Everybody got their personal reasons while they believe hiphop is dead, well if they believe hiphop is dead, i blame it on niggas. Its seems like its cool for niggas ( meaning all dude) to listeng to the shit only female use to listen to. In my opinion over the last ten year dudes listen to more club shit than the use to. Dont get me wrong its a time and a place for club music ie the club. im not gonna lie i would rather her some down south shit in the club than Nas or some of the other shit i listen to. However, niggas now cant seem to tell the difference between a club banger and a street banger or hood anthem or what ever you want to call it. At home or in the car it Nas Jada Talib or some shit along those line stright up. But now no its not like that any more. I her more niggas banging that hyphy bullshit than females. I hear more niggas playing lil jon than females. Well at least in my area. I mena niggas look at me crazy when im banging BE, or Black Star, or even when im bqanging DMX old shit. I just dont understand it no more. A groen man tryng to go stupid or walk it out. niggas would have been classified ass faggot niggas for doing that shit when i was coming up. It seem its just cool to metrosexual these day. Niggas walking arond with rinestones belts and shit big ass buckles with theyt name flashing across. Wearing pink hoodies and light yellow and lime green and shit. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

So what do females listen to in your area?

i think white people are to blame. Now im not saying all white people who listen to rap, i mean i listen to rap but the good stuff, i mean white kids who think their cool by playing chains hang low and shit like that.

yeah but they only copy black people so see where it starts!!

It's called: Social Evolution. Fads change, styles change etc. That would explain the bape hoodies, bright colors, and preppy-ness. As for the girl music; niggas will listen to whatever is popular. Niggas have better shit to do then search the internet for good rappers to listen to. The average man doesn't give 2 shits about Hip-Hop, or what a wordplay is. They'll listen to whatever a DJ plays them. That's really the end of it.

that too ^^^

but what im saying is you cant blame the white man because these wigga's just wanna be like a black man so that means there copying

naw not really... think about it when DMX was hot niggas was feeling that nigga. He didnt make club song he really ws one of the niggas who brought the game back from that shiny suit shit... Bitches didnt like that nigga like that, well not where im from they didnt. It aint about fads, there always been prepy niggas but now the average nigga is starting to go pop... and i live in the watts/compton area of LA county so i live in basically the most hood part of cali. i go to school in a majority white area... and it majority white niggas that im in school with and they are up on hip hop more than black niggas , so it aint about race. Hiphop in general aint about race. NIggas are just on some hoe shit righht now.

Sowhat if Hip-Hop isn't the same get the fuck over it. If it means that much to you and you love it.

Then why don't you come up with the syrum to bring it back to life//
Like get the drum machine, yamahaa, and the mic//

It's called: Social Evolution. Fads change, styles change etc. That would explain the bape hoodies, bright colors, and preppy-ness. As for the girl music; niggas will listen to whatever is popular. Niggas have better shit to do then search the internet for good rappers to listen to. The average man doesn't give 2 shits about Hip-Hop, or what a wordplay is. They'll listen to whatever a DJ plays them. That's really the end of it.

So you are implying that Hip-Hop has evolved into pubescent lyracism? I see the current trend as more of a devolving of rap music as opposed to social evolution... the level of lyrics today parallel those of The Sugar Hill Gang. No disrespect to them, we're ass backwards with these wack ass so-called MC's.

^^^ agreed

Sowhat if Hip-Hop isn't the same get the fuck over it. If it means that much to you and you love it.

Then why don't you come up with the syrum to bring it back to life//
Like get the drum machine, yamahaa, and the mic//

you must own pink clothing

i go to school in a majority white area... and it majority white niggas that im in school with and they are up on hip hop more than black niggas , so it aint about race. Hiphop in general aint about race. NIggas are just on some hoe shit righht now.


Real talk.

Real talk mayne, real talk

shit ur post was too long, break it down

ummm no... to long... not a big reader i see

nah, just your shit's bunched together and like it'd be better to seperate into paragraphs or something...

nope im strighty nobady else seem to have a problem.. and why would i seperate one paragrapgh into many...thats stupid

seperates points

its only one point.... one subject one para... man this shit stupid... you could have read the post by now

well anyway i read it now( i got some free time)
and i agree... but i dont get how that ties to blamin niggas

Dont forget Bap clothing or whatever that gay sweater shit is

niggas are the one who always banged the street shit or the consious shit or what ever.... i mean of course there allways been division in rap but certain genra of rap where allways the most respected and most listen and most bought... and that was mainly because niggas where trhe ones cultivating the shit and listening.

Therefore Niggas (or men, male or what ever....) where the ones controlling who ran shit in hiphop... niggas controlld the shit... now niggas listen to the same shit females do... Im mean think about it... when i was growing up the club shit was still there... like Luke...bitches went crazy when a luke song came on... an niggas went crazy when song like "i just wanna fuck you" or "gin an juice" or some hood shit like that... Now niggas supporting all that club music shit... THerefor more rappers are doing that bullshit... THe south aint killed nothing because there was always niggas in the south bangin to me... the south didnt just rise from the dirt.... Outcast been there... scarface been there.... ugk been there.... it all this other shit that being filtered in because niggas dont control the shit no more... cause niggas are following the females now... We all so worried about hoe shaking there ass and shit and less worried about real shit

Thats why real hiphop aint on BET an the radios no more... cause Females run rap now.. nad niggas are just following there ass... literally and other wise

its cause those niggas dont listen to lyrics, they listen to whatever helps them get pussy

um, i think it's really immature to blame the slump that hiphop is, on a certain ethnicity group

it's just all business, people see that they can sway "common" people banging out crap music, they'll do that, i mean, lil jon has success, why would he change his recipe? it's for the money

and people that think listening to classic hiphop is whack, it's them that's fucked up , so who cares about them

whos blaming it on a certain ethnic group... when i sa yniggas im talking about dudes in general... read the post next time....

