View Full Version : Top 10 Innovators in the last Decade


adinkent
03-09-2007, 03:56 PM
Post 10 names of individuals or groups that have innovated hiphop in the last 10 years.

I am thinking (no order)....

Mos Def
Common
The Roots
Outkast
Madlib
MF Doom
Jehst
Eminem
Dj Cam
Immortal Technique

Ama-gi
03-09-2007, 03:58 PM
Black Star
The Roots
El-P (due to him opening the door for all the indi def jux artists)
Common
Eminem
OutKast
J. Dilla
Madlib
...can't think of much more that have had such an effect on Hip-Hop.

...AKeliz...
03-09-2007, 04:38 PM
Jay-Z too....I dont give a fuck, he always brings a new sound to the game.....

Hayzoos
03-09-2007, 05:41 PM
Dipset is a big one IMO

there are soo many kids out there who mimic their style exactly, down to the way they flow and formulate their "rhymes" to the beats, which i think is pretty sad cause all it does is produce the wackest music

another one is Lil Jon for really comercialising the whole crunk phenomenon which obviously sparked a million copies

Laking 86er
03-09-2007, 05:56 PM
Tech N9ne

Ama-gi
03-09-2007, 07:58 PM
Jay-Z too....I dont give a fuck, he always brings a new sound to the game.....

forgot bout him.

mic-illatp2!!
03-09-2007, 08:03 PM
yall are 4 getting about david banner , master p, tr-8, beats by the pound, mannie fresh, mac dre, not just sum over sea rappers all the time, there are sum usa rappers doing it big!!!

Alan Johnson
03-09-2007, 08:06 PM
^ LOL mannie fresh, david banner.... wow!

Hayzoos
03-09-2007, 08:07 PM
^ how can Mac Dre be "doing it big" when hes dead?

EDIT: @ mc-illatp

mic-illatp2!!
03-09-2007, 08:11 PM
mac dre invented spinna shades and the hyphy movement, 4 that he started alot good things for the game of hip hop, david banner made at least 250 albums down south 4 artist, sum are more known than others.. mannie fresh for making dope beats with cash money and moving the south sound to main stream hip hop

Alan Johnson
03-09-2007, 08:14 PM
^ we're talking about innovations that count

mic-illatp2!!
03-09-2007, 08:18 PM
they do count without david banner you would have never heard of lil flip , T.I. and manny others

Alan Johnson
03-09-2007, 08:20 PM
^ Not like thier dope anyway...

Stunna shades? In top 10 innnovations? LAST DECADE???

Should we crown the guy who's ghostridin' the whip?!!? or who's "BALLLIN"

Juice.
03-09-2007, 08:25 PM
Rakim kills this. He damn near invented lyrical skill.

Edit @ 'Last Decade': I'll come up with an answer in a minute.

Ama-gi
03-09-2007, 08:28 PM
^ we're talking about innovations that count

David Banner is dope...

Conz
03-09-2007, 08:30 PM
Definitely El-P, dude brings one of the most unique production styles ever

Bone24
03-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Mos Def

Vinnie Paz

Common

Pharoahe Monch

Tech N9ne

Bone Thugs N Harmony

Talib Kweli

Mr. Lif

El-P

Outkast

Young Droop



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.ScottishHead
03-09-2007, 09:39 PM
Dont think some people in this thread even know what innovation is.

Ama-gi
03-09-2007, 09:41 PM
Dont think some people in this thread even know what innovation is.

LOL...man I swear I was bout to post the same exact shit.

Conz
03-09-2007, 09:43 PM
Innovation is basically starting a new trend or expanding upon something to improve it

there everybody knows now, if i'm wrong i'm gonna feel like an asshole lol

Plug Zero
03-09-2007, 09:48 PM
Madlib & Dilla
The Roots
Beastie Boys (listen to Check Your Head and you'll hear why)
Prince Paul (kick started the sampladelic era)
Kool Keith
Doom
Neptunes/NERD

...that's only 7. Ah well. Innovation's not always a good thing.

Alan Johnson
03-09-2007, 10:05 PM
^ Great list!

Bone24
03-09-2007, 10:24 PM
Mos Def - Obvious reasons

Vinnie Paz - Shockingly violent but knowledgable lyrics

Common - Obvious reasons

Pharoahe Monch - never before heard flow with conscious lyrics

Tech N9ne - Obvious reasons

Bone Thugs N Harmony - Obvious reasons

Talib Kweli - He's one of a kind

Mr. Lif - futuristic beats with politically consious lyrics

El-P - beats that have never been done before

Outkast - Obvious reasons

Young Droop - never before heard quick flow with Papoose style lyrics



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Alan Johnson
03-09-2007, 10:29 PM
Hmm never heard of Young Droop

.ScottishHead
03-09-2007, 11:19 PM
Mos Def - Yes

Vinnie Paz - Yes

Common - Yes

Pharoahe Monch - Maybe

Tech N9ne - No

Bone Thugs N Harmony - Yes

Talib Kweli - Yes

Mr. Lif - No

El-P - Yes

Outkast - Yes

Young Droop - No

Bone24
03-09-2007, 11:37 PM
Mos Def - Yes

Vinnie Paz - Yes

Common - Yes

Pharoahe Monch - Maybe

Tech N9ne - No

Bone Thugs N Harmony - Yes

Talib Kweli - Yes

Mr. Lif - No

El-P - Yes

Outkast - Yes

Young Droop - No

Tech N9ne, No? Listen to Come Gangster or My World.

