Jay-z is not Top 10- CLASSIC ALBUM-WISE: according to many ppl on RW, that is.

According to x-nine's "What are 10 albums you think EVERY hiphop fan should have?" thread:


4/21 of you mofo's have included a jay-z album (3 reasonable doubt, 1 blueprint) as your top 10 albums.

whereas Nas's albums were mentioned 17 times (illmatic 15, stillmatic 1, it was written 1)

Wutang 16 times (that's not including their solo ish)

and i didnt bother counting the rest (which includes pac, big, pun, big L, ra, g rap, krs-1, nwa, snoop, icecube, az, dre, tribe, common, mos, outcast, gza, etc to name a few popular ones on the list) but u get the point..

what's your thoughts??


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From x-nine's thread:

x-nine
1. Common - Ressurection
2. Blackmoon - Enta Da Stage
3. Styles P - Gangster & A Gentleman
4. DMX - Its Dark And Hell Is Hot
5. J-Dilla - Donuts
6. UGK - Ridin Dirty
7. DJ Quik - Safe + Sound
8. Scarface - The Diary
9. Nas - Illmatic
10. Trae - Restless

xSmh
Nas - Illmatic
Wutang - 36 Chambers
Raekwon - OB4CL
Eric B and Rakim - Paid in Full
Jedi Mind Tricks - Violant By Design
Big Pun - Capital Punishment
Big L - Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous
Outkast - ATLiens
Eminem - MMLP
Nas - It Was Written
AZ - Doe Or Die

Swordsman
Pete Rock - Soul Survivor
Slum Village - Fantastic, Vol. 2
Reflection Eternal - Train Of Thought
Black Star - Black Star
Non Phixion - The Future Is Now
Main Source - Breaking Atoms
Kool G Rap - Roots Of Evil
Jurassic 5 - Power In Numbers
Kenn Starr - Starr Status
Common - Be

Scrilla
Run DMC - Run DMC
Nas - Illmatic
Wutang - 36 Chambers
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Big L - Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton
Too Short - Born To Mack
Outkast - Aquemini

Hayzoos
36 Chambers
Midnight Marauders
Criminal Minded
Paid In Full
The Cold Vein
Enta Da Stage
The Score
****Blueprint (assuming this is Jay-z's album)
Death Certificate
Fear of A Black Planet
Illadpelph Halflife
Ready To Die

Cogline
The Chronic
People's Instinctive Travels and Paths of Rhythm
The Slim Shady Lp
All Eyez On Me
The Cold Vein
The Score
Doggystyle

naspac
illmatic
criminal minded
paid in full
doe or die
the chronic
People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
Enter the Wu Tang 36 Chambers
Lifestylez ov da Poor & Dangerous
masters of the universe
Mecca and the Soul Brother

Overskill
Nas - Illmatic
Wu Tang - 36 Chambers
JMT - Violent By Design
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Big Pun - Capital Punishment
AZ - AWOL
2pac - All Eyez on Me
Ras Kass - Soul On Ice
Non Phixion - The Future is Now
***Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt

ai002h
1.Paid In Full
2.It Take a Nation of Millions
3.Straight Outta Compton
4.Death Certificate
5.Illmatic
6.The Infamous
7.The Chronic
8.Ready to Die
9.36 Chambers
10.Sex and Violence

Massgyoza
Amerikkkas most wanted
Live and Let die
masters of the universe
dah shinin
violent by design

propro
Illmatic- NAS
Enter the 36 chambers- Wu Tang
All Eyez on me- 2pac (its not on my top 10 but imo its a must hear album has classics)
Makaveli: 7 day theory: 2pac
Stillmatic- Nas
Ready to die- Notorious Big
Black Star- Talib kweli and mos def
Reasonable doubt- Jay Z
Slim Shady lp- Eminem