yeh niggas refers to homies, dudes not the derogatory(sp?) term with ER ending

Though I agree that a lot of aspects of hip hop turned fag, I don't think that females now run it, cause how come would females like songs with (e.g.) verses of some now allegedly popular southern rappers are based on the verse: ''We gotta bunch of bitches''

NO, i know what you mean, someone else blamed it on white people etc

rappers just bang that club shit cause it makes more money most of them dont give a fuck about waht there rapping about as long as they get paid. why do u think akon sold more than the blue carpet treatment. they just to what they can to get paid

Though I agree that a lot of aspects of hip hop turned fag, I don't think that females now run it, cause how come would females like songs with (e.g.) verses of some now allegedly popular southern rappers are based on the verse: ''We gotta bunch of bitches''

you no something i no more females that like too short than niggas and i have never heard a too short song where he doesnt refer to a female ass a bitch... im not saying females run the buisness side of it cause they dont... shit rappers dont even run the buisness side of it. im saying the music that females historicaly listen is now the music that everbody is doing ie club music.

I dont know how many people on hear heard Of Uncle Luke let alone heard any of his songs.. but i remember growing up he had this song. "pop that Pussy" and ever time that song came on all the females went crazy. So I really dont think the vulgarity of rap music bothers femals ass much ass people think; also, as i remember, i never heard of Luke cd out selling street shit back in the day. I was Club music and that where you heard it at, at club and at parties it didnt dominate the radio stations or the video stations like party music does no. Every time i turn to BET Walk it out is on.

Hip Hop hasn't gone anywhere. I'm sick of hearing about that. It's just harder to find.

I mean there's been alot of nice albums this year (Fishscale, Game Theory, Hell Hath No Fury, HHID, etc.). Sure there's been some wack ones too, but whose making you listen to that? Hip Hop hasn't died, there's just more of it, so just trim the fat off.

I agree about niggas going fag man...
Niggas dont wanna hear real nigga shit no more..they wanna dance and bug out but i mean real hood niggas bump that real hood shit still. its just more shit that females like so niggas like it..shit niggas forgot bout spitting game they just wanna show off and get women cuz thas what communities have come too...

^ There are nice albums but thier SLEPT on, and wayne, jeezy, scrappy, camron, dipset, jim jones, juelz, baby, joc, jibbs, are selling. WHY? Cause hip hop is dead

nah the reason why they aint selling is because people dont hear about them. Most of the people that listen to hip hop listen to what dj's play on the radio and shit. And untull dj's start playing "real" hip hop than it aint gonna sell. I mean MOST people on here listen to "real" hip hop but thats because most of us are big hip hop fans not the like how it sounds shit. But most people that listen to rap only listen to what they hear about on mtv or bet or the radio and shit. At least thats my opion.

Ps. Please dont bash me over what i say they are my thoughts and i am not into intrenet "beef". If you want "beef" come see. Thats all for now have a great day.

^^^lol..... yeah thats true

nah the reason why they aint selling is because people dont hear about them. Most of the people that listen to hip hop listen to what dj's play on the radio and shit. And untull dj's start playing "real" hip hop than it aint gonna sell. I mean MOST people on here listen to "real" hip hop but thats because most of us are big hip hop fans not the like how it sounds shit. But most people that listen to rap only listen to what they hear about on mtv or bet or the radio and shit. At least thats my opion.

Ps. Please dont bash me over what i say they are my thoughts and i am not into intrenet "beef". If you want "beef" come see. Thats all for now have a great day.

in other words, thier slept on

i got a question in the days of KRS-ONE, big daddy kane, slick rick and the rest of em, was their music played on the radio alot, or something that indicated 'mainstream'??

i dont even know if it was a "mainstream"

nah, i don't think so, was the beggining of the recognizition of hip hop...

Nah it wasnt played on the radio alot back then but then again no hip hop was played on the radio it was just the beggininh

Nah it wasnt played on the radio alot back then but then again no hip hop was played on the radio it was just the beggininh

No hip hop has ever been played on the mainstream radio,only rap.
Rap and hip hop became two different movements around 1990,the media,radio refused to call it hip hop.

But shouldnt the radio call it hip hop because the only things they play is party music and things with good beats.

But shouldnt the radio call it hip hop because the only things they play is party music and things with good beats.

nah,coz it doesnt sound hip hop,sounds like pop music with rapping on it.

pop rap... yessir... fabolous

lol yeah. but whats yall defnatation of hip hop and defination of rap.
Everybody has there own defination

lol yeah. but whats yall defnatation of hip hop and defination of rap.
Everybody has there own defination

Hip hop is the new funk or soul which is in touch with the 4 elements.

Rap came from gangsta rap,because they were rapping "gangsta" and it became popular in the mainstream(eg NWA) so the mainstream took it as Rap.

While this was happening people like Kool g rap,KRS,rakim,tribe,de la,wu tang etc were making hip hop,sticking to creativity and not getting caught up with gimmicks and lables.

Dont get it fucked up though,not all hip hop is good and not all rap is bad.

Rap is an occupation some shit ppl do to make money. Rap is controlled by beats. Hip hop is a lifestyle. Lyricism is hip hop when you create a rhyme that makes somebody stop and go OH SHIT and sit and just think about it thats hip hop. It involves music artists not rappers.
Rappers: D4L, Tyrese
Hip Hop artists: Nas, Wutang clan, Eric B. and Rakim
Kool Herc started hip hop money started rap.

i meant to say rap is controlled by women and money i dont know why it says rap is controlled by beats

Yes, I FEEL you Ender, you are the truth,bro, I can tell you know your hiphop.