their shit end of. Dj Primo is a DJ more than a Producer and doesn't compare to Scott Storch, Dre. and especially the Neptunes.

Any knowing producer will agree with me.

Gold.
12-05-2006, 02:04 PM
I almost never sample, when I do I use Jazz. listen to my beats (in my sig). all of the ones in there are from scratch, by moi. I'm not sayin I'm great... but I agree that quite alot of talent is being able to make a beat from scratch

Paul Robinson
12-05-2006, 02:20 PM
Certainly is.. I'm not saying i'm better than him because i don't sample. I might be better purely because i'm a better producer?!?!

Gold.
12-05-2006, 05:53 PM
^ yeah exacly.. I prefer Primo to Scott Storch, but I know that Scott Storch is musicaly better

southpole
12-05-2006, 09:36 PM
This shit went way off topic,

Echo And The Bunnymen - The Killing Moon

Brofski
12-06-2006, 03:33 PM
Bon Jovi - Livin On A Prayer

Some retro shit lol

Gold.
12-06-2006, 03:35 PM
Bounty Killer - Eagle And Di Hawk

Plug Zero
12-06-2006, 04:28 PM
I can make a beat from scratch. I much prefer using samples purely for the sound of a gritty, vinyl-laced, sample-based song. That's all. I am surely not one of these net producers you speak of. Point taken though. Sorry I got so angry.

Gold.
12-06-2006, 05:36 PM
^ sampling is a skill too (IF you can do it properly), its just makin a beat from scratch takes a different skill, more musiacally orientated. Sampling is all to do with knowing what goes, scratching it in, fitting it on the drum pattern ect. The internet producers are these fakes that get a vocal sample, raise its pitch by about 100 fuckin tones and add a shitty fruity loops plastic as fuck drum pattern... now thats what I really hate

southpole
12-06-2006, 06:23 PM
Stars - Set Yourself On Fire

Paul Robinson
12-06-2006, 06:31 PM
^ sampling is a skill too (IF you can do it properly), its just makin a beat from scratch takes a different skill, more musiacally orientated. Sampling is all to do with knowing what goes, scratching it in, fitting it on the drum pattern ect. The internet producers are these fakes that get a vocal sample, raise its pitch by about 100 fuckin tones and add a shitty fruity loops plastic as fuck drum pattern... now thats what I really hate

Co-sign. It's like you can tell when a drum pattern has been mapped on Fruity Loops

ult1matum
12-07-2006, 03:28 AM
Scar Tissue- Red Hot Chilli Peppers
probly my fav non rap song right now.

ult1matum
12-07-2006, 03:31 AM
I reckon that about 90% of samples used in hip hop would be from records classed under funk, soul or jazz. Especially anything from the 90s.

And personally, I think the only music that requires any kind of intensive classical listening would be classical music. That's really the only genre that is really dictated by all these rules about consecutive 5ths and arpeggios and chords and shit. (I took classical piano for about 6 years). To me, the only reason you would ever listen to classical music is if you're some big classical expert dude who loves to just pick a piece of music apart.

So to hear you, Krysis, a hip hop producer, talk about listening to classical music... it just sounds pretentious as all hell to me. And it really gets annoying when I hear hip hop producers talking about studying theory and shit like that. Fuck that. That shit is boring. The true essence of hip hop is throwing shit together, seeing what fits and making a masterpiece.

I should clarify. Good on ya for going to the trouble of studying theory, but I'm no less a producer for choosing not to.
I agree exept, hiphop producers don't call the final product a masterpiece they call it a "beat" :dance:

Brofski
12-07-2006, 07:53 AM
Scar Tissue- Red Hot Chilli Peppers
probly my fav non rap song right now.

Yeh, good song.

I often forget about the Chili's... senn em live, they were awesome.. James Brown supported, lmao, he was class

Gold.
12-07-2006, 02:29 PM
Co-sign. It's like you can tell when a drum pattern has been mapped on Fruity Loops

Fruity Loops sucks SO badly... you can't make a good beat, they cheap as fuck. And it seems that no-one who uses it can make a normal hip hop beat, its always snares in the wrong places, bass drums way too fast, or a fuckin dance 4/4 pattern

Dirty Frank
12-07-2006, 05:01 PM
A Boy Named Sue - Johnny Cash

Gold.
12-07-2006, 05:03 PM
Leftfeild - Storm 3000... lol, I think I'm the only person not posting alternative or rock music in here

ult1matum
12-07-2006, 09:39 PM
Yeh, good song.