Ghostfacedre
All Eyez On Me
Illmatic
***Reasonable Doubt
The Chronic
Capital Punishment
Marshall Mathers LP
Enter The 36th Chamber
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
The College Dropout
Straight Outta Compton

rumpledigdin
1 nwa and the posse
2 36 chambers
3 strictly bussines
4 chronic
5 it takes a nation of million
6 license to ill
7 tougher than leather
8 people,instincts....whatever whatever(you know what i mean)
9 lyte as a rock
10 NOW 10

Papoose rebirth
36 Chambers
Illmatic
OB4CL
Doggystyle
Chronic
Ready To Die
College Dropout
Amerikkas most wanted
Lifestyles ov da poor & dangerous

Tom B
36 chamber - Wu
liquid swords - GZA
Ready to die - BIG
Illmatic - Nas
It was written - Nas
Capitol punishment - Pun
Hard to earn - Gangstarr
Violent by design - JMT
4, 5, 6 - KGR
Internal Affairs - Monch

Elementary
illmatic
36 chambers
paid in full
criminal minded
it takes a nation of millions to hold us back
east 1999
liquid swords
The chronic
lifestylez of the poor & dangerous
low end theory

(senci's list not included since he did not list album)

adinkent
Illmatic
Blackstar
Black on both sides (mos def)
Criminal minded
Paid in Full
Be
Midnight Maraurders
Moment of truth (gangstarr)
Soundpieces, the anidote (lootpack)
Things fall apart (the roots)

concience
Illmatic- Nas
***Reasonable Doubt- Jay-Z
Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers- Wu-Tang Clan
The Chronic- Dr. Dre
The Infamous- Mobb Deep

katch
Illmatic
36 Chambers
Midnight Marauders
Paid In Full
Chronic
Violent By Design
Illadelph Halflife
Criminal Minded
KRS-ONE
Dare Iz A Darkside

mistah dobolina
3:16 The 9th Edition
36 Chambers
Violent By Design
Doe or Die
Criminal Minded
It Takes A Nation....
Illadelph Halflife
Aquemini
Liquid Swords
Enta Da Stage

Multiplexed
All Eyez On Me
Be
Slim Shady LP
Illmatic
Revolutionary, Vol 2.
36 Chambers
The Chronic
Visions of Gandhi
Here To Save You All
Black Star

i don't find jay-z's albums to be in the top 10 that every fan should have, it's simple as that. maybe if they had asked for more than 10 it would be on more lists.

the fact that u went to all this trouble just to prove a point clearly shows that u have Hov on ur mind 24/7.........BONG

None of Jay's albums are in my top 10.

Those albums werent their top 10s anyway, its essential albums.

10 is a small number i bet if it was 20 u would of got a better response but come on, is any album even reasonable doubt a must have top ten?

nickel..i was just curious what yall thought that's all..
esp with the question
nas vs jay z who's better etc etc

it's an interesting fact, still

i was just curious what yall thought that's all..
esp with the question
nas vs jay z who's better etc etc

Don't get into a nas vs jay debate, it's ZZZZZZZZ.

jay-z isnt even close to nas anymore lol he fell off big time.

kingdom come is such garbage.

damn I totally forgot Illmatic on my list

but anyways I dont really like Jay

lol scottish there's no debate for me..
i'm pretty much a nas stan since '99

^^^no disrespect to u homie...i was jus sayin....

^no doubt no doubt..
so is jay top 10 in your books ?

A rapper can't be GOAT when he bites so much,
and not enough classic albums.

Don't get into a nas vs jay debate, it's ZZZZZZZZ.
Nas vs. Jay-Z UGHH Debates are the best.

Nas vs. Jay-Z UGHH Debates are the best.

lmao, thats exactly what I was thinkin too.

Used to be 5 threads a day on that shit.

Wouldnt put Reasonable Doubt in the top 10.
infact in some ways i think vol. 2...hard knock life is more of a classic in terms of sound.

Jay is most def in my top 10 and reasonable doubt is def in my top 10 fav albums of all time!!

He's Top10 imo.

What the hell? What is the point of this?

^ That majority of rapworlds doesn't think jayz is top 10 material

^ That majority of rapworlds doesn't think jayz is top 10 material

Fuck rapworlds!!