Young Droop, No? Listen to Lust to Pull the Trigga, Final Konflict, Killa Instincts etc. You've never heard a flow like this. Hence the word innovative.

Innovate is to introduce something new.


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.ScottishHead
03-09-2007, 11:39 PM
Tech N9ne, No? Listen to Come Gangster or My World.

Young Droop, No? Listen to Lust to Pull the Trigga, Final Konflict, Killa Instincts etc. You've never heard a flow like this. Hence the word innovative.

Innovate is to introduce something new.


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Not to just intoduce somethin new,its to influence others,groundbreaking music.

Who has young droop influenced that is an ill MC,what groundbreaking music has he had?

Laking 86er
03-09-2007, 11:40 PM
Lol, Tech N9ne is the only one i posted Scottish, why you gotta be hatin! Lol, I'm just kiddin. I thought his style was pretty innovative, not inventive...but could you please explain to me why you think that, as you have a wayyyyyyyy more vast knowlege of hiphop than me. Just curious that all... I need faster net to dl all this shit you guys talk about, so I can keep up. Anyways, I'm off to a party, and I'm looking forward to your response tomorrow :D peace

Laking 86er
03-09-2007, 11:41 PM
Shit, guess that was posted while I was typing.


He hasn't really been around long enough, or gotten big enough to influence I guess, but I still think he was innovative.

Bone24
03-09-2007, 11:44 PM
Who cares who influenced who? I think that if someone can come up with a style that no one has been able to replicate, that deserves more props.


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Gory Days
03-09-2007, 11:45 PM
Necro, he invented the death rap jejeje...

.ScottishHead
03-09-2007, 11:45 PM
Who cares who influenced who? I think that if someone can come up with a style that no one has been able to replicate, that deserves more props.


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No,def not innovative.

Alan Johnson
03-10-2007, 12:06 AM
@ bone ^ Ill rap, with microsoft SAM!!!!! how's that for innovation! Speed up the tempo and its all good!

Hayzoos
03-10-2007, 12:09 AM
^ that's ICU's homie

Conz
03-10-2007, 12:12 AM
ICU- innovation of taking the word wigger to a whole new level

Bone24
03-10-2007, 12:14 AM
@ bone ^ Ill rap, with microsoft SAM!!!!! how's that for innovation! Speed up the tempo and its all good!

First of all, I'm talking about innovation with the artists own voice, not a computer generated like Ifle 65.

I'm talkin about artists like Bone Thugs for example. They made the song "The Crossroads" and a lot of their songs follow that formula and style, meaning the harmonic speed rapping/singing. No one has actually replicated that style, or at least successfully.



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.ScottishHead
03-10-2007, 12:19 AM
First of all, I'm talking about innovation with the artists own voice, not a computer generated like Ifle 65.

I'm talkin about artists like Bone Thugs for example. They made the song "The Crossroads" and a lot of their songs follow that formula and style, meaning the harmonic speed rapping/singing. No one has actually replicated that style, or at least successfully.



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Thats why I said they were innoavtive but young droop,no way.

Bone24
03-10-2007, 03:11 AM
Thats why I said they were innoavtive but young droop,no way.

I've yet to hear a flow like his. I mean Twista and No Clue spit fast, but they have the same style. Young Droop kicks a nasty flow. He enunciates each word precisely giving it a choppy sound, but he has a quick flow and a deep voice, and the end result is a sick and original delivery.


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Gold.
03-10-2007, 04:26 AM
Public Enemy
Rakim
Notorious B.I.G
Kool G Rap
El-P
Afrika Bambaataa
Outkast
Grandmaster Flash
Ice Cube
Wu-Tang Clan

adinkent
03-10-2007, 07:01 AM
Post 10 names of individuals or groups that have innovated hiphop in the last 10 years.

I am thinking (no order)....

Mos Def
Common
The Roots
Outkast
Madlib
MF Doom
Jehst
Eminem
Dj Cam
Immortal Technique

Just explaining the people that no one else mentioned....

MF Doom: His whole flow, he is like a motionless ryhming machine.
Jehst: First UK rapper I have heard with real clever rhymes, I mean v clever.
Dj Cam: Good French Dj producing experimental jazzy hip hop, great crate digger, when my ass is worthy (reps), I will upload some of his stuff on this site
IT: Saying what he thinks without comprimise.

There are a number of artist that maybe worth a mention that cross genre a little?

Hayzoos
03-10-2007, 09:32 PM
Public Enemy
Rakim
Notorious B.I.G
Kool G Rap
El-P
Afrika Bambaataa
Outkast
Grandmaster Flash
Ice Cube
Wu-Tang Clan


its supposed to be in the last decade though