I often forget about the Chili's... senn em live, they were awesome.. James Brown supported, lmao, he was class
lucky you, tickets cost like $150 for their concert here and they were sold out in like 1 day, I really don't listen to non-rap music much anymore but I still love this song and probably a few more old favourites from the chillis and and such.

YeshuaBenJoseph
12-08-2006, 07:02 AM
... or a fuckin dance 4/4 pattern

find me some hip hop thats not in 4/4

my brightest diamond - bring me the workhorse

Gold.
12-08-2006, 02:19 PM
find me some hip hop thats not in 4/4

my brightest diamond - bring me the workhorse

I mean as in, bass drums on every beat. Like a dance beat, you know regular kick drum. I think almost no real hip hop songs are like that... there are spme, but they're rare

Plug Zero
12-08-2006, 03:46 PM
4/4 just means four beats per bar. Or for laymens, four -headnods- per bar. Nothing to do with the way the drums are set.

cash rules everything around me, cream!

That's one bar, and the beats would be on the bolded syllables. This is generally the places you would tap your foot, nod you head or what have you. There's 4 of 'em.

Gold.
12-08-2006, 03:55 PM
^ yea, true but I mean nothing in between... obviously thats a 4/4 beat, its rare one of those beats in missed out in a beat, but I guess you haven't been much into the dance scene, cos thats what a 4/4 beat is known as. A breakbeat beat or a hip hop beat withh probably have a kick drum or snare/clap at each beat, but also have other kick drums and snares in between

Plug Zero
12-08-2006, 04:00 PM
I'm confused. First you said almost no hip hop beats have a kick on every beat, but now you say they do?

Well, I don't like the breakbeat genre, but I do like breakbeats used in hip hop songs, and those tend to be more swingy and rarely have what you're talking about - a kick on every beat.

Gold.
12-08-2006, 04:08 PM
^ ?? I said not many beats ONLY have a kick on every beat, not that they don't at all. And no, breakbeats in hip hop don't but I don't understand what that has to do with what I'm saying

Plug Zero
12-08-2006, 04:09 PM
Well I was confused so I thought I'd say some random shit. :( It's funny how this thread has turned to hip hop. We need to get rid of this section cuz it's dead.

Gold.
12-08-2006, 05:29 PM
I think it can be pretty useful... no where near as dead as say, my stories or complex friction...

Tw!stEd
12-08-2006, 08:29 PM
DJ Alien - Invasion....

The best dnb song ever...

Gold.
12-09-2006, 04:47 AM
^ ever? I'll give it a listen, upload it?

now... Frisco Kid - Lion Paw

Don Vito
12-09-2006, 01:36 PM
some john legend

Tw!stEd
12-09-2006, 02:27 PM
^ ever? I'll give it a listen, upload it?
In my opinion yes...
Apart from the stupidly long intro (common with awesome dnb) it rules...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VJ6XLGSY

Gold.
12-09-2006, 02:45 PM
^ Nice, I love it. *repped* It starts off as that kind of ambient atmospheric dnb.... Then the tech-step hook comes in, WOW! damn I love that hook, that is dope, and the drums really step in, an amazing tune. I've never even heard of DJ Alien, does he have some other good songs?

Gold.
12-10-2006, 07:49 AM
The Militia - Paranoia (Gridlok remix) . Its from an album called Future Beats 05 (Tw!sted you would love this lol, sick dark techstep jungle)

Tw!stEd
12-10-2006, 01:28 PM
Here's Dj Alien Phazer...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VVNWH7ZF

Theres also a 3rd which I'll upload later....