^ That majority of rapworlds doesn't think jayz is top 10 material


"Stop following me"

You are a fuckin queer.

^ =)) "stop following me"

i don't think Jay is top 10 ... he's nice lyrically, has one of the nicest flows and so on but he aint in my top 10 ... maybe somewhere in my top 20 but not my 10 ...

alot of people have rappers like Pac & Jay in their top 10 for impact & what they've achieved in hip-hop but that doesn't mean shit to me ... Diddy achieved so much but he aint in anyones top 10 ...

i don't think Jay is top 10 ... he's nice lyrically, has one of the nicest flows and so on but he aint in my top 10 ... maybe somewhere in my top 20 but not my 10 ...

alot of people have rappers like Pac & Jay in their top 10 for impact & what they've achieved in hip-hop but that doesn't mean shit to me ... Diddy achieved so much but he aint in anyones top 10 ...

Agreed 110%, well said. Alot of people live under that misconception IMO.

Jay is top ten material.....he may not have a top 10 album, but his overall discography puts a lot of rappers to shame....for that reason he barely makes my top 10....

Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt album is definitely a classic - I acknowledge this - everything else he put out is pure trash - he's lucky he made my top 50 - piece of shit biter.

Jay is top ten material.....he may not have a top 10 album, but his overall discography puts a lot of rappers to shame....for that reason he barely makes my top 10....

What part of Queens are you from?

What part of Queens are you from?


Ozone Park

Diddy achieved so much but he aint in anyones top 10 ...


All Puff did was get rich and famous with ZERO talent and good business skills...I wouldn't really call his career full of achievements...he hasn't done anything good since the Shyne album.

^no doubt no doubt..
so is jay top 10 in your books ?

He is The G.O.A.T. in my books.........

The Goat? above all else?

how can you not think that reasonable doubt isnt a top 10 album? cant knock the hustle, brooklyns finest, dead presidents, and mad other dope songs add up to a classic album in my book.

nae jayz shit really aint top ten if you put it against other artist shit. That why i say the nigga cant even be considered the best rapper... some niggas still believe that he is

Man I don't know why Jay aint in their lists but to me Reasonable Doubt is a classic just like Illmatic... And they aint even got PAC up there, but anyway its their list not mine....

^ You act as if Everyone has to have those 2 in top 10's or they are wrong.

^unfortunately many seem to agree

I'm a bit of a Jay hater I'm afraid, I think hes seriously overrated, I just cant get into his music.

neither nas nor jay are the greatest of all time for me. Nas is slightly better but I don't think it's an obvious choice. it seems to me that people more into mainstream tend to choose jay and more underground people tend to choose nas

^yeah I've noticed that too, to be honest I think its hard to say one rapper is greater than every other rapper. I think if I had to choose one I'd probably choose Nas

I have a list of maybe 20 GOAT contenders... I too can't chose a single one!

I'm not sure if Jay-Z would still have a place in my top 3. I think he may have been pushed out by MF DOOM. Although, if you would've asked me a year ago, I probably woulda said Jay-Z is the G.O.A.T.

^ Is blueprint still your favorite album of all time

I have a list of maybe 20 GOAT contenders... I too can't chose a single one!

is Royce one of those contenders ?

is Royce one of those contenders ?


I bet Saigon is, even though he doesn't even have an album.

Yes(royce), saigon hasn't had that much material but so far he's released 1 classic street album, and dope mixtapes!!!
It might be 20-30 contenders even...
All of you underrate them.

And yes I own saigons album...

Royce is top 20 easily and Saigon definately has the potential to be.....

Yes(royce), saigon hasn't had that much material but so far he's released 1 classic street album, and dope mixtapes!!!
It might be 20-30 contenders even...
All of you underrate them.

And yes I own saigons album...

i don't think so, most people on here including myself all know how nice they are ...

^ im mainly talking about people underrating saigon... most are like "he's ok"

i'm a fan of royce.. death is certain is my shit.
blueprint is one of my fav jay albums too.