Gold.
12-10-2006, 01:31 PM
^ aight kool... obviously I can't rep you now but I'll remember I owe you some ;). Song's sick, love this beat not quite as good as the other

Tw!stEd
12-10-2006, 02:10 PM
DJ Alien - The Fight (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FERFYYRQ)

Gold.
12-10-2006, 02:33 PM
^ thanks that ones dope too... I'll be lookin out for DJ alien from now on

Tw!stEd
12-10-2006, 03:34 PM
haha they are the only 3 I've managed to find after years of searching :P

Gold.
12-10-2006, 04:27 PM
^ Is he an actuall DJ or just a producer? Where did you find them, were they on "in the mix" type CD's?

Eddie Talent
12-10-2006, 04:42 PM
Metric

Tw!stEd
12-10-2006, 08:25 PM
Is he an actuall DJ or just a producer? Where did you find them, were they on "in the mix" type CD's?
I'm assuming producer...
apprently canadian...
I found the songs on limewire n have looked around...sounds like he was a former technoish trance producer, who went into techstep...
Ither then that its hard to find stuff...


*EDIT*

BREAKING NEWS

I've found who dj alien is!
http://www.hostileminds.net/
http://www.myspace.com/hostilem

Gold.
12-11-2006, 03:32 AM
^ very nice! sounds dope

Blazе
12-11-2006, 04:27 AM
Kenna - New Sacred Cow

Brofski
12-11-2006, 07:07 AM
Come On Eileen - Dexi's Midnight Runners (?)

It's on the radio by the way.... I don't have it on cd or nothing

Gold.
12-11-2006, 12:29 PM
The Doors - Riders On The Storm

Carrie
12-12-2006, 04:52 PM
I really like Jose Gonzalez!
Live Acoustic set right HERE (http://www.blender.com/video/617/josegonzalezsuggestions.video?src=gp41)
http://www.npr.org/programs/wc/images/2006/01/gonzalez_200.jpg

southpole
12-12-2006, 07:06 PM
I really like Jose Gonzalez!
Live Acoustic set right HERE (http://www.blender.com/video/617/josegonzalezsuggestions.video?src=gp41)
http://www.npr.org/programs/wc/images/2006/01/gonzalez_200.jpg

You should get this then,

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5017/dertsirsir6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Blend of Rappers over Jose's acoustics

PAX DECEPTICVS
12-13-2006, 12:44 AM
The Jimi Hendrix experience - Voodoo Chile

Eddie Talent
12-13-2006, 01:06 AM
2pac........................

Brofski
12-13-2006, 06:19 AM
2pac........................

Yeh, that's alternative as fuck..... Numbnuts

Gold.
12-13-2006, 01:13 PM
The Jimi Hendrix experience - Voodoo Chile

Amazinig song. end of.

Dirty Frank
12-13-2006, 04:57 PM
The Doors - Riders On The Storm

Fucking love it!

I love The Doors, Love Me Two Times is one of my all time favourite songs...

And I'm listening to Sweetest Goodbye by Maroon 5, fucking great song.

Gold.
12-13-2006, 05:12 PM
Fucking love it!

I love The Doors, Love Me Two Times is one of my all time favourite songs...

And I'm listening to Sweetest Goodbye by Maroon 5, fucking great song.

Yea the doors are brilliant, although I'm not usually into the hippie stuff. Their debut is amazing, I have that, Strange Days and L. A. Woman, they are all amazing rock albums

Eddie Talent
12-13-2006, 10:28 PM
ahahh i was only joking..

metric
is sick

Tw!stEd
12-14-2006, 12:21 AM
Machine Head - A nation on Fire...

hctuD
12-14-2006, 06:31 AM
SOAD - Violent Pornography

Tw!stEd
12-14-2006, 07:04 AM
SOAD - Violent Pornography
Cool song.

Avenged Sevenfold - Beast and the Harlot

Brofski
12-14-2006, 07:13 AM
Bob The Builder - Bob The Builder

HoBGoBLiN
12-14-2006, 12:52 PM
George Formby, Blackpools finest

Gold.
12-14-2006, 01:28 PM
Bass-O-Matic - Fascinating Rhythm... Old School!

funk_M
12-15-2006, 06:30 AM
George Formby, Blackpools finest

"when i'm cleaning windas" as the nifty fifties throwback would say.


All i've been listening to recently is my bob dylan play list.....over 200 songs by the muff haired mini-maestro.

Shadowboxin'
12-18-2006, 10:47 PM
Opeth- Master's Apprentices